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Why was the sacrifice of Cain not accepted by YHWH
Posted : 28 Aug, 2019 02:58 PM
Hello everyone.
Most people either believe or have been told that Cains sacrifice wasn't accepted because it was without blood.
Actually when we look at the Word of GOD Almighty we find that it was in that was not accepted; because Cain was not accepted by YHWH, his sacrifice also was not accepted.
Genesis 4 verses 1 - 7
Cain and Abel
1 Now the man had relations with his wife Eve, and she conceived and gave birth to Cain, and she said, "I have gotten a manchild with [the help of] the LORD."
2 Again, she gave birth to his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of flocks, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
3 So it came about in the course of time that Cain brought an offering to the LORD of the fruit of the ground. 4 Abel, on his part also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of their fat portions. And the LORD had regard for Abel and for his offering;
5 but for Cain and for his offering He had no regard. So Cain became very angry and his countenance fell.
6 Then the LORD said to Cain, "Why are you angry? And why has your countenance fallen?
7 "If you do well, will not [your countenance] be lifted up?
Why was the sacrifice of Cain not accepted by YHWH
Posted : 28 Aug, 2019 09:32 PM
In my last post I only quoted God's Word!!! While Grace believes that all translations of God's Word have many serious errors!!
I Peter 1:23-25: You have been **BORN AGAIN THROUGH THE LIVING AND ENDURING **WORD OF GOD**!! All men are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field, the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the **WORD OF THE LORD STANDS FOREVER**. And this is the **WORD** that was preached to you.
Matthew 24:35: Jesus says, Heaven and earth will pass away, but **MY WORDS WILL NEVER PASS AWAY**!"
2 Timothy 3:15,16: 4:1,2: You have known the **HOLY SCRIPTURES**, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. **ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD**!! {**WHICH IS THE ENTIRE NEW COVENANT AND NEW TESTAMENT**!!} Be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people {Like Grace} will not put up with sound doctrine!
Why was the sacrifice of Cain not accepted by YHWH
Posted : 28 Aug, 2019 10:11 PM
Grace quote:
Oh, so now we teach Demon seed.
End quote
And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between THY SEED and HER SEED; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Why was the sacrifice of Cain not accepted by YHWH
Posted : 28 Aug, 2019 10:25 PM
Emnity: he state or feeling of being actively opposed or hostile to someone or something.
Ok, my bad. God put the emnity there. Not satan. But funny how it was worded. ..they seed and her seed.. in a way it was like she committed adultery by being seduced by satan.
In Revelation, it talks about frogs..frogs catch prey with their tongues! Likewise so did satan with his lying tongue.
And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs coming out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
Revelation 13:14
Because of the signs it was given to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived those who dwell on the earth, telling them to make an image to the beast that had been wounded by the sword and yet had lived.
Why was the sacrifice of Cain not accepted by YHWH
Posted : 28 Aug, 2019 10:31 PM
OK! I remember now! It definitely includes those humans who have/will come to believe and practice his lies.
Here is a verse I just remembered!
Jesus, calling out the Jewish religious leaders in John 8:44, said this: "You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies."
Why was the sacrifice of Cain not accepted by YHWH
Posted : 29 Aug, 2019 06:04 AM
**SALVATION IS 100% FREE WHILE ETERNAL HEAVENLY REWARDS ARE 100% EARNED**!!
**SALVATION IS 100% FREE**
Titus 3:3,4: At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another. But when the kindness and **LOVE** of God our Savior appeared , He saved us, **NOT BECAUSE OF RIGHTEOUS THINGS WE HAD DONE**, but because of **HIS MERCY**!!
John 1:12,13: To all who received Him, to those who believed in His name, he gave the right to become children of God--children born not of natural descent, **NOR OF A HUMAN DECISION** or a husband's will but, **BORN OF GOD**!!
John 6:37,39,44,65: Jesus says, "**ALL** that the Father gives Me **WILL** come to Me, and whoever comes to Me I will **NEVER** drive away... And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall **LOSE NONE** of all that He has given Me, but raise them up at the Last Day.... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father who sent Me **DRAWS HIM**, and I will raise him up at the Last Day!!... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father has **ENABLED THEM**!!"
Ephesians 2:8,9: For it is by **GRACE** you have been saved, through **FAITH**—and this **NOT FROM YOURSELVES**, it is the **GIFT OF GOD**—not by works. So that no one can boast. For we are **GOD'S WORKMANSHIP**, created in Christ Jesus to do **GOOD WORKS**, which God prepared in advance for us to do!
Romans 12:3: For by the **GRACE GIVEN ME** I say to every one of you. Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourselves with sober judgment, in accordance with the **FAITH GOD HAS DISTRIBUTED TO EACH OF YOU**... We have different gifts, according to the **GRACE GIVEN TO EACH OF US**!!
Romans 9:15,16,18: God says, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion." It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God's mercy...Therefore God has mercy on whom He wants to have mercy, and He hardens whom He wants to harden. {But God's saints still preach God's Word to everyone}
John 15:16: Jesus says, You did not choose Me, but I **CHOSE YOU**and appointed you so that you might bear **FRUIT**--**FRUIT** that will last!!
Matthew 22:14: Jesus says, "MANY ARE INVITED**, but few are **CHOSEN**!"
Mar 13:20: Jesus says, "If the Lord had not cut short those days, no on would survive, but for the sake of the **ELECT**, whom He has **CHOSEN, He has shortened them!"
{The Lord has shortened the Great Tribulation from 3 1/2 years or 1278 days to 1260 days}
John 13:18: Jesus says, "I am not referring to all of you, I know those I have **CHOSEN**!
Ephesians 1:4-8; 11,12: In love He **PREDESTINED** us for adoption to sonship through Jesus Christ, in accordance with His pleasure and will--to the praise of His glorious grace, which He has freely given us in the One He loves, In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God's grace that He lavished on us with all wisdom and understanding... In Him we were also **CHOSEN**, having been **PREDESTINED** in accordance to the plan of Him who works out everything in conformity to the purpose of His will, in order that we, who were the first to put our hope in Christ, might be to the **PRAISE OF HIS GLORY**!!
I Thessalonians 1:4: For we know, brothers loved by God, that He has **CHOSEN YOU**, because our Gospel came to you not simply with words but also with power, with the Holy Spirit and deep conviction!
I Peter 2:9: But you are a **CHOSEN PEOPLE**, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God's special possession, that you might declare the praise of Him who **CALLED YOU** out of darkness into His wonderful light!!
These are **GOD'S WORDS* and not Calvin's words!
Revelation 17:14: They will make war against the **LAMB** but the **LAMB** will overcome them because He is **LORD** of lords and **KING** of kings and with Him will be His **CALLED** **CHOSEN** and **FAITHFUL** followers!! {Riding on white horses right after the Marriage Feast of the **LAMB** as per Revelation 19:7-20!}
Romans 6:23: The wages of sin is death, but the **GIFT OF GOD** is **ETERNAL LIFE**!
God's Word clearly teaches that faith, salvation, the Holy Spirit and eternal life are all 100 percent **FREE GIFTS OF GOD** and that the two main incentives for doing good works is being thankful to God for these amazing **FREE GIFTS** and to **EARN HEAVENLY ETERNAL REWARDS** which God has promised His chosen saints for faithful and loving service. Whereas those who believe in **SINLESS PERFECTION** believe that we have to earn our salvation and eternal life by doing **GOOD WORKS** and being **SINLESS** and that the only eternal reward is gaining eternal life by what we do; and if we commit even one small sin after we are saved we will loose our salvation and eternal life. And so man and not God becomes the Author and Finisher of our salvation.
**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??
**AND SO SALVATION IS 100 PERCENT **FREE** but **ETERNAL REWARDS** are 100 percent **EARNED**!!
Ephesians 6:8: Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not men, because you know that the Lord will **REWARD** everyone for what ever good he does!
Revelation 22:12 Jesus says, “Behold I am coming soon! My **REWARD** is with Me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done!”
Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, “The Son of Man is going to come in His Father's glory with His angels and **THEN** He will **REWARD** each person according to what he has done!”
Luke 11:33,34: Jesus says, "Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a **TREASURE** IN HEAVEN** that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. For where your **TREASURE** is, there your **HEART** will be also!"
Luke 14:13,14: Jesus says, "When you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be **BLESSED**. Although they cannot repay you you will be **REPAID AT THE RESURRECTION** of the righteous!"
2 Corinthians 5:9,10: We make it our goal to please Him... for we must all appear before the Judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.
1 Corinthians 3:13-15: His work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work. If what he has built survives, he will receive his **REWARD**. If it is burned up he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames.
How to Win Heavenly CROWNS:
I Corinthians 9:24-27: Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes in to strict training. They do it to get a **CROWN** that will not last; but we do it to get a **CROWN THAT WILL LAST FOREVER**! Therefore I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize!
2 John 1:8: Watch out that you do not lose what you have worked for, but that you may be **REWARDED** fully!.
Revelation 3:11: Jesus says, “I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your **CROWN**!”
2 Timothy 4:7,8: I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. Now there is in store for me the **CROWN** of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me **ON THAT DAY**—and not only to me, but also to all who have longed for His appearing!
The **CROWN** of Life for those who persevere under trials and persecution:
James 1:12: Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will receive the **CROWN OF LIFE** that God has promised to those who love Him!
Revelation 2:10 Jesus says, “Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer... Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the **CROWN OF LIFE**!”
Matthew 5:11,12: Jesus says, “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your **REWARD IN HEAVEN**!”
Luke6:22,23: Jesus says, "Blessed are you when people hate you, when they reject your name as evil, because of the Son of Man. Rejoice in that day and **JUMP FOR JOY**, because great is your **REWARD IN HEAVEN**!"
Why was the sacrifice of Cain not accepted by YHWH
Posted : 29 Aug, 2019 08:17 AM
This copy of kjv's post shows a lack of discernment and time of actual studying
Posted : 28 Aug, 2019 10:11 PM
Grace quote:
Oh, so now we teach Demon seed.
End quote
And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between THY SEED and HER SEED; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Sooooo...? Doesn't that imply the devils spawn?
Genesis 3 verses 14 - 15 is about the enemy of GOD Almighty and Messiah as the word ' seed' is singular in its use.
Why was the sacrifice of Cain not accepted by YHWH
Posted : 29 Aug, 2019 10:34 AM
KJO!
Got to answer here since Grace takes his very topic off in another direction by addressing Parrot off topic posts, twisting of Scripture to his own destruction!
Quote- Nadab and Abihu’s Error is Made Clear
We are left in no doubt about what Nadab and Ahihu did wrong. Their error is clear: They "offered profane fire before the Lord which he had not commanded them" (Leviticus 10:1). It was a two-fold error:
There was no excuse for the profanity in worship committed by Nadab and Abihu.
End quote.
So if I understand you right, likewise Richard#7744 "Error is Made Clear" here in this thread and "did wrong" when he "profaned" the WORD of Yahweh by adding his "words" to the Bible like "saint Abel" and many other threads he does so! It really is much like Nadab and Abihu because likewise Richard#7744 commits a "profanity in worship" by claiming by his g_d self power to be able to add "words" to the Bible. You see Richard#7744 does not really worship Yahweh but himself, he is his own self g_d of correcting Yahweh's original Laws and now claiming "Christ's law" changes everything, contradicts His Father's original Laws!
But here is what is AMAZING, Richard#7744 NEVER gives a list of WHAT is "Christ's law" because it only exist in his self g_d head of his!!! Lol!
Why was the sacrifice of Cain not accepted by YHWH
Posted : 29 Aug, 2019 10:41 AM
Grace, for the life of me I just don't understand the point you are trying to make?
Are you saying Yahweh did not like or "accept" Cain "because (his) person was not accepted??? Does Yahweh just predestined someone just because He does not like them, cause they are going to commit a sin? Is that what you mean?
If not, then that only leaves you with one option. Cain's sacrifice wasn't accepted because it was not offered according to what Yahweh had shown to his parents, Adam and Eve. Oh you say, where does the Bible say that you will probably state?
Well THINK! There was no death until sin, right? The very first animal was a sacrifice to make skin clothing for sinful Adam and Eve!
Obvious, no? So is it obvious sacrifices began at that point in the flat earth? Abel gave the correct blood sacrifice according to the new established Torah Law but Cain offered a sacrifice of vegies! Vegies don't bleed, do they. They don't "die" in the sense of having life blood in them! That is the key, life blood and is required of sin.
Think about this, Adam and Eve's original "sacrifice" came about because Yahweh killed the animal, shed its blood for them because of Adam and Eve's sin and made clothing also for them! Don't miss this, the original "sacrifice" was for SIN (blood sacrifice) and for clothing! Two fold.
THIS IS HUGE! So the final question to you is, do you think Yahweh could of just made some vegies (like the vegies "skins" Adam and Eve made for themselves now because they became self g_ds when they sinned!) for Adam and Eve's body covering or does His new Torah law at that time required a bleeding sacrifice, a life in the blood sacrifice and the skin (covering) of the animal for clothing? Hmmmm.... You see the real problem with Cain's offered sacrifice now?
Did I answer your thread topic in my humble opinion and did I go off topic like KJO did (and does sometimes) in her excitement of it all?
