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Mark 7:1-8 and 14-23!
Posted : 28 Aug, 2019 10:57 AM

Richard7744 always posts in every thread this verse at the TOP of his posts, lets address this challenge and find the truth!



Please everyone READ what Yah'shua (J_sus) teaches!!!



Quote of Richard 7744,



"KJVonly and Teddyhug: You both disagree with Mark 7 where **JESUS MADE ALL FOODS CLEAN.** There is nothing in Mark 7 that has anything to do with washing your hands!! And so you both disagree with these commands."



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What commands? That "all food is clean now just because a translation adds it in brackets??? A command from the NIV is from Yahweh? He changed His mind and sent His Son to die for "food" he never said was "food" to begin with? Really??? The "food" you speak of Richard are abominations to Yahweh!



Please READ Mark chapter 7 in its context!!!



Mark 7:2 (NIV)



1. Pharisees 2. and (when they) saw some of his disciples eating food with hands that were defiled, that is, unwashed.



You see it Richard, its all about unwashed hands that Yah'shua is talking about mainly in the chapter! The **LEGALISM** of the Pharisees to that of the washing of hands! Wow, how did you miss this???



Then read verses 3 through 5! Pharisees wash hands often, think everyone should do the same. People come from the market, except they wash hands, they eat not! The washing of cups, and pots and of the tables! The Pharisees asked Yah'shua the Messiah, KJV verse 5 "why walk not thy disciples according to the traditions of the elders, but eat bread with **UNWASHED** hands?



Are you so clueless that you do not see the context of chapter 7 of Mark???



Then it makes sense now WHAT Yah'shua was talking about in verses 19-23 because it was all about dirty hands! Yah'shua was telling them all, that what dirt you may get from **UNWASHED** hands "entereth into the man, it cannot defile him" and "goeth out the draught" when its all over! Yah'shua compares DIRTY HANDS to sin that comes OUT of the heart a man that is IMPORTANT, not dirty food from **UNWASHED** hands that go into a man, verses 20-23! You see it now???



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Mark 7:1-8 and 14-23!
Posted : 28 Aug, 2019 12:20 PM

Thank you Teddy!!

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VERY GOOD POST KJO!!! AMEN!!!!!

7 Angels are singing!

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Yep, all 7 accounted for !

Time to get back to preparation day for the Sabbath tomorrow! I get to delight in the Lord everyday but especially on his ordained one! I can feel the love already.

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Mark 7:1-8 and 14-23!
Posted : 28 Aug, 2019 12:29 PM

Peter's vision from God about making unclean foods clean in Acts 10:11-15 and Acts 11:5-9 is shown to have a second application since God was also showing that he made the unclean Gentiles clean.



Acts 10:11-15: Peter became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared he fell into a trance. He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its 4 corners. it contained all kinds of four footed animals, as well as reptiles and birds. Then a Voice told him "Get up Peter **KILL AND EAT**!" "Surely not Lord!" Peter replied , "I have never eaten anything impure or unclean {As per OT law} The Voice spoke to him a second time. Do not call anything impure **THAT GOD HAS MADE CLEAN**!" For God the Father who cannot lie had Jesus declare that all **FOODS ARE NOW CLEAN** in Mark 7:18-23!!



Now in Mark 7:1-4 Jesus was talking about unwashed hands. However, as you can clearly see I Mark 7:18-23 below that Jesus has changed subjects and there is absolutely nothing that even remotely refers to unwashed hands!!



Mark 7:18-23: Jesus says, "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him unclean? For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body!" By saying this Jesus declared **ALL FOODS CLEAN**!! He went on "What comes out of a man is what makes him unclean. For from within , out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come from inside and make a man unclean!"



And Timothy was inspired to write:

I Timothy 4:1-5: The Spirit clearly says that in later times some {Like KJV & Teddyhugger} will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through **HYPOCRITICAL LIARS**, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. They {Like KJV and Teddyhugger} order them **TO ABSTAIN FROM CERTAIN FOODS**, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For everything God created is good, and **NOTHING IS TO BE REJECTED** if it is received with thanksgiving, because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer!!



Galatians 3:23-25: "Before faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, *WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!" {KJV and Teddyhugger disagree with these inspired words of God!! since theybelieve we are still under the supervision of OT Law as to unclean foods}



I Corinthians 9:20,21: Paul said, "To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law though **I MYSELF AM NOT UNDER THE LAW**, so as to win those under the law. To those not having the law I became like one not having the law though I am not free from God's law but **AM UNDER CHRIST'S LAW!!"



Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, "ALL AUTHORITY** in heaven and on earth has been given to **ME**! Therefore, go and make disciples of all nations... Teaching them to obey **EVERYTHING** I HAVE COMMANDED YOU** {Including Mark 7:18:23} And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age!!"

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Posted : 28 Aug, 2019 02:08 PM

Yes, I wasn't kidding about the verses left out of corrupt bible translations.

Here is a list for comparison . Some don't mention "Through his blood" The most glaring corrupt translations being BOTH the Berean study bible and Berean literal bible!! Even Douay-Rheims had through his blood!

Douay-Rheims is Catholic.

From Bible hub:

New International Version

in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

New Living Translation

who purchased our freedom and forgave our sins.

English Standard Version

in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

Berean Study Bible

in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

Berean Literal Bible

in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

New American Standard Bible

in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

New King James Version

in whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins.

King James Bible

In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

Christian Standard Bible

In him we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

Contemporary English Version

who forgives our sins and sets us free.

Good News Translation

by whom we are set free, that is, our sins are forgiven.

Holman Christian Standard Bible

We have redemption, the forgiveness of sins, in Him.

International Standard Version

through whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

NET Bible

in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

New Heart English Bible

in whom we have our redemption, the forgiveness of our sins;

Aramaic Bible in Plain English

He in whom we have salvation and the forgiveness of sins;

GOD'S WORD® Translation

His Son paid the price to free us, which means that our sins are forgiven.

New American Standard 1977

in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

Jubilee Bible 2000

in whom we have redemption through his blood, even the remission of sins,

King James 2000 Bible

In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

American King James Version

In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

American Standard Version

in whom we have our redemption, the forgiveness of our sins:

Douay-Rheims Bible

In whom we have redemption through his blood, the remission of sins;

Darby Bible Translation

in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins;

English Revised Version

in whom we have our redemption, the forgiveness of our sins:

Webster's Bible Translation

In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

Weymouth New Testament

in whom we have our redemption--the forgiveness of our sins.

World English Bible

in whom we have our redemption, the forgiveness of our sins;

Young's Literal Translation

in whom we have the redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of the sins,

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Mark 7:1-8 and 14-23!
Posted : 28 Aug, 2019 02:33 PM

Peter's vision from God about making unclean foods clean in Acts 10:11-15 and Acts 11:5-9 is shown to have a second application since God was also showing that he made the unclean Gentiles clean.



Acts 10:11-15: Peter became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared he fell into a trance. He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its 4 corners. it contained all kinds of four footed animals, as well as reptiles and birds. Then a Voice told him "Get up Peter **KILL AND EAT**!" "Surely not Lord!" Peter replied , "I have never eaten anything impure or unclean {As per OT law} The Voice spoke to him a second time. Do not call anything impure **THAT GOD HAS MADE CLEAN**!"

For God the Father who cannot lie had Jesus declare that all **FOODS ARE NOW CLEAN** in Mark 7:18-23!!



Now in Mark 7:1-4 Jesus was talking about unwashed hands. However, as you can clearly see in Mark 7:18-23 below that Jesus has changed subjects and there is absolutely nothing that even remotely refers to unwashed hands!!



Mark 7:18-23: Jesus says, "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him unclean? For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body!" By saying this Jesus declared **ALL FOODS CLEAN**!! He went on "What comes out of a man is what makes him unclean. For from within , out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come from inside and make a man unclean!" And Timothy was inspired to write:



I Timothy 4:1-5: The Spirit clearly says that in later times some {Like KJV & Teddyhugger} will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through **HYPOCRITICAL LIARS**, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. They {Like KJV and Teddyhugger} order them **TO ABSTAIN FROM CERTAIN FOODS**, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For everything God created is good, and **NOTHING IS TO BE REJECTED** if it is received with thanksgiving, because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer!!



Galatians 3:23-25: "Before faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, *WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!" {KJV and Teddyhugger disagree with these inspired words of God!! since theybelieve we are still under the supervision of OT Law as to unclean foods}



I Corinthians 9:20,21: Paul said, "To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law though **I MYSELF AM NOT UNDER THE LAW**, so as to win those under the law. To those not having the law I became like one not having the law though I am not free from God's law but **AM UNDER CHRIST'S LAW!!"



Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, "ALL AUTHORITY** in heaven and on earth has been given to **ME**! Therefore, go and make disciples of all nations... Teaching them to obey **EVERYTHING** I HAVE COMMANDED YOU** {Including Mark 7:18:23} And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age!!"

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Posted : 28 Aug, 2019 05:37 PM

Well I royally messed up my sabbath dinner for tomorrow!

I wasn't thinking and smothered my cube steak in mushroom soup and topped it with shitake mushrooms!

They have no seed and grow in shade or darkness.

Well, I guess it is back to the drawing board!!

Maybe I will just fast and drink chicken broth tomorrow!!!

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Posted : 28 Aug, 2019 05:51 PM

Oh yeah, WOW! ...

Just remembered that I spent $30 on Italian white truffle infused oil several months ago! What a waste!!

Truffles are a fungus like mushrooms that grow in the ground Taste good with a nutty flavor but can't use it now!

Richard, pass the tissue paper.

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Posted : 28 Aug, 2019 06:03 PM

Richard the Parrot quote:

Now in Mark 7:1-4 Jesus was talking about unwashed hands. However, as you can clearly see I Mark 7:18-23 below that Jesus has changed subjects and there is absolutely nothing that even remotely refers to unwashed hands!!

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HUH??

The context was dirt , unclean hands . Tradition of washing hands , pots, cups.

Jesus says :Are ye so without understanding also? Mark V. 18

7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

Parallel passage:

Matthew 15:11-20 King James Version (KJV)

11 Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.

12 Then came his disciples, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended, after they heard this saying?

13 But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up.

14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

15 Then answered Peter and said unto him, Declare unto us this parable.

16 And Jesus said, Are ye also yet without understanding?

17 Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught?

18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.

19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:

20 These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.

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Posted : 28 Aug, 2019 06:11 PM

You should have spent the $30 on some Maine Lobster Tails which are yum yum yummy and so good for the tummy!!



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Posted : 28 Aug, 2019 07:03 PM

Parrot!!!

You are NOT making me feel better. Poor lobsters! Boiled alive in water to satisfy your devilish craving.

I had to look into this! Reminds me of my evil husband who boiled a snapping turtle alive in front of me to keep his shell for a cigar tray!!

The following information was taken from the Comptons Encyclopedia, (A Britannica Publication)

Mushrooms are members of a large group of flowerless plants, the fungi . They contain NO green coloring matter (chlorophyll) by means of which most other plants manufacture their food. Some obtain nourishment from decayed organic matter and are known as saprophytes.

"What is a saprophyte?", you might ask.

Taken from the Webster's revised unabridged dictionary:

Saprophyte \Sap"ro*phyte\, n. [Gr. sapro`s rotten + fyto`n a plant.] (Bot.) Any plant growing on decayed animal or vegetable matter, as most fungi and some flowering plants with no green color, as the Indian pipe.

Back to the Encyclopedia.

Others require food from living tissue and are therefore parasites.

The part of the mushroom plant which rises above the ground is only the fruiting body of the fungus.

Mushrooms are not green, is the fruit of decayed matter, does not come from a "mushroom" tree, and does not have seeds. Nope. No more mushrooms for me. Glad I know now..I have been healing from different skin and nail and gut issues and I think it is from eating healthier and conforming to Yahweh's dietary laws. I am healing from major psoriasis, brittle nails that I could peel off, digestive troubles (I would wake up with rotten food undigested in my throat after 8 hours!) Extreme heartburn that kept me up at night despite medication!! blurry vision, watery eyes (I went through a box of tissues before a month was up-nothing wrong said the eye doctor just dry eyes!- don't have it now!) My growths on my skin are diminishing. Now to get rid of the Arthritis!! My bones are deforming!

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Mark 7:1-8 and 14-23!
Posted : 28 Aug, 2019 08:51 PM

Kjv,

WHEN the SON , sets you free, then you will be free to eat freely.

You are still in bondage.

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