Author Thread: Genesis 1:28 thru 30
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Posted : 28 Aug, 2019 07:22 AM

BEFORE the flood!



The actual context to what Moses writes in Genesis 1:28 thru 30 on the sixth day of CREATION. Richard P7744 takes the context of this Moses writing to read that all the animals in verse 30 are now food to eat? Or is the context of the verses actually saying that ONLY plant food was given for food to animals and humans on the sixth day?



Richard's (P7744) writes - 30. **ALL** the creatures that move on the ground--**EVERYTHING** that has the breath of life in it for food!"



Lets read in two different translations.



Genesis 1:28-30 (NIV)



28. God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”

29. Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.

30. And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.” And it was so.



Genesis 1:28-30 (KJV)



28. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

29. And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

30. And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.



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Posted : 28 Aug, 2019 01:25 PM

The problem is with the word "unclean," which does not appear in the Greek text. To mean "unclean," Paul would have used akarthatos, but instead, the text reads koinos, which means "common," "ordinary," "defiled," or "profane (as opposed to holy or consecrated)." Peter uses both "common" and "unclean" to describe meats in Acts 10:14, so there is obviously a difference between the terms.



We know that the Bible defines "unclean" meat in Leviticus 11 and Deuteronomy 14, but when is meat considered "common"? The only circumstances in which clean meats are common or defiled are when a clean animal dies naturally or is torn by beasts (Leviticus 22:8) or when the blood has not been properly drained from the meat (Leviticus 17:13-14; 3:17). Such animal flesh was called common because it could be given to strangers or aliens in Old Testament times if they wished to eat it (Deuteronomy 14:21). Similarly, in Acts 15:20, 29, the apostles forbade the Gentiles to eat the meat of a strangled animal or meat that had not been drained of blood.

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Posted : 28 Aug, 2019 01:51 PM

Cains sacrifice was not accepted because Cain was not accepted.



3 So it came about in the course of time that Cain brought an offering to the LORD of the fruit of the ground. 4 Abel, on his part also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of their fat portions. And the LORD had regard for Abel and for his offering;

5 but for Cain and for his offering He had no regard. So Cain became very angry and his countenance fell.

6 Then the LORD said to Cain, "Why are you angry? And why has your countenance fallen? 7 "If you do well, will not [your countenance] be lifted up? And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door; and its desire is for you, but you must master it."

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Posted : 28 Aug, 2019 02:30 PM

Peter's vision from God about making unclean foods clean in Acts 10:11-15 and Acts 11:5-9 is shown to have a second application since God was also showing that he made the unclean Gentiles clean.



Acts 10:11-15: Peter became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared he fell into a trance. He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its 4 corners. it contained all kinds of four footed animals, as well as reptiles and birds. Then a Voice told him "Get up Peter **KILL AND EAT**!" "Surely not Lord!" Peter replied , "I have never eaten anything impure or unclean {As per OT law} The Voice spoke to him a second time. Do not call anything impure **THAT GOD HAS MADE CLEAN**!"

For God the Father who cannot lie had Jesus declare that all **FOODS ARE NOW CLEAN** in Mark 7:18-23!!



Now in Mark 7:1-4 Jesus was talking about unwashed hands. However, as you can clearly see I Mark 7:18-23 below that Jesus has changed subjects and there is absolutely nothing that even remotely refers to unwashed hands!!



Mark 7:18-23: Jesus says, "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him unclean? For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body!" By saying this Jesus declared **ALL FOODS CLEAN**!! He went on "What comes out of a man is what makes him unclean. For from within , out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come from inside and make a man unclean!"



And Timothy was inspired to write:



I Timothy 4:1-5: The Spirit clearly says that in later times some {Like KJV & Teddyhugger} will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through **HYPOCRITICAL LIARS**, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. They {Like KJV and Teddyhugger} order them **TO ABSTAIN FROM CERTAIN FOODS**, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For everything God created is good, and **NOTHING IS TO BE REJECTED** if it is received with thanksgiving, because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer!!



Galatians 3:23-25: "Before faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, *WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!" {KJV and Teddyhugger disagree with these inspired words of God!! since theybelieve we are still under the supervision of OT Law as to unclean foods}



I Corinthians 9:20,21: Paul said, "To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law though **I MYSELF AM NOT UNDER THE LAW**, so as to win those under the law. To those not having the law I became like one not having the law though I am not free from God's law but **AM UNDER CHRIST'S LAW!!"



Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, "ALL AUTHORITY** in heaven and on earth has been given to **ME**! Therefore, go and make disciples of all nations... Teaching them to obey **EVERYTHING** I HAVE COMMANDED YOU** {Including Mark 7:18:23} And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age!!"

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Posted : 28 Aug, 2019 07:20 PM

The knowledge of God is of absolutely no use unless we become like God, which is why he says, "Seek God and live!" (Amos 5:4, 6). What good is it if we have the knowledge but do not repent, do not turn to act and become like He is? None. If we only gain knowledge, we will not live.

By prayer, fasting, and study— Looking into His Word is a major portion of seeking God.

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Posted : 28 Aug, 2019 08:00 PM

In creation, God was not obligated in any way to give life to you or me. Life is a gift that puts us under obligation, and that obligation is stated, or at least implied very strongly, right when man is being created. God gave life to man and put him under the obligation of being the image-bearer of God (Genesis 1:26). That is why we were created.

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Posted : 28 Aug, 2019 08:05 PM

Image-bearer of God= HOLY.

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Posted : 29 Aug, 2019 06:07 AM

**SALVATION IS 100% FREE WHILE ETERNAL HEAVENLY REWARDS ARE 100% EARNED**!!



**SALVATION IS 100% FREE**



Titus 3:3,4: At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another. But when the kindness and **LOVE** of God our Savior appeared , He saved us, **NOT BECAUSE OF RIGHTEOUS THINGS WE HAD DONE**, but because of **HIS MERCY**!!



John 1:12,13: To all who received Him, to those who believed in His name, he gave the right to become children of God--children born not of natural descent, **NOR OF A HUMAN DECISION** or a husband's will but, **BORN OF GOD**!!



John 6:37,39,44,65: Jesus says, "**ALL** that the Father gives Me **WILL** come to Me, and whoever comes to Me I will **NEVER** drive away... And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall **LOSE NONE** of all that He has given Me, but raise them up at the Last Day.... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father who sent Me **DRAWS HIM**, and I will raise him up at the Last Day!!... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father has **ENABLED THEM**!!"



Ephesians 2:8,9: For it is by **GRACE** you have been saved, through **FAITH**—and this **NOT FROM YOURSELVES**, it is the **GIFT OF GOD**—not by works. So that no one can boast. For we are **GOD'S WORKMANSHIP**, created in Christ Jesus to do **GOOD WORKS**, which God prepared in advance for us to do!



Romans 12:3: For by the **GRACE GIVEN ME** I say to every one of you. Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourselves with sober judgment, in accordance with the **FAITH GOD HAS DISTRIBUTED TO EACH OF YOU**... We have different gifts, according to the **GRACE GIVEN TO EACH OF US**!!



Romans 9:15,16,18: God says, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion." It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God's mercy...Therefore God has mercy on whom He wants to have mercy, and He hardens whom He wants to harden. {But God's saints still preach God's Word to everyone}



John 15:16: Jesus says, You did not choose Me, but I **CHOSE YOU**and appointed you so that you might bear **FRUIT**--**FRUIT** that will last!!



Matthew 22:14: Jesus says, "MANY ARE INVITED**, but few are **CHOSEN**!"



Mar 13:20: Jesus says, "If the Lord had not cut short those days, no on would survive, but for the sake of the **ELECT**, whom He has **CHOSEN, He has shortened them!"

{The Lord has shortened the Great Tribulation from 3 1/2 years or 1278 days to 1260 days}



John 13:18: Jesus says, "I am not referring to all of you, I know those I have **CHOSEN**!



Ephesians 1:4-8; 11,12: In love He **PREDESTINED** us for adoption to sonship through Jesus Christ, in accordance with His pleasure and will--to the praise of His glorious grace, which He has freely given us in the One He loves, In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God's grace that He lavished on us with all wisdom and understanding... In Him we were also **CHOSEN**, having been **PREDESTINED** in accordance to the plan of Him who works out everything in conformity to the purpose of His will, in order that we, who were the first to put our hope in Christ, might be to the **PRAISE OF HIS GLORY**!!



I Thessalonians 1:4: For we know, brothers loved by God, that He has **CHOSEN YOU**, because our Gospel came to you not simply with words but also with power, with the Holy Spirit and deep conviction!



I Peter 2:9: But you are a **CHOSEN PEOPLE**, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God's special possession, that you might declare the praise of Him who **CALLED YOU** out of darkness into His wonderful light!!



These are **GOD'S WORDS* and not Calvin's words!



Revelation 17:14: They will make war against the **LAMB** but the **LAMB** will overcome them because He is **LORD** of lords and **KING** of kings and with Him will be His **CALLED** **CHOSEN** and **FAITHFUL** followers!! {Riding on white horses right after the Marriage Feast of the **LAMB** as per Revelation 19:7-20!}



Romans 6:23: The wages of sin is death, but the **GIFT OF GOD** is **ETERNAL LIFE**!



God's Word clearly teaches that faith, salvation, the Holy Spirit and eternal life are all 100 percent **FREE GIFTS OF GOD** and that the two main incentives for doing good works is being thankful to God for these amazing **FREE GIFTS** and to **EARN HEAVENLY ETERNAL REWARDS** which God has promised His chosen saints for faithful and loving service. Whereas those who believe in **SINLESS PERFECTION** believe that we have to earn our salvation and eternal life by doing **GOOD WORKS** and being **SINLESS** and that the only eternal reward is gaining eternal life by what we do; and if we commit even one small sin after we are saved we will loose our salvation and eternal life. And so man and not God becomes the Author and Finisher of our salvation.



**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??



**AND SO SALVATION IS 100 PERCENT **FREE** but **ETERNAL REWARDS** are 100 percent **EARNED**!!



Ephesians 6:8: Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not men, because you know that the Lord will **REWARD** everyone for what ever good he does!



Revelation 22:12 Jesus says, “Behold I am coming soon! My **REWARD** is with Me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done!”



Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, “The Son of Man is going to come in His Father's glory with His angels and **THEN** He will **REWARD** each person according to what he has done!”



Luke 11:33,34: Jesus says, "Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a **TREASURE** IN HEAVEN** that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. For where your **TREASURE** is, there your **HEART** will be also!"



Luke 14:13,14: Jesus says, "When you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be **BLESSED**. Although they cannot repay you you will be **REPAID AT THE RESURRECTION** of the righteous!"



2 Corinthians 5:9,10: We make it our goal to please Him... for we must all appear before the Judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.



1 Corinthians 3:13-15: His work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work. If what he has built survives, he will receive his **REWARD**. If it is burned up he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames.



How to Win Heavenly CROWNS:



I Corinthians 9:24-27: Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes in to strict training. They do it to get a **CROWN** that will not last; but we do it to get a **CROWN THAT WILL LAST FOREVER**! Therefore I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize!



2 John 1:8: Watch out that you do not lose what you have worked for, but that you may be **REWARDED** fully!.



Revelation 3:11: Jesus says, “I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your **CROWN**!”



2 Timothy 4:7,8: I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. Now there is in store for me the **CROWN** of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me **ON THAT DAY**—and not only to me, but also to all who have longed for His appearing!



The **CROWN** of Life for those who persevere under trials and persecution:



James 1:12: Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will receive the **CROWN OF LIFE** that God has promised to those who love Him!



Revelation 2:10 Jesus says, “Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer... Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the **CROWN OF LIFE**!”



Matthew 5:11,12: Jesus says, “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your **REWARD IN HEAVEN**!”



Luke6:22,23: Jesus says, "Blessed are you when people hate you, when they reject your name as evil, because of the Son of Man. Rejoice in that day and **JUMP FOR JOY**, because great is your **REWARD IN HEAVEN**!"

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Posted : 29 Aug, 2019 10:43 AM

Parrot quote

I Peter 2:9: But you are a **CHOSEN PEOPLE**, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God's special possession, that you might declare the praise of Him who **CALLED YOU** out of darkness into His wonderful light!

These are **GOD'S WORDS* and not Calvin's words!

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My KJV says " a peculiar people" instead of God's special possession though. But here is the rest of that verse :

10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

11 Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul;

12 Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that, whereas they speak against you as evildoers, they may by your good works, which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation.

13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;

14 Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.

15 For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:

16 As free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God.

17 Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.

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Posted : 29 Aug, 2019 12:51 PM

Leviticus 3:17: The Lord says, "This is a lasting ordinance for the generations to come, wherever you live You must **NOT EAT ANY FAT OR BLOOD**!" The New Testament also forbids eating blood in Acts 15:20 an Acts 15:29.



The fat of the land is very different from the fat on meat!'



So this command of God means that you must remove fat on meat before you eat it!!



This means you are to remove all the fat from bacon or any meat that you eat. This would include not eating hamburger meat with any fat and most hamburger meat is sold with 4 percent to 20 percent fat. McDonald's and Wendy's hamburgers would be forbidden since they both have about 7 percent fat !! They also have some blood in their burgers since they are not cooked very well done! So if you want to eat hamburger meat you have to grind up some meat with Zero fat!



It is also forbidden to eat any blood and so all red meat must be cooked to **VERY WELL DONE**!



Fortunately, I prefer barbecued chicken meat so I don't have to worry about eating fat or blood

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Posted : 29 Aug, 2019 01:09 PM

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This means you are to remove all the fat from bacon or any meat that you eat.

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Then you are left with hardly any defiled meat for your consumption. I prefer turkey bacon. Very good stuff! Tastes better than bacon to me. Love it with tomatoes and lettuce on toast. Reminds me of having similar sandwiches (pork then because of my Mom's ignorance) with my Mom at J.J. Newberry's department store.

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Fortunately, I prefer barbecued chicken meat so I don't have to worry about eating fat or blood.

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Nope! don't have to worry about blood and fat, just foods on the restricted list like Main Lobster tails and pigs that store toxins in their fat..Still in the meat also.

Their meat can be 30 times more toxic than beef or venison. Pigs are like humans ("Pigs are very much like humans," says Stan Casteel, associate professor in the University of Missouri's College of Veterinary Medicine. Plus you have to cook it at high temps to kill the parasites!

! Better watch that! You are faced with truth and the Lord won't be long suffering if you are bull headed .

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