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Are we Avatars in a physical reality? Was Jesus?
Posted : 16 Aug, 2019 10:33 AM

In order for us as spirits to exist and experience a finite physical reality we need physical finite bodies - an avatar. We read in Scripture of angels and God manifesting as physical bodies, eating and resting in the shade with Abraham. So why didn't Jesus just manifest rather than experiencing the complete human experience from birth to death when he only taught for 1 to 3 years?

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Are we Avatars in a physical reality? Was Jesus?
Posted : 17 Aug, 2019 09:27 AM

Satan and his followers like Zecharyah claim that Jesus was a human sinner and was not God??



**BUT WHAT DOES GOD's WORD SAY**??



2 Corinthians 5:21: God made Him **WHO HAD NO SIN** to be sin for us, so that in Him we might become the righteousness of God!



Hebrews 4:14-15: Since we have a great High Priest who ascended into heaven. Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly the faith we profess. For we do not have a High Priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have One who has been tempted in every way, just as we are--**YET WITHOUT SIN**!!



*}**IS JESUS OUR GREAT GOD AND SAVIOR**??



John 20:27-29: Then He said to Thomas, "Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe!" Thomas said to him, "My Lord and **MY GOD**!" Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen Me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed!"



Isaiah 9:6: For unto us a Child is born, to us a Son is given, and the government will be on His shoulders. And He will be called Wonderful Counselor and **MIGHTY GOD**!



Isaiah 7:14: The Lord Himself will give you a sign. The virgin will conceive and give birth to a Son, and will call Him **IMMANUEL**! {Which means **GOD WITH US**!}



Matthew 1:20-23: The angel of the Lord said to Joseph, "Take Mary home as your wife because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. She is to give birth to a Son, and you are to give Him the name Jesus which means **GOD IS HELP**, because He will save His people from their sins. All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet {Isaiah 7:14 above} "The virgin will conceive and give birth to a Son, and they will call Him **IMMANUEL** which means **GOD WITH US**!



John 1:18: No one has ever seen God, but the One and only Son, who is **HIMSELF GOD** and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made Him known!



John 14:6,7: Jesus says, "I am the **WAY** the **TRUTH** and the **LIFE**. No one comes to the Father except through Me. If you really knew Me, you will know the Father as well. From now on, you do know Him and have **SEEN HIM**!"



**GOD'S WORD COMMANDS THAT WE SHOULD ONLY WORSHIP GOD**!!



Matthew 4:9,10: Satan said to Jesus, "All this I will give you if you bow down and worship me." Jesus said to him, Away from Me Satan! For it is written, '**WORSHIP THE LORD YOUR GOD** and serve Him only!



Revelation 19:9,10: The angel said to me, "Write this: **BLESSED** are those who are invited to the wedding supper of the **LAMB**!" And he added, "These are the true words of God!" At this I fell at his feet to **WORSHIP** him, But he said to me, "Don't do that! I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers and sisters who hold to the testimony of Jesus! **WORSHIP GOD**! For it is the spirit of prophecy who bears testimony to Jesus!"



Revelation 22:8,9: I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who had been showing them to me. But he said to me, "**DON'T DO THAT** A am a fellow servant with you and with your fellow prophets and with all who **KEEP THE WORDS** of this scroll. **WORSHIP GOD**!!



Hebrews 1:6,8: When God brings His firstborn into the world He says, "Let all God's angels **WORSHIP HIM**.... About the Son He says, "Your throne, **O GOD**, will last for ever and ever, a scepter of justice will be the scepter of **YOUR KINGDOM**!"



Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, "**ALL AUTHORITY**in heaven and on earth has been given to **ME**. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations... and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always!"



**JESUS CHRIST, OUR GREAT GOD AND SAVIOR**



Jesus is **WORSHIPED** many times in God's Word in Matthew 2:2,8,11; 14:33; 28:9,17 Luke 24:52 John 9:38 and Revelation 5:11-14 and !5:4!!



Matthew 2:10,11: When the Wise Men saw the star, they were overjoyed. On coming to the house, they saw the Child with His mother Mary, and they bowed down and **WORSHIPED HIM**!



Matthew 14:33; Then those who were in the boat **WORSHPED HIM**!!



Matthew 28:8,9: So the women hurried away from the tomb, afraid yet filled with joy, and ran to tell His disciples. Suddenly Jesus met them. "Greetings," He said. They came to Him, clasped His feet and **WORSHIPED HIM**!



Matthew 28:16,17: Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. When the saw Him, they **WORSHIPED HIM**!



There are some who completely ignore these Scriptures and claim that Jesus is not God because he said that the Father is greater than me in John 14:28 and that the Father told Him what to say as per John 14:23,24: Jesus says, "Anyone who loves Me will obey My teaching. My Father will love them, and We will come to them and make our home with them. Anyone who does not love Me will not obey My teaching. The words you hear are not My own; they belong to the Father who sent Me."



John 9:37,38: Jesus said, "You have now seen Him; in fact, He is the one speaking with you!" Then the man said, "Lord, I believe," and he **WORSHIPED HIM**!



NOTE: Jesus is called the **LAMB** 30 times in the book of Revelation!



Revelation 5:13,14: Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and on the sea, an all that is In them, saying "To Him who sits on the throne and to the **LAMB** be praise and honor and glory and power for ever and ever!" The 4 living creatures said, "Amen," and the elders fell down and **WORSHIPED**!



Revelation 17:14; They will wage war against the **LAMB**, but the **LAMB** will overcome them because He is **LORD** of lords and King of kings--and with Him will be **HIS** **CALLED**, *CHOSEN** and **FAITHFUL** followers!!



Titus 2:13,14: We wait for the **BLESSED HOPE**--the glorious appearing of our **GREAT GOD AND SAVIOR**, Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify a people that are **HIS VERY OWN**, eager to do what is good!!

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Posted : 17 Aug, 2019 01:54 PM

Wow, saw a new post, clicked and who do you think it is? Mr. Slander posting the same comment in every thread that I've read a dozen times about me because he is unable to separate discussion from reality. According to his profile he is supposed to be a grown as-s man, but he behaves as a child.

This dude clearly has problems.

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Posted : 17 Aug, 2019 03:26 PM

Zecharyah wrongly claims that I believe in **SUPERSESSIONISM**



Two Wrong Kinds of Covenant Theology:



Today, two false brands of covenant theology are leading some conservative Evangelicals to teach false ways of salvation that the Holy Spirit condemns in Galatians chapter one. The false doctrine of dual-covenant theology teaches that Jews are saved by their observance of the Old Testament law, while Gentiles are saved by faith in Jesus Christ. Another aberrant teaching called One Law Theology, embraced by Messianic Jews and tolerated by growing numbers of Evangelicals, teaches that Gentiles in effect must become Jews in order to be saved.



Dual-Covenant Theology:



Televangelist John Hagee's dual-covenant statements have been reported in a Houston newspaper. Hagee said, "I believe that every Jewish person who lives in the light of the Torah, which is the word of God, has a relationship with God and will come to redemption," and "I'm not trying to convert the Jewish people to the Christian faith." The news article went on to report: "In fact, trying to convert Jews is a 'waste of time,' [Hagee] said.



However, in John 14:6: Jesus says, "I am the the Way the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father **EXCEPT THROUGH ME**!"



One Law Theology



The movement called Messianic Judaism has gained increasing popularity among Evangelicals over the past forty years. Most Messianic Jews embrace what is called "One Law Theology." The main teaching of One Law Theology is that both Jews and Gentiles are required to observe the entirety of the Old Testament law. Messianic Jews define sin as any violation of any part of the first five books of the Old Testament. They insist - wrongly - that this is what the New Testament teaches. They even go so far as to teach that the Apostle Paul remained a law-keeping Pharisee to the end of his life!



One-Law Theology has many destructive consequences. Many Messianic Jews teach, for example, that a Gentile believer in Christ must be circumcised in order to be a member of the covenant. They also observe the Old Testament Jewish feast days. They hold their worship services on Friday evenings or Saturday mornings rather than on Sunday, the New Testament Lord's Day. And in their teachings they avoid the use of the term, "the cross" because they consider it to be a Gentile term, and they emphasize the use of Hebrew terminology in their teachings.



Many Evangelicals have taken a tolerant attitude toward these doctrinal deviancies, and some have adopted the position that any criticism of Messianic Judaism is anti-Semitic. This is not a legitimate charge. There is nothing anti-Semitic about honest, Biblical criticism of any theology that seeks to bring elements of the Jewish law back into the Christian faith, and this certainly applies to an honest and Biblical evaluation of the theology of Messianic Judaism. Anything that brings the Old Testament Jewish system back into the Christian faith is a denial of the Gospel.



REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY OR SUPERSESSIONISM



Punitive **SUPERSESSIONISM** suggests that Christians replaced Jews as God's chosen people in this new covenant era and that, other than their coming to Christ, God was finished with any further plan for Jews after the first century.



However, God will miraculously save 144,000 Jewish evangelists during the Great Tribulation and God's 2 Witnesses during the Great Tribulatiuon will definately be 2 famous Jews who will be Moses and Elijah.



I was a missionary in Israel and I will make a wild guess that only about 4,000 Jews in Israel and about 25,000 Jews inthe USA are truly born again. There are presently about 6.5 million Jews in Israel, about 6.5 million Jews in the USA and about 2 million Jews in the rest of the world for a total of about 15 million Jews.



During the Great Tribulation two thirds of the approximately 15 million Jews will be killed but one third or about 5 million Jews or **ALL ISRAEL** that is left will be saved with the help of Moses and Elijah and 144,00 Jewsish evangelists and thousands of Gentile evangelists.



Romans 11:25-28: I do not want you to br ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of Gentiles has come in {See Revelation 7:9-18}. And so **ALL ISRAEL** will be saved... As far as the Gospel is concerned, they are enemies on your account; but as far as election is cocerned, they are loved on account of the Patriarchs, for God's gifts and His call are irrevocable!!



Zechariah 13:8-9: In the whole land," declares the Lord, two-thirds will be struck downand perish; yet one-third will be left in it. This third I will put into the fire; I will refine them like silver and test them like gold. They will call on My name and I will answer them; I will say, "They are My people,' and they will say, "The Lord is our God!'"



And so I am not a **SUPERSSESIONIST** who believes that God was finished with any other plan for the Jews after the first century!



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Posted : 18 Aug, 2019 06:34 PM

Zech quote

If Jesus never had the possibility of disobedience; he wasn't really human

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Then why did the devil tempt him??? He tried over and over , knowing that Jesus had fasted asked him to turn stones into bread. MT. 4 :1

2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred.

3 And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.

4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

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