I thought it would be a good idea to start this new thread because where the discussion was going in the "FLAT EARTH people - I have questions!" thread, it was really going off topic. So we can stay on topic here because what's to be discussed eventually is Yahweh's seasons/appointed times or in Hebrew "mo'ed" - "mow'ed" (Feast's!), which ever spelling you like.
Genesis 1:14, Strongs 4150.
Now I was going somewhere with my new thread I started back in July the 23rd, on page 5 now and its list of threads, called "Creation Clocks" but of course other threads at the time were being derailed by demolition expert Richard (P7744) that likes to be called Parrot and as always a distraction. Good nickname for him as he loves to "parrot" Scripture in massive dribble of them and so much of the time off topic!
We will bring to life that old thread "Creation Clocks" and move on with it here. I hope and pray its not high jacked with "dumps" of Scripture that is off topic!
So in the thread "FLAT EARTH people - I have questions" we will cover questions about flat earth there and here we will take up where we left off in the "Creation Clocks" thread. Ok?
Then you be blind and read into all the so called signs of the times according to the world , not scripture. For instance, the world was excited or freaking out or both when Trump was running for office.
SO many feast and rapture watchers were reading into that and saying Trump + Pence meant TRUMPETS!
Oh boy!'Jesus is soon to fulfill the feast of Trumpets!!..
and that third temple is sure coming if we can get it built on the dome of the rock and take it from the Muslims!! A holy war is coming, Gog and Magog!
For the rapture subscribers,
Better get your apocalypse food from Jim Baker so you can ride the tribulation through if you should find yourself on the left behind list and hopefully you don't get POISONED by it first cause John Hagee's blood moons are another sign of the times !! Better just go live out in the field waiting to be beamed up if you think your worthy to be raptured!! Then the atheiest survivormen go and build a fallout shelter underground and think they are super cool for being so prepared.. Nothing but confusion and chaos !
"Futurists" make the same mistake that the Jews who crucified Christ made – they were not satisfied with a spiritual kingdom; they had to have a literal, worldly, physical kingdom. That's why they rejected Christ's "first coming." I hope and pray that you do not make the same mistake about his so-called "second coming" and reject the fulfillment of the coming of His Kingdom that came in 70 A.D. Glory be to God, His Kingdom is here now! If not, what kingdom is He the King of kings of?
The Book of Hebrews and the 10th Jubilee Sabbath Cycle
In chapters 3-4 the author demonstrates that the OT predicted “another sabbath rest” for Israel to enter into of which the land promise was only a type. In chapters 9-10 this “approaching day” of sabbath rest is connected to His Second Appearing as the Great High Priest to finish His atonement work. The first century Church was “eagerly” awaiting this return that is described as taking place in the last days of the Old Covenant age and “in a very little while” and would “not delay.” He was “about to” (Greek mello) burn up His Old Covenant apostate Jewish enemies and place them under His feet at this AD 66 – AD 70 Second Appearing – and DID.
In chapter 7 Melchizedek only functioned as a type of Christ, therefore the fist century imminent expectations of the eschatological “last days” Melchizedek is rightfully applied to Christ as Messiah and God to accomplish what they thought this figure would.
The Book of Revelation and the 10th Jubilee Sabbath Cycle
The book of Revelation picks up where Daniel leaves off. Daniel had to “seal up the vision” because the time of fulfillment was “far off” (Dan. 12), whereas John is told the opposite concerning the SAME prophecy. He is told to “NOT seal up the vision” because the time of fulfillment is “at hand” (Rev. 22). Most of the book of Revelation deals with Daniel’s final “7” and places it being fulfilled in a fist century AD 66 – AD 77 period (i.e. “shortly” “soon” “at hand” “about to” “quick”).
Revelation also addresses issues of atonement, forgiveness of sin, sabbath rest and restoring man’s original Edenic inheritance in Christ at His “soon” Second Coming event during AD 66 – AD 70.
The letter to the Hebrews explained the role of Jesus as the new Melchizedek (Heb.7.11), the one who had attained the priesthood by ascent, being raised up, not by descent from Aaron. The crucifixion and ascension had been recognised as the enthronement of the Lamb, exactly as described in Hebrews 10.12: ‘When Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God, there to wait until his enemies should be made a footstool for his feet’. The remainder of the tenth Jubilee was the time of waiting until the final battle and victory when the Great High Priest would emerge to complete the Atonement and conclude the Jubilee.” (Ibid.).
*** “The seventh seal [of Revelation] would bring the return of the heavenly high priest to complete the great atonement at the end of the tenth Jubilee which was, by that time, imminent. In August 66CE, the nationalists gained entrance to the temple area and burned all records of debt, the start of the Jubilee.”
And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up for to read. And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written, The Spirit of the Lord [is] upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to SET AT LIBERTY them that are bruised, To preach THE ACCEPTABLE YEAR OF THE LORD. And he closed the book, and he gave [it] again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him. And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.
The message in Luke 4:19 has to do with the announcement of ‘the acceptable year of the Lord’. This must be the Sabbath year of 26 AD.
Jesus would have probably announced these words on the Feast of Pentecost in 27 AD. The next holy day, the Day of Trumpets in 27 AD, would begin the second year of his ministry.
The message in Luke 4:18 also has to do with a ‘proclamation of liberty’. Liberty was to be proclaimed as we see here in the commandments of the Sabbath year and of the Jubilee year. (cf. Deut. 15:12-18). (Marie Casale, THE SABBATH JUBILEE YEARS POINT TO THE MINISTRY OF CHRIST).
The “Already and Not Yet” of the Jubilee Sabbath Cycle of Isiah 61-63/Luke 4
Many scholars today use the phrase “the already and not yet” and yet refuse to submit to the inspired time frame of this period of NT eschatology and that the “not yet” was genuinely and literally “near” and would “not be delayed” (i.e. fulfilled in AD 70):
TOPIC “THE ALREADY– TRANSFORMING/RISING– AND IMMINENT NOT YET”
Death “…the death is being destroyed”(1 Cor. 15:26 WUESTNT) AND 1 Cor. 15:54-55
Body / Resurrection / Image Ephs. 2:6“…is giving it a body”“…it is being sown…”
“…it is being raised in glory…”
“…it is being raised in power…”
“…it is being sown…”“…it is being raised…”(1 Cor. 15:32, 38, 43)“…becoming conformed…”(Phil. 3:21YLT)“…are being transformed”(2 Cor. 3:18)
AND 1 Cor. 15:52-53Heb. 11:35-40Acts 24:15YLT“about to be”
World /Heavens & Earth / New Creation “…are being destroyed/dissolved.”(2 Pet. 3:11)“…this world is passing away.”(1 Cor. 7:31)“The world is passing away…”(1 Jn. 2:17)2 Cor. 5:17 AND 2 Pet. 31 Pet. 4:5-7, 17“end of all things is near”1 Jn. 2:18 “last hour”Rev. 21–22:7, 10, 20“at hand” “soon”
New Jerusalem “coming down”(Rev. 3:12 NIV) AND Rev. 21:1ff.Heb. 13:14YLT“about to come”
Kingdom “receiving a kingdom”(Heb. 12:28) AND Lk. 21:31-32 “this generation” “near”
Zecharyah still wants us to keep some of the OT festivals and special days??
**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??
Colossians 2:16,17: Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you **EAT** or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a *SHADOW* of the things that were to come, the reality, however, is found in Christ!!!
Galatians 4:9,10: How is it that you are turning back to those weak and miserable principles? Do you want to be enslaved by them all over again? You are observing **SPECIAL DAYS** and months and seasons and years. I fear for you. that somehow I have wasted my efforts on you!!
Prophetic7744 is a great example of those who post Scripture with no understanding.
The Colossians passage says; "let no one judge you" for keeping or not keeping Feasts. Then what does he do? He judges you for keeping Feasts! 🤔
The Galatians passage is clearly out of context for if you read right before it Paul is clearly addressing pagan holidays.🙄
Now this man will not address these corrections to his errors. He will not put up with sound teaching. But will instead just post more copy and paste Scripture like an ostrich with its head stuck in the sand. And he has the audacity to call Jews blind? 😂
Zecharyah still wants us to keep some of the OT festivals and special days??
**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??
Colossians 2:16,17: Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you **EAT** or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a *SHADOW* of the things that were to come, the reality, however, is found **IN CHRIST**!!
Galatians 4:9,10: How is it that you are turning back to those weak and miserable principles? Do you want to be enslaved by them all over again? You are observing **SPECIAL DAYS** and months and seasons and years. I fear for you. that somehow I have wasted my efforts on you!!
Zecharyah quote:
"The Colossians passage says; "let no one judge you" for keeping or not keeping Feasts. Then what does he {7744}do? He judges you for keeping Feasts! "
Actually I made no comments on judging or not judging on Colossians 2:16,17 above I just let God's Word speak for itself which says in Colossians 3:17: These are a *SHADOW* of the things that were to come, the reality, however, is found **IN CHRIST**!!!
It is you Zecharyah who are judging those who do not keep these OT feasts which are Just a **SHADOW of things that were to come. The **REALITY** is in the **NEW COVENANT TEACHINGS OF CHRIST** which claims that every day is the Lord's Day especially **TODAY**!!
The Galatians passage is clearly out of context for if you read right before it Paul is clearly addressing pagan holidays. Paul is clearly not addressing Pagan holidays in Galatians since most of the Galatian believers were Jews who followed the OT feasts laws and special days.
Paul had many messages to the Galatian church Jews about returning to OT laws such as:
Galatians 6:2: Fulfill the **LAW OF CHRIST**!!
Galatians 3:23-25: "Before faith came, we were held prisoners by the {**OT**} law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, *WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE {**OT**} LAW!!" {Except Zecharyah??}
*WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!
Galatians 2:14-16: Paul said, When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter in front of them all, "You are a Jew, yet you live like a Gentile and not like a Jew. How is it, then that you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs? We who are Jews by birth and not 'Gentile sinners' know that a man is NOT justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because **BY OBSERVING THE LAW NO ONE WILL BE JUSTIFIED**!" {Except Zecharyah??}
Galatians 2:20,21: The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me. I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!"
Galatians 3:10-13: "All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law." Clearly **NO ONE IS JUSTIFIED BEFORE GOD BY THE LAW*, because, "The righteous will live by faith." The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, "The man who does these things will live by them." **CHRIST REDEEMED US FROM THE CURSE OF THE LAW** by becoming a curse for us!
