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Christ is the head of the one body, the church
Posted : 31 Jul, 2019 07:37 PM

and every one in it is equal to every one else in it.



I Cor 12:13  For by one Spirit were we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.



Gal 3:28  There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for you are all one in Christ Jesus



Col 3:11  Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all. 



There is no racial, ethnic, language, national or any other kind of supremacy(white, black, hispanic, asian, american, indian, european, african, arab, russian, chinese, etc. you name the people group, nation or language) in Christ.



Every member of the Body of Christ partakes of the same spiritual blessings. (Ephesians 1:3)



Rev 7:9    After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; 10  And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. 

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Christ is the head of the one body, the church
Posted : 1 Aug, 2019 11:25 AM

The so called church was made up by men.

Compare what you call the so called church with the called out ones.

Look at 1 corinthians verses 24- 28, see if the so called church has this going for it.

Just because you read an english word does not mean that same word is in the Greek manuscripts.

Remember not to add....

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Christ is the head of the one body, the church
Posted : 1 Aug, 2019 11:45 AM

I Corinthians 10:4:3,4: They {Israel in the wilderness} all ate the same spiritual food and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the **SPIRITUAL ROCK** that accompanied them, and that **ROCK WAS CHRIST**!!



Before quoting Matthew 16:15-18 it is interesting to note that the Greek word for **ROCK** in Matthew 16:18 and I Corinthians 4:4 above is **PETRA**. and the Greek word for **PETER** or a **STONE** is **PETROS**.



Matthew 16:15-18: Jesus said to Peter, "Who do you say that I am?" Simon Peter answered, "You are the **CHRIST**, the Son of the Living God!" Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by My Father in heaven. And I tell you that you are Peter {**PETROS** or **STONE*}, and on this *ROCK** {**PETRA** or CHRIST** above} I will build My church!!"



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Christ is the head of the one body, the church
Posted : 1 Aug, 2019 12:12 PM

AMEN! Parrot!

Peter , Cephas,Simon. He had several names. Died between AD 64-68

JESUS is our ROCK!

Rock of Ages, cleft for me....let me hide myself in thee...

Love that BIBLICAL song! A beautiful inspired hymn.

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Christ is the head of the one body, the church
Posted : 1 Aug, 2019 12:36 PM

gracenotworkssaves quote:



"The 'church' does not exist in the Scriptures... Where the so called church came from, i do not know."????



The word church in the Bible comes from the Greek word **EKKLESIA**, which means a called out company or assembly. Wherever it is used in the Bible it refers to people. It can be a group of believers (Acts 19:30-41), or the body of Christ (Ephesians 1:22; Ephesians 5:25,32).



The Greek word **EKKLESIA** is mentioned **114 times** in the New Testament and is also translated **ASSEMBLY** or **CONGREGATION**! The phrase **THE CHURCH THAT MEETS IN YOUR HOME** is mention 6 times in the New Testament and so the church or congregation is **NOT A BUILDING**!



We see the word church used three different ways: First, as the body of Christ, the church is often defined as a local assembly or group of believers (1 Corinthians 1:2; 2 Corinthians 1:1; Galatians 1:1-2). Second, it is defined as the body of individual living believers (1 Corinthians 15:9; Galatians 1:13). Finally, it is defined as the universal group of all people who have trusted Christ through the ages (Matthew 16:18; Ephesians 5:23-27).



What the church or congregation is not:



•The church or congregation is not Jews or Gentiles:



We see three distinct groups of people in the Bible: Jews, Gentiles, and the church (1 Corinthians 10:31-33; Galatians 3:26-29). Jews are all born as descendants of Abraham through Isaac (Romans 9:6-7). Gentiles are all other people born who are not Jews.



When a Jew or a Gentile trusts Christ as their Savior, they are born again into God’s family, become a child of God, and are part of the church. They are no longer a Jew or a Gentile (Galatians 3:26-29). The wall of separation between Jew and Gentile is torn down and they become one body (Ephesians 2:14-16).



•The church or congregation is not a kingdom:



Some people try to make the church the kingdom of Heaven that has already come. They ignore the following: The church inherits the kingdom (Matthew 25:34; 1 Corinthians 6:9; 1 Corinthians 15:47-50). The church is here on earth, but the kingdom of Heaven is not here (Isaiah 9:7; Matthew 5:19-20; Matthew 8:11)



John 18:36: Jesus says, "My Kingdom is not of this world. If it were, My servants would fight to prevent My arrest by the Jewish leaders. But *My Kingdom is from another place!!"



**The church or conregation is not a physical building or business organization:



Too often people describe a church building or organization as the church. This is because they emphasize the facility or organizational hierarchy as what constitutes a church. Most churches are organized in such a way that the public face of a church is seen as a business. However, since many people have a difficult time putting a label on a church, the term local church is often used to denote the local assembly of believers along with their meeting place and operations.



What is the Biblical view of church??



Although the church is not a physical building, believers are referred to as the building or temple of God. Like a physical building, believers also have a **ROCK** or Cornerstone; Jesus Christ. The foundation is the prophets and apostles. ( 1 Corinthians 3:9-17; 1 Corinthians 6:19; 2 Corinthians 6:6; Ephesians 2:19-22).



Peter 2:5,6: You also like **LIVIG STONES**, are being built into a spiritual house, to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. For in the Scripture it says: "See, I lay a **STONE** in Zion, a chosen and **PRECIOUS CORNERSTONE**! {A huge **ROCK**}



**The church or congreagation is the bride of Christ:



The Bible makes reference to the church being the bride of Christ (2 Corinthians 11:2; Ephesians 5:25-32). This also alluded to in John 14:1-3 when Jesus talked about making a place at His Father’s house for us. This is a direct reference to when a man proposes to a woman and they are engaged. The man goes back to his father’s house to build on an addition. When the addition is done and everything is ready, he comes to call for his bride, which symbolizes the resurrection (Matthew 25:1; Revelation 19:7-9).



•The church has a Spiritual purpose:



The local church or assembly of believers has different roles that God gave to specific believers for the purpose of perfecting or training the believers, doing the work of the ministry, and strengthening of the church body. The roles given in the Bible are apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers. appointed by Christ the **ROCK** and not by the church; as per Ephesians 4:11-14! Deacons are also mentioned in Acts 6:1-7 and 1 Timothy 3:8-13 as servants to wait upon people with physical needs.



The church body also serves as a local group to resolve conflicts (Matthew 18:15-20) and serve as a court (1 Corinthians 6:1-8). In addition, baptisms and the Lord’s Supper or communion are observed by the church body (Acts 2:37-40; 1 Corinthians 11:17-34). Depending on the size of the church body, other ministries are performed by the members of the church as God has gifted each person (Romans 12:3-13; Ephesians 4:1-8).



Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, "**ALL AUTHORITY** in heaven and on earth has been given to **ME** {The **ROCK**} Therefore go and disciples of all nations.. Teaching them to obey everything I commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age!"



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Christ is the head of the one body, the church
Posted : 1 Aug, 2019 01:22 PM

Hmmm....."Christ is the head of the body" followed by supporting verses, yet any words from Jesus on the subject are conspicuously absent.

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Christ is the head of the one body, the church
Posted : 1 Aug, 2019 01:33 PM

You use the NASB right? Why?



ἐκκλησίαν,

ekklēsian church

Called out assembly..

Latin ecclesia, from Greek ekklesia, where the word is a compound of two segments: "ek", a preposition meaning "out of", and a verb, "kaleo", signifying "to call" - together, literally, "to call out". Although that usage soon passed away and was replaced with "assembly, congregation, council", or "convocation".

Tyndale was willing to die for God's word and truth. He didn't like the word "church." Instead, he used the word "congregation." Godly Tyndale, and other sixteenth-century reformers who were more reputable, did not like the word "church." They used other words like "congregation," "governmental assembly," etc.

A church building is not a place for a called out assembly .Just like this forum is not a place for a called out assembly.

It is Christ's body! but when I read the scriptures, I am not placing a building as an Idol in the reading. So does it matter to me? No.

I don't go to "church". Most are a state organization anyways. 501c3 tax free exemption. The state controls what they can preach because of that status!

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Christ is the head of the one body, the church
Posted : 1 Aug, 2019 01:50 PM

Zecharyah

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Hmmm....."Christ is the head of the body" followed by supporting verses, yet any words from Jesus on the subject are conspicuously absent.

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1 Corinthians 12:12-27 King James Version (KJV)

12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.



13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.



14 For the body is not one member, but many.



15 If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?



16 And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?



17 If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling?



18 But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him.



19 And if they were all one member, where were the body?



20 But now are they many members, yet but one body.



21 And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you.



22 Nay, much more those members of the body, which seem to be more feeble, are necessary:



23 And those members of the body, which we think to be less honourable, upon these we bestow more abundant honour; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness.



24 For our comely parts have no need: but God hath tempered the body together, having given more abundant honour to that part which lacked.



25 That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another.



26 And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it.



27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.



"But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God."

1 Corinthians 11:3, KJV





"Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,"

Ephesians 1:20-22, KJV





"But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:"

Ephesians 4:15, KJV





"For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body."

Ephesians 5:23, KJV





"And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence."

Colossians 1:18, KJV





"And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:"

Colossians 2:10, KJV





"Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,"

1 Peter 2:7, KJV

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Christ is the head of the one body, the church
Posted : 1 Aug, 2019 02:30 PM

Zecharyah quote:



"Christ is the head of the body" followed by supporting verses, yet any words from Jesus on the subject are conspicuously absent."???



**BUT WHAT ABOUT THE STATEMENT BY JESUS CHRIST THE **ROCK** IN MATTHEW 16:15-18**!!



I Corinthians 10:4:3,4: They {Israel in the wilderness} all ate the same spiritual food and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the **SPIRITUAL ROCK** that accompanied them, and that **ROCK WAS CHRIST**!!



Before quoting Matthew 16:15-18 it is interesting to note that the Greek word for **ROCK** in Matthew 16:18 and I Corinthians 4:4 above is **PETRA**. and the Greek word for **PETER** or a **STONE** is **PETROS**.



Matthew 16:15-18: Jesus said to Peter, "Who do you say that I am?" Simon Peter answered, "You are the **CHRIST**, the Son of the Living God!" Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by My Father in heaven. And I tell you that you are Peter {**PETROS** or **STONE*}, and on this *ROCK** {**PETRA** or CHRIST** above} I will build My church!!"



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Christ is the head of the one body, the church
Posted : 1 Aug, 2019 02:53 PM

There are 6 versus in the bible which say "the church in your house." We are supposed to support our preachers teachers evangelists and prophets. But there is not one verse in the New Testament which tells us to give money for a church building. Unfortunately there will be a great Apostasy or falling away in the last days.



On the internet there are only about 2 out of 100 preachers that preach the Gospel. Preachers nowadays never want offend their money giving church members and so the prosperity Gospel is now very popular with hardly a mention of the approximately 400 do's and dont's in the New Covenant with the hope of countless eternal heavenly rewards for faithful and loving service!!



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Christ is the head of the one body, the church
Posted : 1 Aug, 2019 03:13 PM

I almost didn't recognize your post there Parrot. No caps!



Yes, I remember "Church" . We need a collection for our roof...We need someone to paint the Church...We need a collection to help with taxes. We need to keep our lights on...air conditioning!

I live in a peaceful setting. Jesus preached outdoors alot. No air conditioning! Just his Father's creation!

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