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WHO GIVES A đź’© ABOUT HELL?
Posted : 30 Jul, 2019 06:54 AM

Annihilation vs eternal burning? ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW IS YOU DON'T WANT TO GO THERE!

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Posted : 30 Jul, 2019 07:28 PM

Caligula tried to place his statue in the Temple and the Jews resisted.

In Caesarea, Jews and Syrians went at each others' throats for mastery of the city; 20,000 Jews were put to death. Similar bloodshed occurred in Alexandria and Damascus.

The Jewish rebellion itself took place in 66 AD.

Tacitus in the Annals refers to disturbances, insurrections, war, and commotions in as diverse places as Germany, Africa, Gaul, Parthia, Britain, and Armenia.

Josephus says that Roman civil wars in this era were so common that he didn't see a need to write about them in detail. The Roman civil wars were especially pronounced between 68-70 when three emperors held the top spot in short order and their rival troops fought it out.

As far as eyes :

Job 31:1

I made a covenant with mine eyes; why then should I think upon a maid?



Psalm 119:37

Turn away mine eyes from beholding vanity; and quicken thou me in thy way.



offend thee.



Mark 9:43

And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

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Posted : 30 Jul, 2019 08:33 PM

More food for thought Parrot!



Secondly, Lazarus is not the Lazarus that was raised from the dead. This is a parable, using Abraham’s bosom and Lazarus. Those names go together. Lazarus is a shortened Hellenized form of Eliezer and his name means, “Whom God helps”. This is the name of the Gentile slave of Abraham. Abraham complained to God that he didn’t have a child, no one to leave an inheritance to… and so he was going to have to leave his inheritance to his Gentile slave from Damascus. (Gen. 5:2-3)

God did give Abraham a child, so the inheritance didn’t go to Eliezer. But God made a promise to Abraham that through his seed, all the nations (families) of the earth would be blessed. All means all, means not just the physical descendants of Abraham, but the Gentiles too.

Lazarus is leaning on the bosom of Abraham. Just like John leaned against the bosom-chest of Jesus, so it is a figure of speech of one reclining at a banquet with Abraham and what he represents: the age of the kingdom after AD 70. It never speaks of it as some compartment of the underworld, rather it presents a picture of the banquet of the kingdom of God.

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Posted : 30 Jul, 2019 09:05 PM

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"As to the Parable of the Rich man and Lazarus:"







“Jesus was not threatening the wealth loving Pharisees with hell fire in the context,{???} but was warning them that the poor, the crippled, the blind and the lame- Lazarus's of the world- were going to recline on the bosom of Abraham in the spiritual feast of the kingdom of God, while they who worshiped their wealth, positions and possessions would find themselves on the outside. "







Mark 9:47,48: Jesus says, "And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the Kingdom of God with on eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into **HELL**, where their worm will not die, and their fire shall not be quenched!"







Our great God and Savior says "I am the way and the **TRUTH**!!"







Luke 16:19-28: Jesus says, "There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus covered with sores and longing to eat what fell from the rich man's table. And the time came when Lazarus died and the angels carried him to Abraham's side.. The rich man also died and was buried. In **HELL** where he was **IN TORMENT**, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus at his side. So he called to him, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am agony in this fire.' But Abraham replied, 'Son, remember in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. And besides all this, between us and you there is a great chasm that has been set in place, so that those who want to come from here to you cannot nor can anyone cross over from there to us..' He answered, 'I beg you , send Lazarus to my family, for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this **PLACE OF TORMENT!'"



Those who interpret this narrative as a true incident have several reasons for doing so. First, the story is never called a parable. Many other of Jesus' stories are designated as parables, such as the sower and the seed (Luke 8:4); the prosperous farmer (Luke 12:16); the barren fig tree (Luke 13:6); and the wedding feast (Luke 14:7). Second, the story of the rich man and Lazarus uses the actual name of a person. Such specificity would set it apart from ordinary parables, in which the characters are not named.



Third, this particular story does not seem to fit the definition of a parable, which is a presentation of a spiritual truth using an earthly illustration. The story of the rich man and Lazarus presents spiritual truth directly, with no earthly metaphor. The setting for most of the story is the afterlife, as opposed to the parables, which unfold in earthly contexts.

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Posted : 31 Jul, 2019 02:12 PM

James, Jesus’ brother, writing from Jerusalem around 48 AD says of the tongue:



It corrupts the whole person, sets the whole course of his life on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell (or, in the Greek, “Gehenna”). - James 3:6

Could this be a similarity with the rich man asking to have his tongue cooled?

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