As bad as Parrot can be. Vindictive no less!, stalking people's profiles to post derogatory things about them to discount what they are saying didn't do that to me...
Even when I didn't agree with him, called him out publicly, told him he needed an exorcism..
When he was a constant internet TROLL..Yes, I called him a troll!!
He never disrespected me and said what I posted was DRIBBLE!
Lets us NOW (finally after all the accusations [unproven] to me) look at this WICKED teaching artless "article" nightmare DRIBBLE in its painting of Scripture doctrine!
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"Not a literal lake"
"The five Bible verses that mention “the lake of fire” show it to be a symbol rather than a literal lake. (Revelation 19:20; 20:10, 14, 15; 21:8) The following are cast into the lake of fire:"
"The Devil. (Revelation 20:10) As a spirit creature, the Devil cannot be harmed by literal fire.—Exodus 3:2; Judges 13:20."
"Death. (Revelation 20:14) This is not a literal entity but represents a state of inactivity, the absence of life. (Ecclesiastes 9:10) Death cannot literally be burned."
“The wild beast” and “the false prophet.” (Revelation 19:20) Since these are symbols, doesn’t it seem reasonable to conclude that the lake they are thrown into is also a symbol?—Revelation 13:11, 12; 16:13."
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Do you see a problem KJVonly and friends when you ACTUALLY read the verses posted with the manmade comments in the artless "article" nightmare DRIBBLE???
READ Rev 19:20, it is symbolic (to a degree) IN THAT chapter but what of 20:10 in the literial description in THAT chapter of "the lake of fire and brimstone" come judgement day of sinners? One chapter is symbolic (to a degree) and one is NOT. Right? If Rev 19:20 is symbolic of "the lake of fire burning with brimstone" then so is "the mark of the beast" in its meaning. See the problem? The mark of the beast is literial and means eventually certain death come judgment day and they who take that mark, will suffer the angel delivered plagues! (Rev 16:2).
"The Devil cannot be harmed by literal fire." stated in the artless"article" nightmare DRIBBLE??? Really now? While it is true angels are "spirit creatures" they are also MORTAL! They were CREATED, not existed for ever! Lol! Please read Exod 3:2, and notice that is says in KJV "the bush burned with fire" but it NEVER says the ANGEL burned with fire!!! Does it? No? Like wise Judg 13:20 it says the ANGEL "ascended in the flame" but the angel did not burn. How close that angel was to the fire is but a guess and this "article" nightmare DRIBBLE is now making a new doctrine that angels can never be burned and never die! I'm sure P7744 would agree with the "article" and it looks like KJVonly does also because she stated she "agreed with the article" on its contents.
Don't understand why the "article" nightmare DRIBBLE has such a problem taking it literially, when they state "This is not a literal entity" of judgment day. Rev 20:14 CLEARLY and LITERALLY states "And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death." Soooo simple just read it plainly! The lake of fire "is not a literal entity" come judgment day when it is made? Really??? So there is no judgment day for continual sinners? Wow! OH boy! Yeah, the lake of fire will certainly be "a state of inactivity", and an "absence of life" in that one day made judgment fire! The wages of sin is death the Bible says! The "article" posts Ecclesiastes 9:10, so lets look at that. So "there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave (hell), whither thou goest." Soooo true because in the grave of hell IS A LITERAL ENTITY of where dead people go when they die! Simple truth. Not what P7744 (Richard) teaches though, he tells the Bible what is truth of where dead people go when they die! Lol!
“The wild beast” and “the false prophet.” (Revelation 19:20) Since these are symbols, doesn’t it seem reasonable to conclude that the lake they are thrown into is also a symbol?—Revelation 13:11, 12; 16:13." Incredible "article" nightmare DRIBBLE, No? Rev 19:20, we already discussed, here the DRIBBLE "article" nightmare wants us to look at it again! Lol! Claiming symbolism once again. Then self reasoning (non Biblical) comes into picture crying - "doesn’t it seem reasonable to conclude that the lake they are thrown into is also a symbol?" Umm NO it doesn't! BECAUSE the verses given speak ONLY of a beast (a power or government) Rev 13:11,12 and yes it speaks of another power beast (verse 11) that makes the people of earth worship the catholic chuch in verse 12. Notice the first beast comes up out of the earth and the catholic church comes up out of the sea (Rev 13:1). Yup lots of symbolism in parts of Revelation and the chapter 16 and verse 13 the "article" nightmare
DRIBBLE they posted but that does not discount the actual literal interpretation of the other Revelation verses that we covered here.
So what do you think friends of the article" nightmare DRIBBLE now?
Did you even read my SCRIPTURE I posted about God being a consuming fire?? Did you read about the end times I just posted somewhere in one of these threads.?
ok back to DRIBBLE..
I had to look it up last night in the urban dictionary. It basically stated that it is someone who needs to shut up and stop speaking bullcrap!!
You called my "artless article" dribble. No, I didn't write it but I agreed with it. God is a consuming fire. The lake of fire is symbolic of destruction. God destroys his enemies before him. See my scriptures posted in the thread, Who cares about hell? that Eliyah started. I also posted them all over other threads just so there is a comparison since Parrot posted about eternal torment.
Why couldn't you be kind? Maybe you need to examine yourself.
I NEVER would have called something you posted , dribble! Where is the humble characteristics ?. Meekness? LOVE??? Patience , kindness , understanding??
Did I call Parrot's posts dribble?? No, I just didn't agree . It is ok to disagree!! Not disrespect people here though.
There is too much name calling on this forum. How is that showing conformity to CHRIST'S CHARACTER?
You have asked me in the past to call out Parrot on things. I call it as I see it and so when you posted about me last night I was shocked actually. Even Parrot didn't treat me like that. He has more respect for me than you apparently.
I only agreed with him when I thought it merited it. I am not ignorant of identifying with the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus in baptism, Teddy. There is the literal one and the one John and Jesus spoke of which is spiritual which was given out at Pentecost.
There were 8 posts about Richard at the same time yesterday from Grace , Eliyah and others...so I broke up the list and added you. Maybe that was wrong and I have to deal with that. But I still think you need to examine yourself Teddy.
If Rev 19:20 is symbolic of "the lake of fire burning with brimstone" then so is "the mark of the beast" in its meaning. See the problem? The mark of the beast is literial and means eventually certain death come judgment day and they who take that mark, will suffer the angel delivered plagues! (Rev 16:2).
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The mark is who you give your authority to. It is carried out with your hands. The law of God was as a frontlet between the eyes of the people in Deuteronomy.
“And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart: And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.” Deuteronomy 6:6–8
Don't you remember Nebuchadnezzer and asking Shadrach , Meshach and Abendnigo to bow down and worship his image.? The Roman Caesars thought they were God on earth.
So the mark was not literally a tracking device inserted under the skin in our modern age (the NEVER ENDING Christian age) like people brainwash the sheeple with on TV now. .
Your quote:
Wow! OH boy! Yeah, the lake of fire will certainly be "a state of inactivity", and an "absence of life" in that one day made judgment fire!
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Yeah , on earth as it is in heaven . I just posted about it ...A.D 70 - God brought destruction to Jerusalem - a literal fire that destroyed the city. Remember, God is a consuming fire! So yes, the city was uninhabited as you stated. The fire Peter (2 Peter 3:7)spoke of was heaven and earth being consumed.2 Peter 3:7 King James Version (KJV)
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
Do you think heaven was burned? I think it means destruction of Jerusalem with literal fire and destruction of the old covenant spiritually . It says that hell and death were cast into the lake of fire also. Jesus took the keys to hell and death when he died. God destroyed satan's hold over the grave with death. So satan was cast into the lake of fire also. God is a consuming spiritual fire. I believe that there was a fire going on in heaven and earth.
O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffic; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
I don't think this is a literal fire.
Yahweh also uses the figurative symbol of fire to plead with sinners and purify them .
As to the burning bush...
Yahweh's fire didn't even harm the bush, so he must consume spiritually, not physically. He did send fiery judgement on Jerusalem through the ROMAN EMPIRE.
Is not my WORD like as a FIRE? saith Yahweh; and like a hammer that breaketh the rock in pieces? Jeremiah 23:29
And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Yahweh is my Elohim. Zechariah 13:9
I am glad now that the word dribble as you keep repeating LIKE A PARROT, initially provoked me to post because it shows your true colors , Teddyhugs..
Need to change your user name because it doesn't suit you very well now unfortunately.
I will continue to pray for your recovery . I am saddened by your attitude. I truly want you well. It's been too long.
“If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat; if he is thirsty, give him water to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head, and the LORD will reward you.” (Proverbs 25:21–22)
Matthew 5:44-45 King James Version (KJV)
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
"Why the website DRIBBLE which is spot on in some places and causes confusion for readers in other places!"
"Use your own words backed by Scripture! Be a student of the WORD. That was a very windy, and some of it confusing of the definitions of "Hell" and "Torment" and WHAT is "Eternal" on that website! Let alone the trash site outside Jerusalem in comparison to it all."
End quote of myself.
Quote of 1st witness Eliyah - "In all fairness he didn't call your post dribble, he said the website you linked to was dribble - big difference."
Wow! Astounding truth from a sharp eye observer, but perhaps you are still claiming self rightousness!
Quote: "Did you even read my SCRIPTURE I posted about God being a consuming fire?? Why couldn't you be kind? Maybe you need to examine yourself."
Of course I did, another assumption of yourself that I did not read it and reading into my post that I was unkind and doctor KJVO says I need an examination! Lol! BUT, here is the problem, the artless "article" nightmare of DRIBBLE contradicts everything you posted IN YOUR OWN WORDS! Got it now? I do not understand why you don't examine yourself? Look at all the things you said about me and all I did was make fun of an artless "article" nightmare of DRIBBLE!
Quote: "I still think you need to examine yourself Teddy"
And why is that? Because I'm making fun of an "article" that is not a PERSON!!!??? Get it now? I need to examine that??? Lol!
What's to examine of a cult teaching artless "article" nightmare of DRIBBLE? I need to repent of exposing it??? LOL!
Quote: "so when you posted about me last night I was shocked actually. Even Parrot didn't treat me like that. He has more respect for me than you apparently"
Are you serious, Parrot personally insults REAL PEOPLE, I make fun of so called educational "articles" of DRIBBLE! So you are selfish when you only look out for yourself in how "parrot" treats you and not Grace! Wow!
Quote: "Did I call Parrot's posts dribble??"
Well I would hope so because his posts are FULL of DRIBBLE! Lol! Nothing wrong with that, he loves disrespecting people, so he craves it back. Ha!
Quote: "I NEVER would have called something you posted , dribble!"
Why not, I'm a big boy! I would not dream things into what you was supposedly thinking, Lol! JUST because you did not like an article I posted. I do not own articles I post, so I don't care what anyone says about them. THEY ARE NOT HUMAN! I'm not speaking to a person!
AGAIN, maybe you actually have your glassses on now - Quote of 1st witness Eliyah - "In all fairness he didn't call your post dribble, he said the website you linked to was dribble - big difference." He is clear isn't he!?
Quote: "Where is the humble characteristics ?. Meekness? LOVE??? Patience , kindness , understanding??"
Really??? To an artless "article" nightmare of DRIBBLE? I need to have those "humble characteristics" when I'm addressing a CULT teaching "artless article" of DRIBBLE that is NOT a person! Lol!
Quote: "You called my "artless article" dribble. No, I didn't write it but I agreed with it."
Oh so now your in love with this so called "article" PAPER of propaganda. Why else would you defend PAPER that is not a PERSON!? That SAME so called "article" of truth contradicts what you post, so it does not love you! Lol! READ again what I last posted and I exposed the false teachings that does NOT agree with what you or I post on the subject! BUT it does P7744! See the problem? If you still agree with it then after reading what I last posted, then there are two of you, because one does not agree with the other! Lol!
Posts this very good verse in Matthew 5:44-45 King James Version (KJV)
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
So claim that verse when KJVonly posted before in this thread. I really need to pray hard now by FAITH when I'm being persecuted like below.
Are you jealous Teddy?
Dribble? Strong words there.
What is confusing to you?
Please enlighten us!
Why shoot the messenger.
Never said a word about the messenger, it was all about the "article" nightmare of DRIBBLE that I was shooting at!
No, nothing to do with the flat earth! I said to you "That is amazing, you read my mind perfectly! How do you do it! What a gift you have!"
In meaning your amazing that you can read my mind perfectly in your self righteous mind, when you said I'm jealous, somehow use "strong words" like Dribble toward you personally (which is a lie) and you claim I'm confused.
Isaiah 66:24: The Lord says, "And they shall go out and look on the dead bodies of the men who have rebelled against me. For their worm will not die, and their fire shall not be quenched!"
Mark 9:47,48: Jesus says, "And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the Kingdom of God with on eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into **HELL**, where their worm will not die, and their fire shall not be quenched!"
Luke 16:19-28: Jesus says, "There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus covered with sores and longing to eat what fell from the rich man's table. And the time came when Lazarus died and the angels carried him to Abraham's side.. The rich man also died and was buried. In **HELL** where he was **IN TORMENT**, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus at his side. So he called to him, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am agony in this fire.' But Abraham replied, 'Son, remember in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. And besides all this, between us and you there is a great chasm that has been set in place, so that those who want to come from here to you cannot nor can anyone cross over from there to us..' He answered, 'I beg you , send Lazarus to my family, for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this **PLACE OF TORMENT!'"
Caligula tried to place his statue in the Jewish temple; the Jews resisted.
In Caesarea, Jews and Syrians went at each others' throats for mastery of the city; 20,000 Jews were put to death. Similar bloodshed occurred in Alexandria and Damascus.
The Jewish rebellion itself took place in 66 AD.
Tacitus in the Annals refers to disturbances, insurrections, war, and commotions in as diverse places as Germany, Africa, Gaul, Parthia, Britain, and Armenia.
Josephus says that Roman civil wars in this era were so common that he didn't see a need to write about them in detail. The Roman civil wars were especially pronounced between 68-70 when three emperors held the top spot in short order and their rival troops fought it out.
September 24, 70 CE (AD) was the day that the dead were resurrected or what we commonly think of as "Judgment Day.
As to the Parable of the Rich man and Lazarus:
“Jesus was not threatening the wealth loving Pharisees with hell fire in the context, but was warning them that the poor, the crippled, the blind and the lame- Lazarus's of the world- were going to recline on the bosom of Abraham in the spiritual feast of the kingdom of God, while they who worshiped their wealth, positions and possessions would find themselves on the outside. "
About plucking out eyes:
Job 31:1
I made a covenant with mine eyes; why then should I think upon a maid?
Psalm 119:37
Turn away mine eyes from beholding vanity; and quicken thou me in thy way.
offend thee.
Mark 9:43
And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
“Jesus was not threatening the wealth loving Pharisees with hell fire in the context, but was warning them that the poor, the crippled, the blind and the lame- Lazarus's of the world- were going to recline on the bosom of Abraham in the spiritual feast of the kingdom of God, while they who worshiped their wealth, positions and possessions would find themselves on the outside. "
