There seems to be some confusion by SOME of what Yah'shua (J_sus) means when He says "turn the other cheek" and "love your enemies." Even here on this forum there appears to be warfare by insults as well as strife and then they become enemies. Where is the love instead of hate that Christians are commanded to do?
Turning the other cheek does not imply pacifism, nor does it mean we place ourselves or others in danger. Simply stated, its meaning is, that Christians must avoid disputing and striving at all cost.
A word about the “slap” that Yah'shua says we should endure. Yah'shua here speaks of personal slights of any kind. The slap (or the “smiting,” as the KJV has it) does not have to involve literal, physical violence. Even in our day, a “slap in the face” is a metaphor for an unexpected insult or offense. Did someone insult you? Let him, Yah'shua says. Are you shocked and offended? Don’t be. And don’t return insult for insult. Turn the other cheek. He addresses the need for true transformation, versus mere rule-keeping. It’s not enough to obey the letter of the law (either moral which is also torah); we must conform to the spirit of the law as well.
Much of the material surrounding Yah'shua’s command to turn the other cheek complements the nature of His coming, which was characterized by mercy, sacrificial love, and longsuffering toward sinners. At the same time, Yah'shua affirms the “last is first” principle upon which the kingdom of Yah is based. For instance, He tells us to go the extra mile for someone who abuses us (Matthew 5:41) and to love and pray for our enemies instead of holding enmity against them (verse 44). In summary, Yah'shua is saying we need to be pure inside and out and as accommodating as possible for the sake of a lost world.
Turning the other cheek, does not mean when a criminal breaks into your home, you are to let him harm you, your family, maybe rape your wife or injure your kids and steal your belongings! REALLY? Some "Christains" actually imply that!!!
One example below, even here on this forum states;
prophetic7744 writes -
"In the OT God ordered Israel to kill their enemies many times and God helped them do it. However in the NT J_sus commands, "Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you. If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also." Luke 6:27-29
Yes He did and for good reason, those enemies were wicked, they break Yah's LAW!
So called "Christians" today that teach "turn the other cheek" and "love your enemies" and do nothing about those that PHYSICALLY harm you are very confused!
The very words of Yah'shua (He IS THE WORD OF YAH you know!) when He said to His 11 Apostles, "If you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." Seems crystal clear to me, we should defend ourselves from PHYSICAL harm, not give the criminal the other cheek! So what IS an enemy really in the context of what Yah'shua was teaching? Is it obvious that He was ONLY speaking of those that VERBALLY persecute, insult you, even call you names (like I have read of others in this Bible topic forum do) that is NOT PHYSICAL harm!
Then prophetic7744 confusion goes on to teach that-
"When you join the military and become a professional killer you must obey all the commands of your commanding officer."
"The only weapons that NT saints may use who follow the New Covenant commands of Jesus is the Sword of the Spirit which is the Word of God. A NT saint would not even think of joining the army of any nation and becoming a professional killer or defending himself with a gun."
Really now! Look up the definition of the words "kill" and "murder" to know the difference. Killing in war is not Murder, you do not personally know nor have met the enemy in war. Murder is true hate. Its premeditated most of the time. So really here is the logic that some "Christians" today teach not to kill the "enemy" (which is also a criminal sometimes but NOT in war!) that is trying to harm you and or your family, your country. They teach you should NOT defend yourself, family or others in harms way, even in war because we are commanded not too. Lol! So its safe to say that that same logic and reasoning applies to Police Officers, that they should "turn the other cheek" if they are NT Christians or do good to those that PHYSICALLY harm you even as a Police officer can with a gun! They really need to take the guns away from those evil Police Officers and teach them to know "if someone strikes them on one cheek, turn to him the other also" when on the job! LOL! What about other countries, nations coming over to harm us in war? "turn the other cheek" and "love your enemies" they would say! How absurd!
Hillarious reasoning but really quite sad that Scripture is misinterpreted in the context of what is really being TAUGHT in the Bible!
Any thoughts on all this reasoning, understanding and study?
John 12:48: Jesus says, "There is a Judge for the one who does not accept My words, the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the Last Day!"
Revelation 2216,18,18: I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give this testimony for the churches.... I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone **ADDS** anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this book {Including eternal hell in Rev 14:9-11}. And if anyone**TAKES WORDS AWAY**{Like *SAD*lup} from this book of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the Tree of Life and iin the Holy City {The New Jerusalem}, which are described in this book!"
These words are part of God's Word and all of God's pastors, teachers, evangelists and prophets are commanded to **PREACH THE WORD**!! And the two **UNPARDONABLE SINS** in Revelation 22:18,19 above are part of God's Word. So if someone teaches on this Christian forum that the words in Revelation are not inspired by God or if they **ADD** or *TAKE WORDS AWAY** from the book of Revelation I have the right to warn that teacher that they may have committed an **UNPARDONABLE SIN**!!
2 Peter 3:10-13: But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will DISAPPEAR with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and *EVERYTHING* in it will be burned up {NIV}. Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives as you {**CHURCH SAINTS*} wait eagerly for the Day of God to come. {NIV} That Day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with His promise **WE** {Excluding *SAD*lup} are looking forward to a New heavens and a New Earth, the home of righteousness.
I Corinthians 15:50--51: I declare to you brothers, that flesh and blood CANNOT INHERIT the *KINGDOM OF GOD*... Listen I tell you a mystery: we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet."
John 18:36: Jesus says, "My *KINGDOM* is not of this world....But now, my Kingdom is from another place!!"
Matthew 25:31-34: Jesus says, "When the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the angels with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people one from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. Then the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!"
**WE** ARE ALL WAITING FOR THE NEW EARTH, THE NEW HEAVENS AND THE HEAVENLY NEW JERUSALEM!!
Revelation 21:1-5: Then I saw a New heaven and a New Earth, for the {present} first heaven and first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the **NEW JERUSALEM**, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and He will live with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes, There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away." He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making **EVERYTHING NEW**!" Then He said, "Write this down, for these words are TRUSTWORTHY and TRUE!"
Now *SAD*lup does not believe in the eternal New Jerusalem with its New Heaven and New Earth as do Jewish Rabbai's and I reminded several times that according to Revelation 22:18,19 it is an **UNPARDONABLE SIN** to **TAKE WORDS AWAY** from the Book of Revelation he said that was garbage. I believe that anyone who teaches the prophecies in the Book of Revelation they should be extremely careful not to **ADD** or **TAKE WORDS AWAY** from the Book of Revelation since it is an **UNPARDONABLE SIN!!
Jewish rabbai's and *SAD*lup believe in the coming of an earthly Kingdom of God where the Jews are again God's holy people and there are again animal sacrices for the foguveness of sin, and that there will be 2 thromes for God the Father and King David. Whereas Revelation 22:3 states that there will be only 2 Thrones in the eternal New Jerusalem for the God the Father and the **LAMB** Jesus Christ our great God and Savior!
Revelation 22:3: The throne of God and of the **LAMB** will be in the City!!
Revelation 3:21: Jesus says, "To him who overcomes, II will give the right to sit with Me on **MY THRONE**, just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne!"
Jewish rabbai's and ^SAD*lup do not believe in the New Jerusalem, which is almost 1400 miles long wide and high, with its New Heaven and New Earth. But most Jewish rabbai's do not know it is an **UNPARDONABLE SIN**. But **SAD*lup knows and yet he still keeps teaching it on a **CHRISTIAN FORUM!!
James 4:17: If anyone knows the good but doesn't do it, **IT IS SIN FOR THEM**!!
John 12:48: Jesus says, "There is a Judge for the one who does not accept My words, the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the Last Day!"
Revelation 2216,18,18: I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give this testimony for the churches.... I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone **ADDS** anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this book {Including eternal hell in Rev 14:9-11}. And if anyone**TAKES WORDS AWAY**{Like *SAD*lup} from this book of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the Tree of Life and iin the Holy City {The New Jerusalem}, which are described in this book!"
These words are part of God's Word and all of God's pastors, teachers, evangelists and prophets are commanded to **PREACH THE WORD**!! And the two **UNPARDONABLE SINS** in Revelation 22:18,19 above are part of God's Word. So if someone teaches on this Christian forum that the words in Revelation are not inspired by God or if they **ADD** or *TAKE WORDS AWAY** from the book of Revelation I have the right to warn that teacher that they may have committed an **UNPARDONABLE SIN**!!
2 Peter 3:10-13: But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will DISAPPEAR with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and *EVERYTHING* in it will be burned up {NIV}. Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives as you {**CHURCH SAINTS*} wait eagerly for the Day of God to come. {NIV} That Day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with His promise **WE** {Excluding *SAD*lup} are looking forward to a New heavens and a New Earth, the home of righteousness.
I Corinthians 15:50--51: I declare to you brothers, that flesh and blood CANNOT INHERIT the *KINGDOM OF GOD*... Listen I tell you a mystery: we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet."
John 18:36: Jesus says, "My *KINGDOM* is not of this world....But now, my Kingdom is from another place!!"
Matthew 25:31-34: Jesus says, "When the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the angels with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people one from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. Then the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!"
**WE** ARE ALL WAITING FOR THE NEW EARTH, THE NEW HEAVENS AND THE HEAVENLY NEW JERUSALEM!!
Revelation 21:1-5: Then I saw a New heaven and a New Earth, for the {present} first heaven and first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the **NEW JERUSALEM**, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and He will live with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes, There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away." He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making **EVERYTHING NEW**!" Then He said, "Write this down, for these words are TRUSTWORTHY and TRUE!"
Now *SAD*lup does not believe in the eternal New Jerusalem with its New Heaven and New Earth as do Jewish Rabbai's and I reminded several times that according to Revelation 22:18,19 it is an **UNPARDONABLE SIN** to **TAKE WORDS AWAY** from the Book of Revelation he said that was garbage. I believe that anyone who teaches the prophecies in the Book of Revelation they should be extremely careful not to **ADD** or **TAKE WORDS AWAY** from the Book of Revelation since it is an **UNPARDONABLE SIN!!
Jewish rabbai's and *SAD*lup believe in the coming of an earthly Kingdom of God where the Jews are again God's holy people and there are again animal sacrices for the foguveness of sin, and that there will be 2 thromes for God the Father and King David. Whereas Revelation 22:3 states that there will be only 2 Thrones in the eternal New Jerusalem for the God the Father and the **LAMB** Jesus Christ our great God and Savior!
Revelation 22:3: The throne of God and of the **LAMB** will be in the City!!
Revelation 3:21: Jesus says, "To him who overcomes, II will give the right to sit with Me on **MY THRONE**, just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne!"
Jewish rabbai's and ^SAD*lup do not believe in the New Jerusalem, which is almost 1400 miles long wide and high, with its New Heaven and New Earth. But most Jewish rabbai's **DO NOT KNOW** it is an **UNPARDONABLE SIN**. But **SAD*LUP KNOWS** **IT IS AN UNPARDONABLE SIN** and yet he still keeps teaching it on a **CHRISTIAN FORUM!!
James 4:17: If anyone knows the good they might do and doesn't do it, **IT IS SIN FOR THEM**!
John 16:12-14: Jesus says, "I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will only speak what he hears, and he will tell you **WHAT IS YET TO COME**. He will glorify Me because it is from Me that he will receive what he will make known to you!"
Now the Greek word **ANGELOS** can be translated **ANGEL** or **MESSENGER** and John the Baptist is called a **MESSENGER** 4 times when the Greek word **ANGELOS** was translated **MESSENGER** instead of **ANGEL**. And of course John the Baptist was not an **ANGEL**.
And the holy spirit inspired John to write *WHAT IS YET TO COME** in Revelation. and is wrongly called an **ANGEL** in Revelation 22:16 when he should have been called a **MESSENGER** and was actually the holy spirit!!
Revelation 2216,18,18: I, Jesus, have sent My **MESSENGER** {The holy spirit} to give this testimony for the churches.... I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone **ADDS** anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this book {Including eternal hell in Rev 14:9-11}. And if anyone**TAKES WORDS AWAY**{Like *SAD*lup} from this book of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The New Jerusalem}, which are described in this book!"
And so the **UNPARDONABLE SINS* mentioned in Revelation 22:18,19 above was actually sins against the holy spirit who was the **MESSENGER** who inspired John to write Revelation 22:18,19!!
