In the Beginning mankind had one instruction; Don't eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. After failing to follow one instruction they were cast out and followed no instructions, no Law. Then because of their "Lawlessness" they were swept away in the Flood. After the Flood, mankind was again given instructions/Law. Mankind again failed to follow them and were cast out on the earth and God made a people for himself through Abraham. They also were given instructions/Law which they didn't follow and were cast out of the Land. When they came back they were so determined to keep Gods instructions and Law that they created instructions and Laws not given by God. Jesus came preaching repentance and a return to keeping God's instructions/Law through and by faith rather than legalism. Followers of Jesus are now split into two groups:
1)Those making up new instructions/Law (Nicene creed and other creeds).
2) Those saying the Law is revoked and embracing "Lawlessness".
WHY DOESN'T ANYONE JUST SIMPLY FOLLOW GOD'S SIMPLE INSTRUCTIONS AS JESUS TAUGHT?
Galatians 3:23-25: "Before faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that **FAITH** has come, *WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!"
Romans 3:21-25: But now a righteousness from God, **APART FROM THE LAW**, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness from God comes **THROUGH FAITH** in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by **HIS GRACE** through the **REDEMPTION** that came by Christ Jesus. God presented Him as a **SACRIFICE OF ATONEMENT**, **THROUGH FAITH IN HIS BLOOD**!!
Ephesians 2:6-19: For it is by grace you are saved, through **FAITH**---and this is **NOT** from yourselves, it is the **GIFT OF GOD**---not by works so that no one can boast. For we are **GOD'S HANDIWORK**, created in Christ Jesus to do **GOOD WORKS**, which God prepared in advance for us to do!!
Titus 2:11-14: For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people. It teaches us to say "No," to ungodliness and worldly passion and to live self-controlled **UPRIGHT AND GODLY LIVES** in this present age, while we wait for the **BLESSED HOPE**--the glorious appearing of our **GREAT GOD AND SAVIOR** Jesus Christ, who gave himself for us to **REDEEM** and to purify Himself a people that are **HIS VERY OWN**, **EAGER TO DO WHAT IS GOOD**!!
**SAD**lup does not believe that Jesus is God and that His blood atones for our sins for if Jesus was just a human being His blood could not make **ATONEMENT FOR OUR SINS**!!
I have been reading many of your posts in other threads and much of what you write is a breath of fresh air in this so called "Christian protestant" world we live in, in these end times. I thought you may be leaving this forum and hoped you would stay and I could encourage you to stay!
We have soooo much to study and I'm so thankful for this forum to do so. I see others judging by your present FAITH instead of just studying it out in love and truth with you! I don't know why that is.
Now I have to admit you come off as being very pushy in your FAITH to others (I don't mind a challenge!) but as for me, my FAITH changes as I learn more truth. And that's what sets me free from ALL denominations that are taken over by the jesuits, which are really the head of the catholic harlot church.
Bottom line is YES we are FREE from the penalty (death)of the perfect Torah law. But of course we keep it by FAITH and with FAITH comes obedience!
I want to be clear, that w are saved by grace through FAITH!
The part I disagree with you on, when reading your many posts, is you do not tell or state the whole "package" of salvation. It confuses people. Now I think you know all of this and assume others do also but a teacher often repeats for the sake that some students may being sleeping in class and missed it all at some point! Ha!
1. We are saved (free gift) by grace (undeserved!) through FAITH, WHEN we are sorry for our sins and repent.
2. What is the definition of sin? Sin is the transgression of the Torah Law (1 John 3:4) Its here some will say but torah law is not stated! Oh really I would reply - Torah LAW was first mentioned in the first books of the Old Testament, the NT confirms this in what was LATER written in it! Does the OT contradict the NT and vise versa? Yah forbid! Wow! Paul goes on to say - I would not
of known sin without the law or stated in Romans 7:7 "What shall we say then? Is the Law sin? Yah forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the Law."
3. So we know we are sinners because Yah's Law says so, identifies transgression of the Torah Law. We realize this by Yah's set apart Holy Spirit that comes from Him when we listen, it is the invisible part of Him. So now what? Do we worship the word "FAITH' to be saved?
Some will say we have "faith in Yah'shua (J_sus) because he is a our sacrifice and we will never be perfect" and stop there but what they are really saying is because Yah'shua was perfect in keeping the Torah Law and we (even after repentance of past sins, becoming a new creature in Him) cannot be perfect, so we have a "license" to keep sinning, breaking the Torah!
That is OUCH doctrine to me!
I say we need the FAITH OF Yah'shua to keep the FAITH of salvation and guess what, Yah's set apart Spirit guides us to being perfect!
Enough with my interpretation and explanation, what does the Bible say about perfection of the Saints?
Yah'shua says - NLT Matt 5:48 "But you are to be perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect."
So we can be perfect (but not by our own power) and Yah'shua would not say we could be perfect when we cannot, now would He?
KJV 2 Timothy 3:17 "That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works."
Oh, so we strive to be perfect and by His power and set apart Spirit, we will do so "unto all good works" then.
Which leads us to the final #4. And what of "works" (The keeping of the perfect Torah Law) and that of FAITH (that comes first) and its perfection?
NASB James 2:22 "You see that faith was working with his works, and as a result of the works, faith was perfected;"
Ok, so our FAITH really proves our works in (living) His perfect Torah Law and makes our FAITH perfected! It really is like a hand and glove! Right?
NASB James 1:25 "But one who looks intently at the perfect law, the law of liberty, and abides by it, not having become a forgetful hearer but an effectual doer, this man will be blessed in what he does."
Ahhhh and finally Torah Law is really of liberty! How can "rules" be liberty? Because it instructs us how to love YAH, others and ourselves! WE are FREE! And FREE from sin (and its penalty - death!) when WE don't break Torah Law!
When we keep Torah Law we are "an effectual doer" of that perfect Torah Law! And as a bonus, WE will be blessed when we keep it! Hallelu-YAH!
"To me; salvation is found in believing and following Christ and doing his teachings."
"The teachings of Jesus did not even make one change in the OT LAW!"???
**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??
**JESUS MADE MANY AMAZING AND TOUGHER CHANGES TO OLD TESTAMENT MARRIAGE AND DIVORCE LAWS**!!
Matthew 5:27,28,31,32 Jesus says, "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall not commit adultery. But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already **COMMITTED ADULTERY** with her in his heart. {This sin of adultery is not mentioned in the OT!!}
This would include pictures or videos of a woman on Television or the Internet or in pornography!!
Matthew 19:3-9: Some Pharisees came to Jesus to test Him. They asked, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?" "Haven't you read," Jesus replied, "That at the beginning the Creator made them male and female' and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife and the two will become one flesh.' So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therfore what God has joined together, let no one separate." Why then the Pharisees asked, did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?" Jesus replied, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because **YOUR HEARTS WERE HARD**, but it was not this way from the beginning. But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery!"
I the Old Testament you could divorce your wife for almost any reason by just giving her a certificate of divorce as per Deuteronomy 24:1,3. Actually it is almost impossible in the New Testament to divorce your wife if she is a believer, since Jesus also said in Matthew 18:22 that you should forgive your brother or wife not 7 times but 77 times which can also be translated 7 times 70 times!!
And according to I Corinthians 7:12-15 you can only divorce an unbelieving wife if she leaves you even though you have been a good husband.
I Corinthians 7:12,13,15: If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, **HE MUST NOT DIVORCE HER**. And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, **SHE MUST NOT DIVORCE HIM**!... But if an unbeliever leaves, let it be so. The brother or the sister is not bound in such circumstances. God has called us to live in peace!
Deuteronomy 24:1: If a man marries a woman who becomes **DISPLEASING TO HIM** because he finds something indecent about her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce, gives it to her and **SENDS HER FROM HIS HOUSE**!
Where as Jesus commands that you can only divorce your wife because of sexual immorality and a man must also forgive his wife from that sin 77 times or 7 times 70 times. And then if the woman is **WILLING TO LIVE WITH HIM** HE MUST NOT DIVORCE HER!!
And Jesus says in Matthew 19:8: "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because **YOUR HEARTS WERE HARD**!!"
In the Old Testament King David had 8 wives and Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines??? But in the New Testament you can have only **ONE WIFE**!!As per I Corinthians 7:2; ! Timothy 3:2,12 and Titus 1:6.
While **SAD**lup teaches that Jesus didn't even make one change to OT Law????
