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Paul is Clearly a Qualified Apostle
Posted : 10 Jun, 2019 10:45 AM

Sadlup, I’m ready to discuss where we left off earlier regarding Paul’s authority as an apostle. I realize you question Paul’s authority but I find no valid justification anywhere that objectly questions his apostolic authority

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Paul is Clearly a Qualified Apostle
Posted : 12 Jun, 2019 08:15 AM

@LittleDavid



"Did Paul change the Law?"



I think not, however from what I see, the vast majority of Christendom thinks Paul did change the Law. Look in this very section; Prophetic, Gracenotworks and Cupcake all seem to follow Paul more than Jesus thinking the Law has been changed.



This is history repeating itself. Christendom is making the same mistakes as Phariscial Judaism thinking they can reinterpret or change the Law. Jesus was none to happy with the Pharisees. Why would he be happy with those following Paul and a changed Law or in some cases 'Lawlessness'?

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Posted : 12 Jun, 2019 12:57 PM

**SAD**lup's ridiculous Satanic quote:



"God and Jesus said the Law would never change in the lifetime of this Creation"????? Then **SAD**lup quotes Matthew 5:17,18:



Matthew 5:17,18: Jesus says, "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I have not come to abolish them but to **FULFILL THEM**. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not he smallest letter, nor the least stroke of the pen will by any means disappear will by any means from the Law **UNTIL EVERYTHING IS ACCOMPLISHED**!"



Actually all the books of the New Testament except for Revelation were inspired by God between AD 42 and AD 65. And then it took about 5 more years for all the books of the New Testament to be received by all the New Testament churches which would have been around AD 70.



Then in AD 70 a very interesting thing took place the Roman Army captured Jerusalem from the Jews and the Jewish Temple was completely destroyed just as Jesus prophesied.



Luke 21:2-4 ;20-24: Some of the disciples were remarking, about how the Temple was adorned with beautiful stones and with gifts dedicated to God. But Jesus said, "As for what you see here, the time will come when not one stone will be on another, every one will be thrown down!!"



And so there have been no animal sacrifices for sin according to OT law for almost 2,000 years since **JESUS **FULFILLED** THIS SACRIFICE FOR SIN" at the cross. And there has been no Jewish Temple or Temple Worship or Temple priests or Temple adornments or altars which were required by over 200 OT Laws!! Out of 613 OT Laws only about 100 are still kept by the Jews. Jesus and the New Testament have eliminated over 500 OT Laws that were **FULFILLED ** when all of God's Word reached all of the NT churches by AD 70. And all of the OT prophecies and the entire New Covenant prophecies were **FULFILLED** with the countless eternal prophecies in Revelation revealed in AD 96!! "*WHEN EVERYTHING WAS ACCOMPLISHED** And **FULFILLED**!!



All the **PASSOVER OT LAWS** were fulfilled when **JESUS BECAME OUR PASSOVER LAMB** And all of the OT Laws about the OT **DAY OF ATONEMENT** were **FULFILLED AND ACCOMPLISHED**when our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ made complete **ATONEMENT FOR OUR SINS**



The **26 **OT LAWS** for Capital Punishment were eliminated by Jesus when He said: Let him who is without sin among you cast the first stone at the woman who was guilty of the Capital Punishment sin of Adultery!



According to OT Law, as per Exodus 31:14, anyone who does **ANY WORK** on the Sabbath **MUST BE PUT TO DEATH**. According to this OT Commandment Jesus and all of His disciples should have been put to death and God's NT commands teach that every day is the Lord's day especially **TODAY**.



Jesus also commands that everyone love and pray for their enemies and offer up the other cheek, instead of many OT commands to kill your enemies!!



Jesus also eliminated the OT commands to keep many oaths by teaching that making any oath is a terrible sin!!



Jesus also contradicting many OT laws by declaring that all foods are now **CLEAN**!!



Mark 7 :18-21: "Are you so dull," Jesus asked, "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make a man unclean? For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." By saying this, Jesus declared all foods **CLEAN**! Then Jesus said, "What comes out of a man is what makes him **UNCLEAN** For from within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, murder, deceit, lewdness, malice, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come from inside, and **MAKE A MAN UNCLEAN**!"



Jesus also changed and improved on the OT Law to love your neighbor as yourself!!



John 13:34,35: A **NEW COMMAND** I give you; Love one another **AS I HAVE LOVED YOU**, so you **MUST** love one another. By this all men will know that you are My Disciples!"



John 15:12-14: Jesus says, "My command is this: Love each other **AS I HAVE LOVED YOU**. Greater love has no one than this: That he lay down his life for his friends. You are My friends if you do what I command!"



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Posted : 12 Jun, 2019 02:15 PM

Prophetic;

-Just STOP!-

No one is reading your miles and miles of Mumbo Jumbo.

Just say what you gotta say withOUT the EXTRA.



You BRAG (just like Paul) about you being a missionary to Israel. Then why is it you talk about Jesus fulling the Spring Festivals (Pesach, First Fruits and Shavuot) yet are utterly clueless about the Fall Feasts??? Have they been fulfilled???

This should be enough for you to realize ALL IS NOT ACCOMPLISHED!



Good grief man, remove your lips from suckling at the breast of your roman catholic church mother and look around.

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Posted : 12 Jun, 2019 02:32 PM

**SAD**lup's ridiculous Satanic quote who hates the New Covenant of **FAITH** and **LOVE**!!



"God and Jesus said the Law would never change in the lifetime of this Creation"????? Then **SAD**lup quotes Matthew 5:17,18 which Jesus said on His **FIRST** sermon.



Matthew 5:17,18: Jesus says, "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I have not come to abolish them but to **FULFILL THEM**. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not he smallest letter, nor the least stroke of the pen will by any means disappear will by any means from the Law **UNTIL EVERYTHING IS ACCOMPLISHED**!"



Actually all the books of the New Testament except for Revelation were inspired by God between AD 42 and AD 65. And then it took about 5 more years for all the books of the New Testament to be received by all the New Testament churches which would have been around AD 70.



Then in AD 70 a very interesting thing took place the Roman Army captured Jerusalem from the Jews and the Jewish Temple was completely destroyed just as Jesus prophesied.



Luke 21:2-4 ;20-24: Some of the disciples were remarking, about how the Temple was adorned with beautiful stones and with gifts dedicated to God. But Jesus said, "As for what you see here, the time will come when not one stone will be on another, every one will be thrown down!!"



And so there have been no animal sacrifices for sin according to OT law for almost 2,000 years since **JESUS **FULFILLED** THIS SACRIFICE FOR SIN" at the cross. And there has been no Jewish Temple or Temple Worship or Temple priests or Temple adornments or altars which were required by over 200 OT Laws!! Out of 613 OT Laws only about 100 are still kept by the Jews. Jesus and the New Testament have eliminated over 500 OT Laws that were **FULFILLED ** when all of God's Word reached all of the NT churches by AD 70. And all of the OT prophecies and the entire New Covenant prophecies were **FULFILLED** with the countless eternal prophecies in Revelation revealed in AD 96!! "*WHEN EVERYTHING WAS ACCOMPLISHED** And **FULFILLED**!!



All the **PASSOVER OT LAWS** were fulfilled when **JESUS BECAME OUR PASSOVER LAMB** And all of the OT Laws about the OT **DAY OF ATONEMENT** were **FULFILLED AND ACCOMPLISHED**when our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ made complete **ATONEMENT FOR OUR SINS**



The **26 **OT LAWS** for Capital Punishment were eliminated by Jesus when He said: Let him who is without sin among you cast the first stone at the woman who was guilty of the Capital Punishment sin of Adultery!



According to OT Law, as per Exodus 31:14, anyone who does **ANY WORK** on the Sabbath **MUST BE PUT TO DEATH**. According to this OT Commandment Jesus and all of His disciples should have been put to death and God's NT commands teach that every day is the Lord's day especially **TODAY**.



Jesus also commands that everyone love and pray for their enemies and offer up the other cheek, instead of many OT commands to kill your enemies!!



Jesus also eliminated the OT commands to keep many oaths by teaching that making any oath is a terrible sin!!



Jesus also contradicting many OT laws by declaring that all foods are now **CLEAN**!!



Mark 7 :18-21: "Are you so dull," Jesus asked, "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make a man unclean? For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." By saying this, Jesus declared all foods **CLEAN**! Then Jesus said, "What comes out of a man is what makes him **UNCLEAN** For from within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, murder, deceit, lewdness, malice, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come from inside, and **MAKE A MAN UNCLEAN**!"



Jesus also changed and improved on the OT Law to love your neighbor as yourself!!



John 13:34,35: A **NEW COMMAND** I give you; Love one another **AS I HAVE LOVED YOU**, so you **MUST** love one another. By this all men will know that you are My Disciples!"



John 15:12-14: Jesus says, "My command is this: Love each other **AS I HAVE LOVED YOU**. Greater love has no one than this: That he lay down his life for his friends. You are My friends if you do what I command!"



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Paul is Clearly a Qualified Apostle
Posted : 12 Jun, 2019 03:01 PM

Prophetic:

HAVE THE FALL FEASTS BEEN FULFILLED????



YES OR NO

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Posted : 12 Jun, 2019 04:48 PM

David, what are the Biblical requireme ts to be considered and apostle / apostello.

In the New Covenant, there are more apostles then the 11 and Paul.

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Posted : 12 Jun, 2019 05:58 PM

@Gracenotworks:

You say there are more than 12 apostles? The Book of Revelation disagrees.

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Posted : 12 Jun, 2019 06:07 PM

**SAD**lup quote:



Prophetic: "HAVE THE FALL FEASTS BEEN FULFILLED???? YES OR NO."



Primarily the Festival of Tabernacles is the "feast of ingathering" in the fall of the year; a festival celebrating the **GREAT HARVEST**. It foretells the coming of the Eternal Kingdom of God!!



I Corinthians 15:20-24: For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be **MADE ALIVE**. But each in turn, Christ, the **FIRSTFRUITS** {At the Feast of *FIRSTFRUITS*}, then, When He comes, those who belong to Him. Then the **END** will come when He hands over the Kingdom to God the Father!!



Matthew 13:37-43: Jesus says, "The one who sowed the good seed is the Son of Man. The field is the world, and the good seed stands for the people of the Kingdom.... The **HARVEST** is the **END** of the age...Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the Kingdom of their Father. Whoever has ears let him hear!"



Revelation 14:14-16: I looked and there before me was a white cloud and seated on the white cloud was the Son of Man with a crown of gold on His head and a sharp sickle in His hand. The another angel came out of the temple and called in a loud voice to Him who was sitting on the cloud. "Take your sickle and reap, because the time to reap has come for the **HARVEST** of the earth is ripe. So He who was sitting on the cloud swung His sickle over the earth, and the earth was **HARVESTED**!!



The Feast of Trumpets is the first day of the *7TH* Bible Month:



Revelation 11:15,18: The *7TH* angel sounded his **TRUMPET** and there were loud voices in heaven, which said: "The kingdom of the world has become the Kingdom of our Lord and His Messiah, and He will reign for ever and ever."... The time has come for judging the dead, and rewarding your servants the prophets and your people who revere your name!



Titus 2:13,14: **WE** wait for the **BLESSED HOPE**--The glorious coming of our **GREAT GOD AND SAVIOR**, Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for us to **REDEEM US** from all wickedness and to purify a people that are His very own, eager to do what is good!!



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Posted : 12 Jun, 2019 06:22 PM

@Prophetic;

I made an exception and read your entire post. Your long answer was; "NO" the Fall Feasts have not been fulfilled. Therefore ALL is not accomplished! Therefore you can no longer stand on Matthew 5:17-18 claiming the Law is passed away because ALL is fulfilled (never mind that heaven and earth are still here).



You now have no choice:

To agree with the Scriptures you must change your theology.

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Posted : 12 Jun, 2019 07:10 PM

When Christ gave us the book of Revelation in AD 96 all the mysteries concerning the harvest at the end of the age at His 2nd Coming when the 7th angel sounds his trumpet; and of our eternal home in the New Jerusalem were **COMPLETED**. And it was an unpardonable sin to **ADD ANYTHING** to these prophecies.



Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches...I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone {Like **SAD**lup} **ADDS ANYTHING** to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this book. And if anyone **TAKES WORDS AWAY** from this book of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the Tree of Life and I the Holy City {The **NEW JERUSALEM**}, which are described in this book!!"



**SAD**lup's ridiculous Satanic quote who hates the New Covenant of **FAITH** and **LOVE** and all the New Covenant Eternal Promises:



"God and Jesus said the Law would never change in the lifetime of this Creation"????? Then **SAD**lup quotes Matthew 5:17,18 which Jesus said on His **FIRST** sermon.



Matthew 5:17,18: Jesus says, "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I have not come to abolish them but to **FULFILL THEM**. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not he smallest letter, nor the least stroke of the pen will by any means disappear will by any means from the Law **UNTIL EVERYTHING IS ACCOMPLISHED**!"



Actually all the books of the New Testament except for Revelation in AD96 were inspired by God between AD 42 and AD 65. And then it took about 5 more years for all the books of the New Testament to be received by all the New Testament churches which would have been around AD 70.



Then in AD 70 a very interesting thing took place the Roman Army captured Jerusalem from the Jews and the Jewish Temple was completely destroyed just as Jesus prophesied.



Luke 21:2-4 ;20-24: Some of the disciples were remarking, about how the Temple was adorned with beautiful stones and with gifts dedicated to God. But Jesus said, "As for what you see here, the time will come when not one stone will be on another, every one will be thrown down!!"



And so there have been no animal sacrifices for sin according to OT law for almost 2,000 years since **JESUS **FULFILLED** THIS SACRIFICE FOR SIN" at the cross. And there has been no Jewish Temple or Temple Worship or Temple priests or Temple adornments or altars which were required by over 200 OT Laws!! Out of 613 OT Laws only about 100 are still kept by the Jews. Jesus and the New Testament have eliminated over 500 OT Laws that were **FULFILLED ** when all of God's Word reached all of the NT churches by AD 70. And all of the OT prophecies and the entire New Covenant prophecies were **FULFILLED** with the countless eternal prophecies in Revelation revealed in AD 96!! "*WHEN EVERYTHING WAS ACCOMPLISHED** And **FULFILLED**!!



All the **PASSOVER OT LAWS** were fulfilled when **JESUS BECAME OUR PASSOVER LAMB** And all of the OT Laws about the OT **DAY OF ATONEMENT** were **FULFILLED AND ACCOMPLISHED**when our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ made complete **ATONEMENT FOR OUR SINS**



The **26 **OT LAWS** for Capital Punishment were eliminated by Jesus when He said: Let him who is without sin among you cast the first stone at the woman who was guilty of the Capital Punishment sin of Adultery! According to OT Law, as per Exodus 31:14, anyone who does **ANY WORK** on the Sabbath **MUST BE PUT TO DEATH**. According to this OT Commandment Jesus and all of His disciples should have been put to death and God's NT commands teach that every day is the Lord's day especially **TODAY**.



Jesus also commands that everyone love and pray for their enemies and offer up the other cheek, instead of many OT commands to kill your enemies!!



Jesus also eliminated the OT commands to keep many oaths by teaching that making any oath is a terrible sin!!



Jesus also contradicting many OT laws by declaring that all foods are now **CLEAN**!!



Mark 7 :18-21: "Are you so dull," Jesus asked, "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make a man unclean? For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." By saying this, Jesus declared all foods **CLEAN**! Then Jesus said, "What comes out of a man is what makes him **UNCLEAN** For from within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, murder, deceit, lewdness, malice, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come from inside, and **MAKE A MAN UNCLEAN**!"



Jesus also changed and improved on the OT Law to love your neighbor as yourself!!



John 13:34,35: A **NEW COMMAND** I give you; Love one another **AS I HAVE LOVED YOU**, so you **MUST** love one another. By this all men will know that you are My Disciples!"



John 15:12-14: Jesus says, "My command is this: Love each other **AS I HAVE LOVED YOU**. Greater love has no one than this: That he lay down his life for his friends. You are My friends if you do what I command!"



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