For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did
Posted : 8 Dec, 2018 01:00 PM
Hebrews 7:11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
Hebrews 7:19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.
Romans 16:7 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
19 For your obedience is come abroad unto all men. I am glad therefore on your behalf: but yet I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple concerning evil.
"spirit filled” Christians or a special class of believers can obtain sinlessness or moral perfection"
Offences contrary to the doctrine of Godliness, and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple only. For their obedience was testified, so they are wise to do good and too obedient to do evil..
3 John 1:11 Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.
"Based on a few hastily selected scriptural pretexts, that at first glance appear to teach sinlessnees in this life, this heresy condones a false “second blessing” perfectionism. This false teaching not only reduces the spotless perfect life lived by Jesus, to something achievable by a “special class” of Christian in this life, it also overlooks the precision of Greek language denoting habitual sinning as opposed to repentance. Although a repentant person is justified immediately (just as if he hadn’t sinned) in the eyes of God in heaven based on the finished work and life of Jesus. However, the doctrine of justification does not make a believer sinless in regard to this earthy life. Otherwise, the biblical teaching (doctrine) of sanctification (making a person holy) is unnecessary."
Sound like good words and a fair speech to anyone? No scripture included, but casts down scriptures in its statement, and asserts of it's own opinion that we cannot live the same life as Christ. Clearly habitual sinning is their way to justify their never ending of sins, or any acknowledgement that sinning is when we hate and hurt our brother, and to fulfil the law(meaning to not transgrdss the law is what sin is) we do it in one word, not many scriptures needed, love your neighbour as yourself, EXACTLY as Christ did, or what do we follow Him in? Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. Answering directly to the non scriptural opinion that the person who repents is not stopping sin in his earthly life, that as told, (scripture is still better than the mans anti scriptural opinion) they who mind earthly things glory in shame and their end is destruction, because the first man is earthly, but the second man is the Lord from Heaven within us and the glory is of the Lord. Otherwise the biblical, (and notice it is scriptures we believe) Christs teaching and fulfilment of sanctification is made void by these peoples wisdom..
Philippians 3:19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)
1 Corinthians 15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.
Romans 8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
John 17:19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
Romans 15:16 That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost.
1 Corinthians 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
2 Timothy 2:21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.
Hebrews 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
Jude 1:1 Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called:
2 Thessalonians 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
1 Peter 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did
Posted : 10 Dec, 2018 09:52 AM
I John 1:6: Whoever claims to live in Him **MUST LIVE AS JESUS DID**!!
John 15:12: Jesus says, "**MY COMMAND** is this: Love each other **AS I HAVE LOVED YOU**!!"
Every born from above saint will try to obey the above two New Covenant commands with all their heart. However, it is obvious that God's saints will fall short of completely obeying the above two commands.
I John 1:8-10: If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned we make Him out to be a liar and His Word is not in us!
Luke 11:1-4: The **DISCIPLES** asked Jesus, "Lord teach as to pray." Jesus replied **TO HIS DISCIPLES**, "When you pray, say: '**FATHER**, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come. Give us each day our **DAILY** bread. **FORGIVE US OUR SINS**, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us!'"
Revelation 3:19: Jesus says, "Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline, so be earnest and **REPENT**!!"
Hebrews 12:5-11: Do not make light of the Lord's discipline, and do not lose heart when He rebukes you, because the Lord disciplines those He loves, and He chastens **EVERYONE** HE ACCEPTS AS A SON**!!! Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as His children. For what children are not disciplined by their father? If you are not disciplined--and everyone undergoes discipline--then you are not legitimate, not true sons and daughters at all. Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live! They disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, in order that we may share in His holiness. No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it!
Since Adam7777 claims that he **NO LONGER SINNED** the moment he was saved; he completely disagrees with the above 3 passages from the inspired Words of God. And since he believes he was completely perfect when he was saved there is no reason for him to want **ETERNAL HEAVENLY REWARDS** for faithful and loving service.
**HOWEVER, GOD'S WORD COMPLETELY DISAGREES WITH HIM**!!
Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, "For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father's glory with His angels and **THEN** He will **REWARD** each person according to what they have done!"
Matthew 5:11,12: Jesus says, �Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your **REWARD** **IN HEAVEN**!�
I Corinthians 9:24-27: Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes in to strict training. They do it to get a **CROWN** that will not last; but we do it to get a **CROWN THAT WILL LAST FOREVER**! Therefore I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize!
Luke 11:33,34: Jesus says, "Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a **TREASURE** IN HEAVEN** that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. For where your **TREASURE** is, there your **HEART** will be also!"
For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did
Posted : 11 Dec, 2018 05:10 AM
Christ was tempted in all ways as we are, He is our example to be without sin, even though learning obedience through what He suffered. He suffered being tempted, FOR WHAT REASON? So He is able to SUCCOUR them who are tempted. God declared He has HEARD us in a time ACCEPTED, AND IN THE DAY OF SALVATION HE HAS SUCCOURED US. HE BEARS THE SINS OF MANY AND UNTO THOSE WHO LOOK FOR HIM HE APPEARS THE SECOND TIME, AS IT IS WITHOUT SIN UNTO SALVATION........... LEARNED FROM CHRISTS FIRST TIME....
Hebrews 2:18 For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.
Hebrews 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
Hebrews 5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;
9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
Hebrews 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
2 Corinthians 6:2 (For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.)
NO OFFENCE FROM THE APOSTLES, NO BLAME, BUT IN ALL THINGS WHAT? APPROVING THEMSELVES IN MUCH PATIENCE, AFFLICTIONS DISTRESSES, TUMULTS, BY PURENESS, BY LONG SUFFERING, AS DYING AND CHASTENED AND NOT KILLED..
2 Corinthians 6:3 Giving no offence in any thing, that the ministry be not blamed:
4 But in all things approving ourselves as the ministers of God, in much patience, in afflictions, in necessities, in distresses,
5 In stripes, in imprisonments, in tumults, in labours, in watchings, in fastings;
6 By pureness, by knowledge, by long suffering, by kindness, by the Holy Ghost, by love unfeigned,
7 By the word of truth, by the power of God, by the armour of righteousness on the right hand and on the left,
8 By honour and dishonour, by evil report and good report: as deceivers, and yet true;
9 As unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and, behold, we live; as chastened, and not killed;
10 As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.
APOSTLE PAUL'S EXAMPLE, BEFORE HE IS EXALTED THROUGH REVELATIONS FROM THE LORD, GOD TELLS PAUL, OUR STRENGTH IS MACE PERFECT THROUGH WEAKNESS, FOR THE POWER OF CHRIST TO REST UPON US, IN INFIRMITIES, REPROACHES, IN PERSECUTIONS, IN DISTRESSES FOR CHRISTS SAKE..
2 Corinthians 12:7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.
8 For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me.
9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
10 Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.
"You can’t have it both ways. Either you’re perfect and don’t need correction or you are imperfect and in need of scourging. "
These are the sufferings of Christ which we are part taker of, the chastisement, the bruising, is the scourging, and when we receive the SAME chastening and the same scourging, it is to fellowship with His sufferings, and yes Christ always was perfect and Christ being God very much always was good, and they with Him are called chosen and faithful always.Revelation 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
Philippians 3:10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
2 Corinthians 1:5 For as the sufferings of Christ abound in us, so our consolation also aboundeth by Christ.
1 Peter 4:13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy
2 Corinthians 4:8 We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair;
9 Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed;
10 Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.
Isaiah 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
Isaiah 53:10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.
Matthew 27:26 Then released he Barabbas unto them: and when he had scourged Jesus, he delivered him to be crucified.
Mark 15:15 And so Pilate, willing to content the people, released Barabbas unto them, and delivered Jesus, when he had scourged him, to be crucified.
John 19:1 Then Pilate therefore took Jesus, and scourged him.
Isaiah 48:10 Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.
2 Corinthians 6:4 But in all things approving ourselves as the ministers of God, in much patience, IN AFFLICTIONS, in necessities, in distresses,
1 Thessalonians 1:6 And ye became followers of us, and of the Lord, HAVING RECEIVED THE WORD IN MUCH AFFLICTIONS, with joy of the Holy Ghost.
2 Thessalonians 1:4 So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and FAITH in all your PERSECUTIONS AND TRIBULATIONS that ye endure:
5 Which is a manifest TOKEN OF THE RIGHTEOUS JUDGEMENT OF GOD, THAT YE MAY BE COUNTED WORTHY OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD, FOR WHICH YE ALSO SUFFER:
Acts 14:22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue IN THE FAITH, and that WE MUST THROUGH MUCH TRIBULATION ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
1 Peter 1:4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
6 Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations:
7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
8 Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:
9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
Isaiah 58:7 Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; AND THAT THOU HIDE NOT THYSELF FROM THINE OWN FLESH?
Galatians 5:14 FOR ALL THE LAW IS FULFILLED IN ONE WORD, EVEN IN THIS; THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR AS THYSELF.
Ephesians 5:29 FOR NO MAN EVER YET HATED HIS OWN FLESH; BUT NOURISHETH AND CHERISHETH IT, EVEN AS THE LORD THE CHURCH:
Hebrews 6:10 For God is not unrighteous to forget YOUR WORK AND LABOUR OF LOVE, WHICH YE HAVE SHEWED TOWARD HIS NAME , IN THAT YE HAVE MINISTERED TO THE SAINTS, AND DO MINISTER.
11 And we desire that every one of you do SHEW THE SAME DILLIGENCE to the full assurance of hope unto the end:
12 THAT YE BE NOT SLOTHFUL, BUT FOLLOWERS OF THEM WHO THROUGH FAITH AND PATIENCE INHERIT THE PROMISES.
Romans 13:8 Owe no man any thing, BUT TO LOVE ANOTHER: FOR HE THAT LOVETH ANOTHER HATH FULFILLED THE LAW.
9 FOR THIS, THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS, THOU SHALT NOT COVET; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR AS THYSELF.
10 LOVE WORKETH NO ILL TO HIS NEIGHBOUR: THEREFORE LOVE IS THE FULFILLING OF THE LAW.
11 And that, knowing the time, that NOW IT IS HIGH TIME TO AWAKE OUT OF SLEEP: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.
12 The night is far spent, the day is at hand: LET US THEREFORE CAST OFF THE WORKS OF DARKNESS, AND LET US PUT ON THE ARMOUR OF LIGHT.
For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did
Posted : 11 Dec, 2018 09:56 AM
I John 1:6: Whoever claims to live in Him **MUST LIVE AS JESUS DID**!!
John 15:12: Jesus says, "**MY COMMAND** is this: Love each other **AS I HAVE LOVED YOU**!!"
Every born from above saint will try to obey the above two New Covenant commands with all their heart. However, it is obvious that God's saints will fall short of completely obeying the above two commands.
While Adam7777 claims to be sinless and **PERFECT** it is interesting to note that Adam7777 has **SEPARATED** from his wife and therefore has not been a **PERFECT SINLESS HUSBAND** for God's word states in Matthew 19:5,6: Jesus says, "A man shall leave his father and mother and be united to his wife and they shall become one flesh, they are no longer two, but one flash. Therefore what God has joined together let no man {Like Adam7777} separate!!"
And so if Adam7777's separated wife is a Christian they are both living continually in sin for we are commanded to forgive our brother or sister or wife in Christ not 7 times but 70 times 7 times! And if Adam7777 married an unsaved woman it is also terrible sin in the NT!!
I John 1:8-10: If we claim to be without sin {Like Adam7777}, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned {Like Adam7777} we make Him out to be a liar and His Word is not in us!
Luke 11:1-4: The **DISCIPLES** asked Jesus, "Lord teach as to pray." Jesus replied **TO HIS DISCIPLES**, "When you pray, say: '**FATHER**, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come. Give us each day our **DAILY** bread. **FORGIVE US OUR SINS**, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us!'"
Revelation 3:19: Jesus says, "Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline, so be earnest and **REPENT**!!"
Hebrews 12:5-11: Do not make light of the Lord's discipline, and do not lose heart when He rebukes you, because the Lord disciplines those He loves, and He chastens **EVERYONE** HE ACCEPTS AS A SON**!!! Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as His children. For what children are not disciplined by their father? If you are not disciplined--and everyone undergoes discipline--**THEN YOU ARE NOT LEGITIMATE**, not true sons and daughters at all. Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live! They disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, in order that we may share in His holiness. No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it!
Since Adam7777 claims that he **NO LONGER SINNED** the moment he was saved; he completely disagrees with the above 3 passages from the inspired Words of God. And since he believes he was completely perfect when he was saved there is no reason for him to want **ETERNAL HEAVENLY REWARDS** for faithful and loving service.
**HOWEVER, GOD'S WORD COMPLETELY DISAGREES WITH HIM**!!
Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, "For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father's glory with His angels and **THEN** He will **REWARD** each person according to what they have done!"
Matthew 5:11,12: Jesus says, �Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your **REWARD** **IN HEAVEN**!�
I Corinthians 9:24-27: Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes in to strict training. They do it to get a **CROWN** that will not last; but we do it to get a **CROWN THAT WILL LAST FOREVER**! Therefore I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize!
Luke 11:33,34: Jesus says, "Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a **TREASURE** IN HEAVEN** that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. For where your **TREASURE** is, there your **HEART** will be also!"
For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did
Posted : 11 Dec, 2018 12:57 PM
Prayerfully is included in the testimony here below, prayer in a time of acceptance in the time of salvation..
"Don’t you have a qualified pastor or teacher you can learn from? As a “perfect” person, surely you would obey scripture commanding believers to meet together and submit to biblically quailed elders.
Do you obey God’s inspired word by meeting together with other believers who can encourage you?
Are you aware there’s a verse that says God has provided some men as pastors and teachers to prepare Gods people for works of service?? Do you know where this verse is found?? Do you believe that **you** have the responsibility to playfully find these men and learn from them??"
Your opinion shows both your way and your teaching is that all people on this planet must listen to yourself and all the self appointed teacher/pastors in this life. Coming together with encouragement in that direction. Insisting we need to LEARN from these men, pastors and teachers.
Now everybody who does see the scripture here, can see with me, God gave the Apostles first, then prophets, then evangelists, and lastly the pastors and teachers. The apostles are gone and the prophets, all that remains are the ones who say they are your pastor and your teacher. But all that was originally given was for the perfecting of the saints, till we all came in the unity of the same faith as those apostles and prophets, unto a perfect man, the measure of the stature of Christ, to be no more carried about by the craftiness of men who wish to teach us, with their winds of doctrine, to deceive, but we grow up into Him in all things....
Ephesians 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
We do not learn Christ as the coveteous Gentiles, as we hear Him and we be taught by Him, it is we who put off the former conversation of the old man, and i we who be renewed in the spirit of our mind, and it is we who put in the new man, created in righteousness and true holiness through God(through no men) an it we who speak truth with our neighbour, for we are the same members as the ones you insist we must learn from..
Ephesians 4:20 But ye have not so learned Christ;
21 If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:
22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
25 Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another.
Hebrews 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
Galatians 1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
1 John 2:26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.
27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
1 Corinthians 4:13 Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day.
14 I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you.
15 For though ye have ten thousand instructers in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.
16 Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.
1 Corinthians 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
"No Adam, Jesus did not need to “scourged@ as a son needing discipline!! You’re abusing the original meaning of scripture.
How is it Adam, that you claiming to be “perfect” and “sinless” continue to misquote scripture, even attributing error to it. Do you understand this is a sin and it a sin of which “perfect” people, such as you, ought not to fall into.
In light of the mounting evidence proving your sinfulness, hope you rethink your “perfectionist” absurdity and agree that only Jesus, not you, is real perfection!!"
Christ was tempted in all ways as we are, He is our example to be without sin, even though learning obedience through what He suffered.� He suffered being tempted, FOR WHAT REASON? So He is able to SUCCOUR them who are tempted. God declared He has HEARD us in a time ACCEPTED, AND IN THE DAY OF SALVATION HE HAS SUCCOURED US. HE BEARS THE SINS OF MANY AND UNTO THOSE WHO LOOK FOR HIM HE APPEARS THE SECOND TIME, AS IT IS WITHOUT SIN UNTO SALVATION........... LEARNED FROM CHRISTS FIRST TIME....
Hebrews 2:18 For in that he himself hath SUFFERED BEING TEMPTED, HE IS ABLE TO SUCCOUR THEM THAT ARE TEMPTED.
Hebrews 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be TOUCHED WITH THE FEELING OF OUR INFIRMITIES; but was IN ALL POINTS TEMPTED LIKE AS WE ARE, YET WITHOUT SIN.
Hebrews 4:16 Let us therefore COME BOLDLY UNTO THE THRONE OF GRACE, that we may obtain mercy, AND FIND GRACE TO HELP IN TIME OF NEED.
Hebrews 5:8 Though he were A SON, yet LEARNED HE OBEDIENCE BY THE THINGS WHICH HE SUFFERED;
9 And being made perfect, HE BECAME THE AUTHOR OF ETERNAL SALVATION UNTO ALL THEM THAT OBEY HIM;
Hebrews 9:28 So Christ was once OFFERED TO BEAR THE SINS OF MANY; and UNTO THEM THAT LOOK FOR HIM SHALL HE APPEAR THE SECOND TIME WITHOUT SIN UNTO SALVATION.
Acts 13:2 And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that THE PROMISE WHICH WAS MADE UNTO THE FATHERS,
33 GOD HATH FULFILLED the same unto us their children, IN THAT HE HATH RAISED UP JESUS AGAIN; as it is also written in the second psalm, THOU ART MY SON, THIS DAY HAVE I BEGOTTEN THEE.
34 And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, NOW NO MORE TO RETURN TO CORRUPTION, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David.
35 Wherefore he saith also in another psalm, THOU SHALT NOT SUFFER THINE HOLY ONE TO SEE CORRUPTION.
36 For David, after he had served his own generation by the will of God, fell on sleep, and was laid unto his fathers, and saw corruption:
37 BUT HE, WHOM GOD RAISED AGAIN, SAW NO CORRUPTION.
2 Corinthians 6:2 (For he saith, I HAVE HEARD THEE IN A TIME ACCEPTED, and IN THE DAY OF SALVATION HAVE I SUCCOURED THEE: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.)
Psalm 49:15 But GOD WILL REDEEM MY SOUL ROM THE POWER OF THE GRAVE: for he shall receive me. Selah.
Psalm 69:13 But as for me, MY PRAYER IS UNTO THEE, O Lord, IN AN ACCEPTABLE TIME: O God, IN THE MULTITUDE OF THY MERCY HEAR ME, IN THE TRUTH OF THY SALVATION.
Psalm 69:18 DRAW NIGH UNTO MY SOUL, AND REDEEM IT: deliver me because of mine enemies.
19 Thou hast known my reproach, and my shame, and my dishonour: mine adversaries are all before thee.
20 Reproach hath broken my heart; and I am full of heaviness: and I looked for some to take pity, but there was none; and for comforters, but I found none.
21 They gave me also gall for my meat; and in my thirst they gave me vinegar to drink.
Psalm 69:29 But I am poor and sorrowful: let thy salvation, O God, set me up on high.
30 I will praise the name of God with a song, and will magnify him with thanksgiving.
31 This also shall please the Lord better than an ox or bullock that hath horns and hoofs.
32 The humble shall see this, and be glad: and your heart shall live that seek God.
33 For the Lord heareth the poor, and despiseth not his prisoners.
34 Let the heaven and earth praise him, the seas, and every thing that moveth therein.
35 For God will save Zion, and will build the cities of Judah: that they may dwell there, and have it in possession.
36 The seed also of his servants shall inherit it: and they that love his name shall dwell therein.
NO OFFENCE FROM THE APOSTLES, NO BLAME, BUT IN ALL THINGS WHAT? APPROVING THEMSELVES IN MUCH PATIENCE, AFFLICTIONS DISTRESSES, TUMULTS, BY PURENESS, BY LONG SUFFERING, AS DYING AND CHASTENED AND NOT KILLED..
2 Corinthians 6:3 GIVING NO OFFENCE IN ANY THING, that the ministry BE NOT BLAMED:
4 But IN ALL THINGS APPROVING OURSELVES as the ministers of God, in much patience, in afflictions, in necessities, in distresses,
5 IN STRIPES, in imprisonments, in tumults, in labours, in watchings, in fastings;
6 BY PURENESS, by knowledge, by LONG SUFFERING, by kindness, by the Holy Ghost, by love unfeigned,
7 By the word of truth, by the power of God, by the armour of righteousness on the right hand and on the left,
8 By honour and dishonour, by evil report and good report: as deceivers, and yet true;
9 As unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and, behold, we live; AS CHASTENED, AND NOT KILLED;
10 As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; AS HAVING NOTHING, AND YET POSSESSING ALL THINGS.
APOSTLE PAUL'S EXAMPLE, BEFORE HE IS EXALTED THROUGH REVELATIONS FROM THE LORD, GOD TELLS PAUL, OUR STRENGTH IS MACE PERFECT THROUGH WEAKNESS, FOR THE POWER OF CHRIST TO REST UPON US, IN INFIRMITIES, REPROACHES, IN PERSECUTIONS, IN DISTRESSES FOR CHRISTS SAKE..
2 Corinthians 12:7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.
8 For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me.
9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather GLORY IN MY INFIRMITIES, THAT THE POWER OF CHRIST MAY REST UPON ME.
10 Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.
"You can’t have it both ways. Either you’re perfect and don’t need correction or you are imperfect and in need of scourging. "
These are the sufferings of Christ which we are part taker of, the chastisement, the bruising, is the scourging, and when we receive the SAME chastening and the same scourging, it is to fellowship with His sufferings, and yes Christ always was perfect and Christ being God very much always was good, and they with Him are called chosen and faithful always.Revelation 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
Philippians 3:10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and THE FELLOWSHIP OF HIS SUFFERINGS, BEING MADE COMFORMABLE UNTO HIS DEATH;
2 Corinthians 1:5 For as THE SUFFERINGS OF CHRIST ABOUND IN US, so our consolation also aboundeth by Christ.
1 Peter 4:13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are PARTAKERS OF CHRIST'S SUFFERINGS; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy
2 Corinthians 4:8 We are TROUBLED ON EVERY SIDE, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair;
9 PERSECUTED, but not forsaken; CAST DOWN, but not destroyed;
10 ALWAYS BEARING ABOUT IN THE BODY THE DYING OF THE LORD JESUS, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.
Isaiah 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was BRUISED for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and WITH HIS STRIPES WE ARE HEALED.
Isaiah 53:10 Yet it pleased the Lord TO BRUISE HIM; he hath PUT HIM TO GRIEF: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.
Matthew 27:26 Then released he Barabbas unto them: and when he had SCOURGED JESUS, he delivered him to be crucified.
Mark 15:15 And so Pilate, willing to content the people, released Barabbas unto them, and delivered Jesus, when he had SCOURGED HIM, TO BE CRUCIFIED.
John 19:1 Then Pilate therefore TOOK JESUS, AND SCOURGED HIM.
Isaiah 48:10 Behold, I HAVE REFINED THEE, but not with silver; I have CHOSEN THEE IN THE FURNACE OF AFFLICTION.
2 Corinthians 6:4 But in all things approving ourselves as the ministers of God, in much patience, IN AFFLICTIONS, in necessities, in distresses,
1 Thessalonians 1:6 And ye became followers of us, and of the Lord, HAVING RECEIVED THE WORD IN MUCH AFFLICTIONS, with joy of the Holy Ghost.
2 Thessalonians 1:4 So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and FAITH in all your PERSECUTIONS AND TRIBULATIONS that ye endure:
5 Which is a manifest TOKEN OF THE RIGHTEOUS JUDGEMENT OF GOD, THAT YE MAY BE COUNTED WORTHY OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD, FOR WHICH YE ALSO SUFFER:
Acts 14:22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue IN THE FAITH, and that WE MUST THROUGH MUCH TRIBULATION ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
1 Peter 1:4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and UNDEFILED, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
5 WHO ARE KEPT BY POWER OF GOD THROUGH FAITH UNTO SALVATION ready to be revealed in the last time.
6 Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are IN HEAVINESS THROUGH MANIFOLD TEMPTATIONS:
7 THAT THE TRIAL OF YOUR FAITH, BEING MUCH MORE PRECIOUS THAN OF GOLD THAT PERISHETH, THOUGH IT BE TRIED WITH FIRE, might be FOUND UNTO praise and HONOUR AND GLORY at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
8 Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:
9 Receiving THE END OF YOUR FAITH, EVEN THE SALVATION OF YOUR SOULS.
Isaiah 58:7 Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; AND THAT THOU HIDE NOT THYSELF FROM THINE OWN FLESH?
Galatians 5:14 FOR ALL THE LAW IS FULFILLED IN ONE WORD, EVEN IN THIS; THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR AS THYSELF.
Ephesians 5:29 FOR NO MAN EVER YET HATED HIS OWN FLESH; BUT NOURISHETH AND CHERISHETH IT, EVEN AS THE LORD THE CHURCH:
Hebrews 6:10 For God is not unrighteous to forget YOUR WORK AND LABOUR OF LOVE, WHICH YE HAVE SHEWED TOWARD HIS NAME , IN THAT YE HAVE MINISTERED TO THE SAINTS, AND DO MINISTER.
11 And we desire that every one of you do SHEW THE SAME DILLIGENCE to the full assurance of hope unto the end:
12 THAT YE BE NOT SLOTHFUL, BUT FOLLOWERS OF THEM WHO THROUGH FAITH AND PATIENCE INHERIT THE PROMISES.
Romans 13:8 Owe no man any thing, BUT TO LOVE ANOTHER: FOR HE THAT LOVETH ANOTHER HATH FULFILLED THE LAW.
9 FOR THIS, THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS, THOU SHALT NOT COVET; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly COMPREHENDED IN THIS SAYING, namely, THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR AS THYSELF.
10 LOVE WORKETH NO ILL TO HIS NEIGHBOUR: THEREFORE LOVE IS THE FULFILLING OF THE LAW.
11 And that, knowing the time, that NOW IT IS HIGH TIME TO AWAKE OUT OF SLEEP: for now is our SALVATION NEARER THAN WHEN WE BELIEVED.
12 The night is far spent, the day is at hand: LET US THEREFORE CAST OFF THE WORKS OF DARKNESS, AND LET US PUT ON THE ARMOUR OF LIGHT.
Ephesians 4:12 FOR THE PERFECTING OF THE SAINTS, for THE WORK OF THE MINISTRY, for THE EDIFYING OF THE BODY OF CHRIST:
13 TILL WE ALL COME IN THE UNITY OF THE FAITH, AND OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE SON OF GOD, UNTO A PERFECT MAN, UNTO THE MEASURE OF THE STATURE OF THE FULLNESS OF CHRIST:
14 That we HENCEFORTH BE NO MORE CHILDREN, tossed to and fro, and CARRIED ABOUT WITH EVERY WIND OF DOCTRINE, BY THE SLEIGHT OF MEN, AND CUNNING CRAFTINESS, WHEREBY THEY LIE IN WAIT TO DECEIVE;
15 BUT SPEAKING THE TRUTH IN LOVE, MAY GROW UP INTO HIM IN ALL THINGS, which is the head, even Christ:
16 FROM WHOM THE WHOLE BODY FITLY FRAMED TOGETHER and compacted by that WHICH EVERY JOINT SUPPLIETH, ACCORDING TO THE EFFECTUAL WORKING IN THE MEASURE OF EVERY PART, maketh increase of the body UNTO THE EDIFYING OF ITSELF IN LOVE.
17 This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye HENCEFORTH WALK NOT AS OTHER GENTILES WALK, IN THE VANITY OF THEIR MIND,
18 Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:
19 WHO BEING PAST FEELING HAVE GIVEN THEMSELVES OVER UNTO LASCIVIOUSNESS, TO WORK ALL UNCLEANNESS WITH GREEDINESS.
TO THE ONES WHO THINK LOVE IS FAILURE, THEY CONFESS THEIR TRUE BELIEF IN WHO CHRIST IS TO THEM, AND OF THEIR GREED FOR REWARDS THEY EXPRESS NON STOP TOO.
2 Peter 3:14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, BE DILLIGENT THAT YE MAY BE FOUND OF HIM IN PEACE, WITHOUT SPOT, AND BLAMELESS.
15 And account that THE LONGSUFFERING OF OUR LORD IS SALVATION; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which THEY THAT ARE UNLEARNED AND UNSTABLE WREST, AS THEY DO ALSO THE OTHER SCRIPTURES, UNTO THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION.
17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, BEWARE lest ye also, BEING LED AWAY WITH THE ERROR OF THE WICKED, fall from YOUR OWN STEDFASTNESS.
18 But GROW IN GRACE, and IN THE KNOWLEDGE OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.
Colossians 3: If ye then BE RISEN WITH CHRIST, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
2 SET YOUR AFFECTIONS ON THINGS ABOVE, NOT ON THINGS ON THE EARTH.
3 FOR YE ARE DEAD, and YOUR LIFE IS HID WITH CHRIST in God.
Romans 6:4 THEREFORE WE ARE BURIED WITH HIM by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even SO WE ALSO SHOULD WALK IN NEWNESS OF LIFE.
5 For if we have been PLANTED TOGEGTHER IN THE LIKENESS OF HIS DEATH, we shall BE ALSO IN THE LIKENESS OF HIS RESURRECTION:
6 Knowing this, that our OLD MAN IS CRUCIFIED WITH HIM, that THE BODY OF SIN might be DESTROYED, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7 FOR HE THAT IS DEAD IS FREED FROM SIN.
8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
10 FOR IN THAT HE DIED, HE DIED UNTO SIN ONCE: BUT IN THAT HE LIVETH, HE LIVETH UNTO GOD.
11 LIKEWISE� RECKON YE ALSO YOURSELVES TO BE DEAD INDEED UNTO SIN, BUT ALIVE UNTO GOD THROUGH JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD.
1 Corinthians 7:12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath A WIFE THAT BELIEVETH NOT. AND SHE BE PLEASED TO DWELL WITH HIM, let him not put her away.
13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
15 BUT IF THE UNBELIEVING DEPART< LET HIM DEPART< A BROTHER OR A SISTER IS NOT UNDER BONDAGE IN SUCH CASES: but God hath called us to peace.
1 John 2:19 THEY WENT OUT FROM US< BUT THEY WERE NOT OF US< FOR IF THEY HAD BEEN OF US, THEY WOULD NO DOUBT HAVE CONTINUED WITH US: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
Micah 7:5 Trust ye not in a friend, put ye not confidence in a guide: KEEP THE DOOR OF THY MOUTH FROM HER THAT LIETH IN THY BOSOM.
Micah 7:6 For the son dishonoureth the father, the daughter riseth up against her mother, the daughter in law against her mother in law; a man's enemies are the men of his own house.
Luke 12:51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; BUT RATHER DIVISION:
52 FOR FROM HENCEFORTH THERE SHALL BE FIVE IN ONE HOUSE DIVIDED, three against two, and two against three.
53 The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:35 FOR I AM COME TO SET A MAN AT VARIANCE against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 AND A MANS FOES SHALL BE THEY OUT OF HIS OWN HOUSEHOLD.
37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and HE THAT LOVETH SON OR DAUGHTER MORE THAN ME IS NOT WORTHY OF ME.
38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
Genesis 22:16 And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the Lord, for BECAUSE THOU HAST DONE THIS THING< AND HAST NOT WITHHELD THY SON< THINE ONLY SON:
17 That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and THY SEED SHALL POSSESS THE GATE OF HIS ENEMY;
18 And in thy seed shall ALL THE NATIONS OF THE EARTH BE BLESSED< BECAUSE THOU HAST OBEYED MY VOICE.
1 Corinthians 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 THE LAST ENEMY THAT SHALL BE DESTROYED IS DEATH.
Hebrews 11:17 BY FAITH ABRAHAM< WHEN HE WAS TRIED< OFFERED UP ISAAC< AND HE THAT HAD RECEIVED THE PROMISES OFFERED UP HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON,
Luke 14:26 IF ANY MAN COME TO ME AND HATE NOT HIS FATHER< AND MOTHER< AND WIFE< AND CHILDREN< AND BRETHREN< AND SISTERS, yea, and his own life also, HE CANNOT BE MY DISCIPLE.
27 And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.
Psalm 69:7 BECAUSE FOR THY SAKE I HAVE BORN REPROACH; shame hath covered my face.
8 I AM BECOME A STRANGER UNTO MY BRETHREN< AND AN ALIEN UNTO MY MOTHER'S CHILDREN.
John 7:5 FOR NEITHER DID HIS BRETHREN BELIEVE IN HIM.
Luke 21:16 AND YE SHALL BE BETRAYED BOTH BY PARENTS< AND BRETHREN< AND KINSFOLKS, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death.
17 AND YE SHALL BE HATED OF ALL MEN FOR MY NAME'S SAKE.
Matthew 24:9 Then shall they DELIVER YOU UP TO BE AFFLICTED, and shall kill you: and YE SHALL BE HATED OF ALL NATIONS FOR MY NAME'S SAKE.
10 And then shall MANY SHALL BE OFFENDED< AND SHALL BETRAY ONE ANOTHER.
Mark 13:12 Now the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the father the son; AND CHILDREN SHALL RISE UP AGAINST THEIR PARENTS< AND SHALL CAUSE THEM TO BE PUT TO DEATH.
13 AND YE SHALL BE HATED OF ALL MEN FOR MY NAME'S SAKE: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Psalm 41:9 Yea, MINE OWN FAMILIAR FRIEND< IN WHOM I TRUSTED, which did eat of my bread, hath LIFTED UP HIS HEEL AGAINST ME.
Psalm 55:12 For it was NOT AN ENEMY THAT REPROACHED ME; THEN I COULD HAVE BORNE IT: neither was it he that hated me that did magnify himself against me; then I would have hid myself from him:
13 BUT IT WAS THOU, a man MINE EQUAL< MY GUIDE, and mine acquaintance.
14 WE TOOK SWEET COUNCEL TOGETHER, and walked unto the house of God in company.
Matthew 26:48 NOW HE THAT BETRAYED HIM GAVE THEM A SIGN, saying, WHOMSOEVER I SHALL KISS, that same is he: hold him fast.
Proverbs 27:6 Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but THE KISSES OF AN ENEMY ARE DECEITFUL.
THE GIFT OF GOD THROUGH JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD, NONE DID GOOD OR SOUGHT AFTER GOD, NOW JUSTIFIED FREELY BY HIS GRACE,� THE REMISSION OF SINS THAT ARE PAST, AND CHRIST IS JUST AND THE JUSTIFIER OF HIM THAT BELIEVETH IN JESUS, AND IF WE SAY WE HAVE NOT SINNED WE LIE, SO WE CONFESS THE SINS THAT ARE PAST AND BE JUSTIFIED..
Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
Romans 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Pray to be forgiven, and when Christ gave His blood that is the forgiveness. Proof of forgiveness is receiving of the Holy Ghost and proof of repentance. Non converted are told beware of cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares, so pray always to be accounted worthy, for that day has come as a snare to ALL THEM WHO DWELL ON THE FACE OF THE WHOLE EARTH..
Luke 21:34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.
35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.
36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
So knowing that the whole world has not heard the warning, they can hear to repent and change none of the things warned above, and then just keep confessing your failings instead of knowing FLAMING FIRE VENGEANCE ON THEM THAT KNOW NOT GOD< HEARING THE DECEIVER SAYING TO BOTH OBEY GOD AND TO DISOBEY ALSO< BUT GOD COMES TO BE GLORIFIED IN HIS SAINTS< SO THEY PRAY THIS FOR US< THAT GOD WOULD COUNT YOU WORTHY OF THIS CALLING< FULFILLING ALL THE GOOD PLEASURE OF HIS GOODNESS< THE WORK OF FAITH NOT WITH LUKEWARM POWER< BUT WITH POWER< BEING GLORIFIED IN CHRIST AND YOU GLORIFIED IN HIM BY GRACE IS HOLINESS..
2 Thessalonians 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.
11 Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power:
12 That the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.
1 Thessalonians 3:13 TO THE END HE MAY STABLISH YOUR HEARTS UNBLAMABLE IN HOLINESS BEFORE GOD, EVEN OUR FATHER, AT THE COMING OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST WITH ALL HIS SAINT.
Revelation 22:10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for THE TIME IS AT HAND.
11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: AND HE THAT IS RIGHTEOUS< LET HIM BE RIGHTEOUS STILL: AND HE THAT IS HOLY< LET HIM BE HOLY STILL.
12 AND BEHOLD< I COME QUICKLY< AND MY REWARD IS WITH ME< TO GIVE EVERY MAN ACCORDING AS HIS WORK SHALL BE.
Revelation 3:1 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I KNOW THY WORKS< THAT THOU HAST A NAME THAT THOU LIVEST< AND ART DEAD.
2 BE WATCHFUL< AND STRENGTHEN THE THINGS WHICH REMAIN< THAT ARE READY TO DIE: FOR I HAVE NOT FOUND YOUR WORKS PERFECT BEFORE GOD.
3 REMEMBER THEREFORE HOW THOU HAST RECEIVED AND HEARD< AND HOLD FAST< AND REPENT. If therefore THOU SHALT NOT WATCH< I WILL COME ON THEE AS A THIEF< AND THOU SHALT NOT KNOW WHAT HOUR I WILL COME UPON THEE.
4 Thou hast A FEW NAMES even in Sardis which HAVE NOT DEFILED THEIR GARMENTS; AND THEY SHALL WALK WITH ME IN WHITE: FOR THEY ARE WORTHY.
5 HE THAT OVERCOMETH, THE SAME SHALL BE CLOTHED IN WHITE RAIMENT, AND I WILL NOT BLOT OUT HIS NAME OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFEe that overcometh, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
6 HE THAT HATH AN EAR, LET HIM HEAR WHAT THE SPIRIT SAITH UNTO THE CHURCHES.
Revelation 4:11 THOU ART WORTHY, O Lord, TO RECEIVE GLORY AND HONOUR AND POWER: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
Revelation 17:13 THESE HAVE ONE MIND, AND SHALL GIVE THEIR POWER AND STRENGTH UNTO THE BEAST.
14 THESE SHALL MAKE WAR WITH THE LAMB, AND THE LAMB SHALL OVERCOME THEM: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: AND THEY THAT ARE WITH HIM ARE CALLED<, AND CHOSEN, AND FAITHFUL.
15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are PEOPLES, AND MULTITUDES, AND NATIONS, AND TONGUES.
16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
17 For GOD HATH PUT IN THEIR HEARTS TO FULFILL HIS WILL, and to agree, AND GIVE THEIR KINGDOM UNTO THE BEAST UNTIL THE WORDS OF GOD SHALL BE FULFILLED.
18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth OVER THE KINGS OF THE EARTH.
1 Corinthians 1:10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye ALL SPEAK THE SAME THING, AND THAT THERE BE NO DIVISIONS AMONG YOU; but that ye BE PERFECTLY JOINED TOGETHER IN THE SAME MIND AND IN THE SAME JUDGEMENT.
Revelation 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon HIM WAS CALLED FAITHFUL AND TRUE, AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE DOTH JUDGE AND MAKE WAR.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And THE ARMIES which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, CLOTHED IN FINE LINEN, WHITE AND CLEAN.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.
17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with WHICH HAD DECEIVED THEM THAT HAD RECEIVED THE MARK OF THE BEAST, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
21 AND ALL THE REMNANT WERE SLAIN WITH THE SWORD OF HIM THAT SAT UPON THE HORSE, WHICH SWORD PROCEEDED OUT OF HIS MOUTH: AND ALL THE FOWLS WERE FILLED WITH THEIR FLESH.
Isaiah 44:20 He feedeth on ashes: A DECEIVED HEART hath TURNED HIM ASIDE, THAT HE CANNOT DELIVER HIS SOUL, NOR SAY, IS THERE NOT A LIE IN MY RIGHT HAND?
Revelation 13:16 AND HE CAUSETH ALL, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, TO RECEIVE A MARK IN THEIR RIGHT HAND, or in their foreheads:
Matthew 13:40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
41 THE SON OF MAN SHALL SEND FORTH HIS ANGELS, AND THEY SHALL GATHER OUT OF HIS KINGDOM,(now His Kingdom is from hence) ALL THINGS THAT OFFEND, AND THEM WHICH DO INIQUITY;
42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Matthew 13:49 So shall it be at the end of the world: THE ANGELS SHALL COME FORTH, AND SEVER THE WICKED FROM AMONG THE JUST,
50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Acts 24:15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be A RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD, BOTH OF THE JUST AND UNJUST.
16 AND HEREIN DO I EXERCISE MYSELF, TO HAVE ALWAYS A CONSCIENCE VOID TO OFFENCE TOWARD GOD, AND TOWARD MEN. ( NOT PRAYING FOR FORGIVENESS FOR HIS LACK OF CONSCIENCE IN CHRIST AND OFFENCE TOWARD BOTH GOD AND MAN)
For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did
Posted : 11 Dec, 2018 01:40 PM
I John 1:6: Whoever claims to live in Him **MUST LIVE AS JESUS DID**!!
John 15:12: Jesus says, "**MY COMMAND** is this: Love each other **AS I HAVE LOVED YOU**!!"
Every born from above saint will try to obey the above two New Covenant commands with all their heart. However, it is obvious that God's saints will fall short of completely obeying the above two commands.
While Adam7777 claims to be sinless and **PERFECT** it is interesting to note that Adam7777 has **SEPARATED** from his wife and therefore has not been a **PERFECT SINLESS HUSBAND** for God's word states in Matthew 19:5,6: Jesus says, "A man shall leave his father and mother and be united to his wife and they shall become one flesh, they are no longer two, but one flash. Therefore what God has joined together let no man {Like Adam7777} separate!!"
And so if Adam7777's separated wife is a Christian they are both living continually in sin for we are commanded to forgive our brother or sister or wife in Christ not 7 times but 70 times 7 times! And if Adam7777 married an unsaved woman it is also terrible sin in the NT!!
I John 1:8-10: If we claim to be without sin {Like Adam7777}, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned {Like Adam7777} we make Him out to be a liar and His Word is not in us!
Luke 11:1-4: The **DISCIPLES** asked Jesus, "Lord teach as to pray." Jesus replied **TO HIS DISCIPLES**, "When you pray, say: '**FATHER**, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come. Give us each day our **DAILY** bread. **FORGIVE US OUR SINS**, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us!'"
James 5:16: **CONFESS YOUR SINS** to each other and pray for each other!!
Psalm 38:18: David said, "I **CONFESS MY SIN**; I am troubled by **MY SIN**!"
Daniel 9:20: Daniel said, "While I was speaking and praying, **CONFESSING MY SIN**!"
Revelation 3:19: Jesus says, "Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline, so be earnest and **REPENT**!!" {**OF YOUR SINS**!!}
Hebrews 12:5-11: Do not make light of the Lord's discipline, and do not lose heart when He rebukes you, because the Lord disciplines those He loves, and He chastens **EVERYONE** HE ACCEPTS AS A SON**!!! Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as His children. For what children are not disciplined by their father {FOR THEIR SINS**}? If you are not disciplined--and everyone undergoes discipline--**THEN YOU ARE NOT LEGITIMATE**, not true sons and daughters at all. Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us{FOR OUR SINS!} and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live! They disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, in order that we may share in His holiness. No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it!
Since Adam7777 claims that he **NO LONGER SINNED** the moment he was saved; he completely disagrees with the above 3 passages from the inspired Words of God. And since he believes he was completely perfect when he was saved there is no reason for him to want **ETERNAL HEAVENLY REWARDS** for faithful and loving service.
**HOWEVER, GOD'S WORD COMPLETELY DISAGREES WITH HIM**!!
Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, "For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father's glory with His angels and **THEN** He will **REWARD** each person according to what they have done!"
Matthew 5:11,12: Jesus says, �Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your **REWARD** **IN HEAVEN**!�
I Corinthians 9:24-27: Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes in to strict training. They do it to get a **CROWN** that will not last; but we do it to get a **CROWN THAT WILL LAST FOREVER**! Therefore I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize!
Luke 11:33,34: Jesus says, "Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a **TREASURE** IN HEAVEN** that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. For where your **TREASURE** is, there your **HEART** will be also!"
For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did
Posted : 11 Dec, 2018 01:41 PM
I John 1:6: Whoever claims to live in Him **MUST LIVE AS JESUS DID**!!
John 15:12: Jesus says, "**MY COMMAND** is this: Love each other **AS I HAVE LOVED YOU**!!"
Every born from above saint will try to obey the above two New Covenant commands with all their heart. However, it is obvious that God's saints will fall short of completely obeying the above two commands.
While Adam7777 claims to be sinless and **PERFECT** it is interesting to note that Adam7777 has **SEPARATED** from his wife and therefore has not been a **PERFECT SINLESS HUSBAND** for God's word states in Matthew 19:5,6: Jesus says, "A man shall leave his father and mother and be united to his wife and they shall become one flesh, they are no longer two, but one flash. Therefore what God has joined together let no man {Like Adam7777} separate!!"
And so if Adam7777's separated wife is a Christian they are both living continually in sin for we are commanded to forgive our brother or sister or wife in Christ not 7 times but 70 times 7 times! And if Adam7777 married an unsaved woman it is also terrible sin in the NT!!
I John 1:8-10: If we claim to be without sin {Like Adam7777}, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned {Like Adam7777} we make Him out to be a liar and His Word is not in us!
Luke 11:1-4: The **DISCIPLES** asked Jesus, "Lord teach as to pray." Jesus replied **TO HIS DISCIPLES**, "When you pray, say: '**FATHER**, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come. Give us each day our **DAILY** bread. **FORGIVE US OUR SINS**, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us!'"
James 5:16: **CONFESS YOUR SINS** to each other and pray for each other!!
Psalm 38:18: David said, "I **CONFESS MY SIN**; I am troubled by **MY SIN**!"
Daniel 9:20: Daniel said, "While I was speaking and praying, **CONFESSING MY SIN**!"
Revelation 3:19: Jesus says, "Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline, so be earnest and **REPENT**!!" {**OF YOUR SINS**!!}
Hebrews 12:5-11: Do not make light of the Lord's discipline, and do not lose heart when He rebukes you, because the Lord disciplines those He loves, and He chastens **EVERYONE** HE ACCEPTS AS A SON**!!! Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as His children. For what children are not disciplined by their father {FOR THEIR SINS**}? If you are not disciplined--and everyone undergoes discipline--**THEN YOU ARE NOT LEGITIMATE**, not true sons and daughters at all. Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us{FOR OUR SINS!} and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live! They disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, in order that we may share in His holiness. No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it!
Since Adam7777 claims that he **NO LONGER SINNED** the moment he was saved; he completely disagrees with the above 3 passages from the inspired Words of God. And since he believes he was completely perfect when he was saved there is no reason for him to want **ETERNAL HEAVENLY REWARDS** for faithful and loving service.
**HOWEVER, GOD'S WORD COMPLETELY DISAGREES WITH HIM**!!
Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, "For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father's glory with His angels and **THEN** He will **REWARD** each person according to what they have done!"
Matthew 5:11,12: Jesus says, �Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your **REWARD** **IN HEAVEN**!�
I Corinthians 9:24-27: Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes in to strict training. They do it to get a **CROWN** that will not last; but we do it to get a **CROWN THAT WILL LAST FOREVER**! Therefore I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize!
Luke 11:33,34: Jesus says, "Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a **TREASURE** IN HEAVEN** that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. For where your **TREASURE** is, there your **HEART** will be also!"
For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did
Posted : 11 Dec, 2018 01:43 PM
I John 1:6: Whoever claims to live in Him **MUST LIVE AS JESUS DID**!!
John 15:12: Jesus says, "**MY COMMAND** is this: Love each other **AS I HAVE LOVED YOU**!!"
Every born from above saint will try to obey the above two New Covenant commands with all their heart. However, it is obvious that God's saints will fall short of completely obeying the above two commands.
While Adam7777 claims to be sinless and **PERFECT** it is interesting to note that Adam7777 has **SEPARATED** from his wife and therefore has not been a **PERFECT SINLESS HUSBAND** for God's word states in Matthew 19:5,6: Jesus says, "A man shall leave his father and mother and be united to his wife and they shall become one flesh, they are no longer two, but one flash. Therefore what God has joined together let no man {Like Adam7777} separate!!"
And so if Adam7777's separated wife is a Christian they are both living continually in sin for we are commanded to forgive our brother or sister or wife in Christ not 7 times but 70 times 7 times! And if Adam7777 married an unsaved woman it is also terrible sin in the NT!!
I John 1:8-10: If we claim to be without sin {Like Adam7777}, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned {Like Adam7777} we make Him out to be a liar and His Word is not in us!
Luke 11:1-4: The **DISCIPLES** asked Jesus, "Lord teach as to pray." Jesus replied **TO HIS DISCIPLES**, "When you pray, say: '**FATHER**, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come. Give us each day our **DAILY** bread. **FORGIVE US OUR SINS**, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us!'"
James 5:16: **CONFESS YOUR SINS** to each other and pray for each other!!
Psalm 38:18: David said, "I **CONFESS MY SIN**; I am troubled by **MY SIN**!"
Daniel 9:20: Daniel said, "While I was speaking and praying, **CONFESSING MY SIN**!"
Revelation 3:19: Jesus says, "Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline, so be earnest and **REPENT**!!" {**OF YOUR SINS**!!}
Hebrews 12:5-11: Do not make light of the Lord's discipline, and do not lose heart when He rebukes you, because the Lord disciplines those He loves, and He chastens **EVERYONE** HE ACCEPTS AS A SON**!!! Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as His children. For what children are not disciplined by their father {FOR THEIR SINS**}? If you are not disciplined--and everyone undergoes discipline--**THEN YOU ARE NOT LEGITIMATE**, not true sons and daughters at all. Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us{FOR OUR SINS!} and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live! They disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, in order that we may share in His holiness. No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it!
Since Adam7777 claims that he **NO LONGER SINNED** the moment he was saved; he completely disagrees with the above 3 passages from the inspired Words of God. And since he believes he was completely perfect when he was saved there is no reason for him to want **ETERNAL HEAVENLY REWARDS** for faithful and loving service.
**HOWEVER, GOD'S WORD COMPLETELY DISAGREES WITH HIM**!!
Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, "For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father's glory with His angels and **THEN** He will **REWARD** each person according to what they have done!"
Matthew 5:11,12: Jesus says, �Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your **REWARD** **IN HEAVEN**!�
I Corinthians 9:24-27: Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes in to strict training. They do it to get a **CROWN** that will not last; but we do it to get a **CROWN THAT WILL LAST FOREVER**! Therefore I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize!
Luke 11:33,34: Jesus says, "Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a **TREASURE** IN HEAVEN** that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. For where your **TREASURE** is, there your **HEART** will be also!"
For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did
Posted : 12 Dec, 2018 02:55 AM
"Adam, do you believe Jesus was scourged as a son because he was like sinful sons of men needing correction? The verse you quoted about sons needing scourging and applied to Jesus is about sons born to sinful men needing correction. It’s not about Jesus!
Adam, do you, as a self-proclaimed perfect and sinless person, submit to the leadership of a biblical church? Why do you not want to answer this question?"
We follow Jesus Christ in all things, read below to see that fairly easily understood. The verses about scourging apply to us needing correction from men, and then the difference in the Lord receiving us is corrected to Holiness from unrighteousness. Suffering is part of that, which we share in the sufferings of Christ, and His suffering and chastisement had nothing to do with sin also.
I do submit to the biblical church:
1 Peter 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;
2 Corinthians 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Ephesians 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
Acts 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
Do you see any of the scriptures below showing we are not sanctified on this earth in preparation for the return of Christ? Or only you are entitled to ask questions?
Prayerfully is included in the testimony here below, prayer in a time of acceptance in the time of salvation..
"Don’t you have a qualified pastor or teacher you can learn from? As a “perfect” person, surely you would obey scripture commanding believers to meet together and submit to biblically quailed elders.
Do you obey God’s inspired word by meeting together with other believers who can encourage you?
Are you aware there’s a verse that says God has provided some men as pastors and teachers to prepare Gods people for works of service?? Do you know where this verse is found?? Do you believe that **you** have the responsibility to playfully find these men and learn from them??"
Your opinion shows both your way and your teaching is that all people on this planet must listen to yourself and all the self appointed teacher/pastors in this life. Coming together with encouragement in that direction. Insisting we need to LEARN from these men, pastors and teachers.
Now everybody who does see the scripture here, can see with me, God gave the Apostles first, then prophets, then evangelists, and lastly the pastors and teachers. The apostles are gone and the prophets, all that remains are the ones who say they are your pastor and your teacher. But all that was originally given was for the perfecting of the saints, till we all came in the unity of the same faith as those apostles and prophets, unto a perfect man, the measure of the stature of Christ, to be no more carried about by the craftiness of men who wish to teach us, with their winds of doctrine, to deceive, but we grow up into Him in all things....
Ephesians 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
We do not learn Christ as the coveteous Gentiles, as we hear Him and we be taught by Him, it is we who put off the former conversation of the old man, and i we who be renewed in the spirit of our mind, and it is we who put in the new man, created in righteousness and true holiness through God(through no men) an it we who speak truth with our neighbour, for we are the same members as the ones you insist we must learn from..
Ephesians 4:20 But ye have not so learned Christ;
21 If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:
22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
25 Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another.
Hebrews 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
Galatians 1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
1 John 2:26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.
27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
1 Corinthians 4:13 Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day.
14 I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you.
15 For though ye have ten thousand instructers in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.
16 Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.
1 Corinthians 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
"No Adam, Jesus did not need to “scourged@ as a son needing discipline!! You’re abusing the original meaning of scripture.
How is it Adam, that you claiming to be “perfect” and “sinless” continue to misquote scripture, even attributing error to it. Do you understand this is a sin and it a sin of which “perfect” people, such as you, ought not to fall into.
In light of the mounting evidence proving your sinfulness, hope you rethink your “perfectionist” absurdity and agree that only Jesus, not you, is real perfection!!"
Christ was tempted in all ways as we are, He is our example to be without sin, even though learning obedience through what He suffered.� He suffered being tempted, FOR WHAT REASON? So He is able to SUCCOUR them who are tempted. God declared He has HEARD us in a time ACCEPTED, AND IN THE DAY OF SALVATION HE HAS SUCCOURED US. HE BEARS THE SINS OF MANY AND UNTO THOSE WHO LOOK FOR HIM HE APPEARS THE SECOND TIME, AS IT IS WITHOUT SIN UNTO SALVATION........... LEARNED FROM CHRISTS FIRST TIME....
Hebrews 2:18 For in that he himself hath SUFFERED BEING TEMPTED, HE IS ABLE TO SUCCOUR THEM THAT ARE TEMPTED.
Hebrews 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be TOUCHED WITH THE FEELING OF OUR INFIRMITIES; but was IN ALL POINTS TEMPTED LIKE AS WE ARE, YET WITHOUT SIN.
Hebrews 4:16 Let us therefore COME BOLDLY UNTO THE THRONE OF GRACE, that we may obtain mercy, AND FIND GRACE TO HELP IN TIME OF NEED.
Hebrews 5:8 Though he were A SON, yet LEARNED HE OBEDIENCE BY THE THINGS WHICH HE SUFFERED;
9 And being made perfect, HE BECAME THE AUTHOR OF ETERNAL SALVATION UNTO ALL THEM THAT OBEY HIM;
Hebrews 9:28 So Christ was once OFFERED TO BEAR THE SINS OF MANY; and UNTO THEM THAT LOOK FOR HIM SHALL HE APPEAR THE SECOND TIME WITHOUT SIN UNTO SALVATION.
Acts 13:2 And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that THE PROMISE WHICH WAS MADE UNTO THE FATHERS,
33 GOD HATH FULFILLED the same unto us their children, IN THAT HE HATH RAISED UP JESUS AGAIN; as it is also written in the second psalm, THOU ART MY SON, THIS DAY HAVE I BEGOTTEN THEE.
34 And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, NOW NO MORE TO RETURN TO CORRUPTION, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David.
35 Wherefore he saith also in another psalm, THOU SHALT NOT SUFFER THINE HOLY ONE TO SEE CORRUPTION.
36 For David, after he had served his own generation by the will of God, fell on sleep, and was laid unto his fathers, and saw corruption:
37 BUT HE, WHOM GOD RAISED AGAIN, SAW NO CORRUPTION.
2 Corinthians 6:2 (For he saith, I HAVE HEARD THEE IN A TIME ACCEPTED, and IN THE DAY OF SALVATION HAVE I SUCCOURED THEE: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.)
Psalm 49:15 But GOD WILL REDEEM MY SOUL ROM THE POWER OF THE GRAVE: for he shall receive me. Selah.
Psalm 69:13 But as for me, MY PRAYER IS UNTO THEE, O Lord, IN AN ACCEPTABLE TIME: O God, IN THE MULTITUDE OF THY MERCY HEAR ME, IN THE TRUTH OF THY SALVATION.
Psalm 69:18 DRAW NIGH UNTO MY SOUL, AND REDEEM IT: deliver me because of mine enemies.
19 Thou hast known my reproach, and my shame, and my dishonour: mine adversaries are all before thee.
20 Reproach hath broken my heart; and I am full of heaviness: and I looked for some to take pity, but there was none; and for comforters, but I found none.
21 They gave me also gall for my meat; and in my thirst they gave me vinegar to drink.
Psalm 69:29 But I am poor and sorrowful: let thy salvation, O God, set me up on high.
30 I will praise the name of God with a song, and will magnify him with thanksgiving.
31 This also shall please the Lord better than an ox or bullock that hath horns and hoofs.
32 The humble shall see this, and be glad: and your heart shall live that seek God.
33 For the Lord heareth the poor, and despiseth not his prisoners.
34 Let the heaven and earth praise him, the seas, and every thing that moveth therein.
35 For God will save Zion, and will build the cities of Judah: that they may dwell there, and have it in possession.
36 The seed also of his servants shall inherit it: and they that love his name shall dwell therein.
NO OFFENCE FROM THE APOSTLES, NO BLAME, BUT IN ALL THINGS WHAT? APPROVING THEMSELVES IN MUCH PATIENCE, AFFLICTIONS DISTRESSES, TUMULTS, BY PURENESS, BY LONG SUFFERING, AS DYING AND CHASTENED AND NOT KILLED..
2 Corinthians 6:3 GIVING NO OFFENCE IN ANY THING, that the ministry BE NOT BLAMED:
4 But IN ALL THINGS APPROVING OURSELVES as the ministers of God, in much patience, in afflictions, in necessities, in distresses,
5 IN STRIPES, in imprisonments, in tumults, in labours, in watchings, in fastings;
6 BY PURENESS, by knowledge, by LONG SUFFERING, by kindness, by the Holy Ghost, by love unfeigned,
7 By the word of truth, by the power of God, by the armour of righteousness on the right hand and on the left,
8 By honour and dishonour, by evil report and good report: as deceivers, and yet true;
9 As unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and, behold, we live; AS CHASTENED, AND NOT KILLED;
10 As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; AS HAVING NOTHING, AND YET POSSESSING ALL THINGS.
APOSTLE PAUL'S EXAMPLE, BEFORE HE IS EXALTED THROUGH REVELATIONS FROM THE LORD, GOD TELLS PAUL, OUR STRENGTH IS MACE PERFECT THROUGH WEAKNESS, FOR THE POWER OF CHRIST TO REST UPON US, IN INFIRMITIES, REPROACHES, IN PERSECUTIONS, IN DISTRESSES FOR CHRISTS SAKE..
2 Corinthians 12:7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.
8 For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me.
9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather GLORY IN MY INFIRMITIES, THAT THE POWER OF CHRIST MAY REST UPON ME.
10 Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.
"You can’t have it both ways. Either you’re perfect and don’t need correction or you are imperfect and in need of scourging. "
These are the sufferings of Christ which we are part taker of, the chastisement, the bruising, is the scourging, and when we receive the SAME chastening and the same scourging, it is to fellowship with His sufferings, and yes Christ always was perfect and Christ being God very much always was good, and they with Him are called chosen and faithful always.Revelation 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
Philippians 3:10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and THE FELLOWSHIP OF HIS SUFFERINGS, BEING MADE COMFORMABLE UNTO HIS DEATH;
2 Corinthians 1:5 For as THE SUFFERINGS OF CHRIST ABOUND IN US, so our consolation also aboundeth by Christ.
1 Peter 4:13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are PARTAKERS OF CHRIST'S SUFFERINGS; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy
2 Corinthians 4:8 We are TROUBLED ON EVERY SIDE, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair;
9 PERSECUTED, but not forsaken; CAST DOWN, but not destroyed;
10 ALWAYS BEARING ABOUT IN THE BODY THE DYING OF THE LORD JESUS, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.
Isaiah 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was BRUISED for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and WITH HIS STRIPES WE ARE HEALED.
Isaiah 53:10 Yet it pleased the Lord TO BRUISE HIM; he hath PUT HIM TO GRIEF: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.
Matthew 27:26 Then released he Barabbas unto them: and when he had SCOURGED JESUS, he delivered him to be crucified.
Mark 15:15 And so Pilate, willing to content the people, released Barabbas unto them, and delivered Jesus, when he had SCOURGED HIM, TO BE CRUCIFIED.
John 19:1 Then Pilate therefore TOOK JESUS, AND SCOURGED HIM.
Isaiah 48:10 Behold, I HAVE REFINED THEE, but not with silver; I have CHOSEN THEE IN THE FURNACE OF AFFLICTION.
2 Corinthians 6:4 But in all things approving ourselves as the ministers of God, in much patience, IN AFFLICTIONS, in necessities, in distresses,
1 Thessalonians 1:6 And ye became followers of us, and of the Lord, HAVING RECEIVED THE WORD IN MUCH AFFLICTIONS, with joy of the Holy Ghost.
2 Thessalonians 1:4 So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and FAITH in all your PERSECUTIONS AND TRIBULATIONS that ye endure:
5 Which is a manifest TOKEN OF THE RIGHTEOUS JUDGEMENT OF GOD, THAT YE MAY BE COUNTED WORTHY OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD, FOR WHICH YE ALSO SUFFER:
Acts 14:22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue IN THE FAITH, and that WE MUST THROUGH MUCH TRIBULATION ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
1 Peter 1:4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and UNDEFILED, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
5 WHO ARE KEPT BY POWER OF GOD THROUGH FAITH UNTO SALVATION ready to be revealed in the last time.
6 Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are IN HEAVINESS THROUGH MANIFOLD TEMPTATIONS:
7 THAT THE TRIAL OF YOUR FAITH, BEING MUCH MORE PRECIOUS THAN OF GOLD THAT PERISHETH, THOUGH IT BE TRIED WITH FIRE, might be FOUND UNTO praise and HONOUR AND GLORY at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
8 Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:
9 Receiving THE END OF YOUR FAITH, EVEN THE SALVATION OF YOUR SOULS.
Isaiah 58:7 Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; AND THAT THOU HIDE NOT THYSELF FROM THINE OWN FLESH?
Galatians 5:14 FOR ALL THE LAW IS FULFILLED IN ONE WORD, EVEN IN THIS; THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR AS THYSELF.
Ephesians 5:29 FOR NO MAN EVER YET HATED HIS OWN FLESH; BUT NOURISHETH AND CHERISHETH IT, EVEN AS THE LORD THE CHURCH:
Hebrews 6:10 For God is not unrighteous to forget YOUR WORK AND LABOUR OF LOVE, WHICH YE HAVE SHEWED TOWARD HIS NAME , IN THAT YE HAVE MINISTERED TO THE SAINTS, AND DO MINISTER.
11 And we desire that every one of you do SHEW THE SAME DILLIGENCE to the full assurance of hope unto the end:
12 THAT YE BE NOT SLOTHFUL, BUT FOLLOWERS OF THEM WHO THROUGH FAITH AND PATIENCE INHERIT THE PROMISES.
Romans 13:8 Owe no man any thing, BUT TO LOVE ANOTHER: FOR HE THAT LOVETH ANOTHER HATH FULFILLED THE LAW.
9 FOR THIS, THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS, THOU SHALT NOT COVET; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly COMPREHENDED IN THIS SAYING, namely, THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR AS THYSELF.
10 LOVE WORKETH NO ILL TO HIS NEIGHBOUR: THEREFORE LOVE IS THE FULFILLING OF THE LAW.
11 And that, knowing the time, that NOW IT IS HIGH TIME TO AWAKE OUT OF SLEEP: for now is our SALVATION NEARER THAN WHEN WE BELIEVED.
12 The night is far spent, the day is at hand: LET US THEREFORE CAST OFF THE WORKS OF DARKNESS, AND LET US PUT ON THE ARMOUR OF LIGHT.
Ephesians 4:12 FOR THE PERFECTING OF THE SAINTS, for THE WORK OF THE MINISTRY, for THE EDIFYING OF THE BODY OF CHRIST:
13 TILL WE ALL COME IN THE UNITY OF THE FAITH, AND OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE SON OF GOD, UNTO A PERFECT MAN, UNTO THE MEASURE OF THE STATURE OF THE FULLNESS OF CHRIST:
14 That we HENCEFORTH BE NO MORE CHILDREN, tossed to and fro, and CARRIED ABOUT WITH EVERY WIND OF DOCTRINE, BY THE SLEIGHT OF MEN, AND CUNNING CRAFTINESS, WHEREBY THEY LIE IN WAIT TO DECEIVE;
15 BUT SPEAKING THE TRUTH IN LOVE, MAY GROW UP INTO HIM IN ALL THINGS, which is the head, even Christ:
16 FROM WHOM THE WHOLE BODY FITLY FRAMED TOGETHER and compacted by that WHICH EVERY JOINT SUPPLIETH, ACCORDING TO THE EFFECTUAL WORKING IN THE MEASURE OF EVERY PART, maketh increase of the body UNTO THE EDIFYING OF ITSELF IN LOVE.
17 This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye HENCEFORTH WALK NOT AS OTHER GENTILES WALK, IN THE VANITY OF THEIR MIND,
18 Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:
19 WHO BEING PAST FEELING HAVE GIVEN THEMSELVES OVER UNTO LASCIVIOUSNESS, TO WORK ALL UNCLEANNESS WITH GREEDINESS.
TO THE ONES WHO THINK LOVE IS FAILURE, THEY CONFESS THEIR TRUE BELIEF IN WHO CHRIST IS TO THEM, AND OF THEIR GREED FOR REWARDS THEY EXPRESS NON STOP TOO.
2 Peter 3:14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, BE DILLIGENT THAT YE MAY BE FOUND OF HIM IN PEACE, WITHOUT SPOT, AND BLAMELESS.
15 And account that THE LONGSUFFERING OF OUR LORD IS SALVATION; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which THEY THAT ARE UNLEARNED AND UNSTABLE WREST, AS THEY DO ALSO THE OTHER SCRIPTURES, UNTO THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION.
17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, BEWARE lest ye also, BEING LED AWAY WITH THE ERROR OF THE WICKED, fall from YOUR OWN STEDFASTNESS.
18 But GROW IN GRACE, and IN THE KNOWLEDGE OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.
Colossians 3: If ye then BE RISEN WITH CHRIST, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
2 SET YOUR AFFECTIONS ON THINGS ABOVE, NOT ON THINGS ON THE EARTH.
3 FOR YE ARE DEAD, and YOUR LIFE IS HID WITH CHRIST in God.
Romans 6:4 THEREFORE WE ARE BURIED WITH HIM by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even SO WE ALSO SHOULD WALK IN NEWNESS OF LIFE.
5 For if we have been PLANTED TOGEGTHER IN THE LIKENESS OF HIS DEATH, we shall BE ALSO IN THE LIKENESS OF HIS RESURRECTION:
6 Knowing this, that our OLD MAN IS CRUCIFIED WITH HIM, that THE BODY OF SIN might be DESTROYED, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7 FOR HE THAT IS DEAD IS FREED FROM SIN.
8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
10 FOR IN THAT HE DIED, HE DIED UNTO SIN ONCE: BUT IN THAT HE LIVETH, HE LIVETH UNTO GOD.
11 LIKEWISE� RECKON YE ALSO YOURSELVES TO BE DEAD INDEED UNTO SIN, BUT ALIVE UNTO GOD THROUGH JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD.
1 Corinthians 7:12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath A WIFE THAT BELIEVETH NOT. AND SHE BE PLEASED TO DWELL WITH HIM, let him not put her away.
13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
15 BUT IF THE UNBELIEVING DEPART< LET HIM DEPART< A BROTHER OR A SISTER IS NOT UNDER BONDAGE IN SUCH CASES: but God hath called us to peace.
1 John 2:19 THEY WENT OUT FROM US< BUT THEY WERE NOT OF US< FOR IF THEY HAD BEEN OF US, THEY WOULD NO DOUBT HAVE CONTINUED WITH US: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
Micah 7:5 Trust ye not in a friend, put ye not confidence in a guide: KEEP THE DOOR OF THY MOUTH FROM HER THAT LIETH IN THY BOSOM.
Micah 7:6 For the son dishonoureth the father, the daughter riseth up against her mother, the daughter in law against her mother in law; a man's enemies are the men of his own house.
Luke 12:51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; BUT RATHER DIVISION:
52 FOR FROM HENCEFORTH THERE SHALL BE FIVE IN ONE HOUSE DIVIDED, three against two, and two against three.
53 The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:35 FOR I AM COME TO SET A MAN AT VARIANCE against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 AND A MANS FOES SHALL BE THEY OUT OF HIS OWN HOUSEHOLD.
37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and HE THAT LOVETH SON OR DAUGHTER MORE THAN ME IS NOT WORTHY OF ME.
38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
Genesis 22:16 And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the Lord, for BECAUSE THOU HAST DONE THIS THING< AND HAST NOT WITHHELD THY SON< THINE ONLY SON:
17 That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and THY SEED SHALL POSSESS THE GATE OF HIS ENEMY;
18 And in thy seed shall ALL THE NATIONS OF THE EARTH BE BLESSED< BECAUSE THOU HAST OBEYED MY VOICE.
1 Corinthians 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 THE LAST ENEMY THAT SHALL BE DESTROYED IS DEATH.
Hebrews 11:17 BY FAITH ABRAHAM< WHEN HE WAS TRIED< OFFERED UP ISAAC< AND HE THAT HAD RECEIVED THE PROMISES OFFERED UP HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON,
Luke 14:26 IF ANY MAN COME TO ME AND HATE NOT HIS FATHER< AND MOTHER< AND WIFE< AND CHILDREN< AND BRETHREN< AND SISTERS, yea, and his own life also, HE CANNOT BE MY DISCIPLE.
27 And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.
Psalm 69:7 BECAUSE FOR THY SAKE I HAVE BORN REPROACH; shame hath covered my face.
8 I AM BECOME A STRANGER UNTO MY BRETHREN< AND AN ALIEN UNTO MY MOTHER'S CHILDREN.
John 7:5 FOR NEITHER DID HIS BRETHREN BELIEVE IN HIM.
Luke 21:16 AND YE SHALL BE BETRAYED BOTH BY PARENTS< AND BRETHREN< AND KINSFOLKS, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death.
17 AND YE SHALL BE HATED OF ALL MEN FOR MY NAME'S SAKE.
Matthew 24:9 Then shall they DELIVER YOU UP TO BE AFFLICTED, and shall kill you: and YE SHALL BE HATED OF ALL NATIONS FOR MY NAME'S SAKE.
10 And then shall MANY SHALL BE OFFENDED< AND SHALL BETRAY ONE ANOTHER.
Mark 13:12 Now the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the father the son; AND CHILDREN SHALL RISE UP AGAINST THEIR PARENTS< AND SHALL CAUSE THEM TO BE PUT TO DEATH.
13 AND YE SHALL BE HATED OF ALL MEN FOR MY NAME'S SAKE: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Psalm 41:9 Yea, MINE OWN FAMILIAR FRIEND< IN WHOM I TRUSTED, which did eat of my bread, hath LIFTED UP HIS HEEL AGAINST ME.
Psalm 55:12 For it was NOT AN ENEMY THAT REPROACHED ME; THEN I COULD HAVE BORNE IT: neither was it he that hated me that did magnify himself against me; then I would have hid myself from him:
13 BUT IT WAS THOU, a man MINE EQUAL< MY GUIDE, and mine acquaintance.
14 WE TOOK SWEET COUNCEL TOGETHER, and walked unto the house of God in company.
Matthew 26:48 NOW HE THAT BETRAYED HIM GAVE THEM A SIGN, saying, WHOMSOEVER I SHALL KISS, that same is he: hold him fast.
Proverbs 27:6 Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but THE KISSES OF AN ENEMY ARE DECEITFUL.
THE GIFT OF GOD THROUGH JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD, NONE DID GOOD OR SOUGHT AFTER GOD, NOW JUSTIFIED FREELY BY HIS GRACE,� THE REMISSION OF SINS THAT ARE PAST, AND CHRIST IS JUST AND THE JUSTIFIER OF HIM THAT BELIEVETH IN JESUS, AND IF WE SAY WE HAVE NOT SINNED WE LIE, SO WE CONFESS THE SINS THAT ARE PAST AND BE JUSTIFIED..
Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
Romans 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Pray to be forgiven, and when Christ gave His blood that is the forgiveness. Proof of forgiveness is receiving of the Holy Ghost and proof of repentance. Non converted are told beware of cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares, so pray always to be accounted worthy, for that day has come as a snare to ALL THEM WHO DWELL ON THE FACE OF THE WHOLE EARTH..
Luke 21:34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.
35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.
36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
So knowing that the whole world has not heard the warning, they can hear to repent and change none of the things warned above, and then just keep confessing your failings instead of knowing FLAMING FIRE VENGEANCE ON THEM THAT KNOW NOT GOD< HEARING THE DECEIVER SAYING TO BOTH OBEY GOD AND TO DISOBEY ALSO< BUT GOD COMES TO BE GLORIFIED IN HIS SAINTS< SO THEY PRAY THIS FOR US< THAT GOD WOULD COUNT YOU WORTHY OF THIS CALLING< FULFILLING ALL THE GOOD PLEASURE OF HIS GOODNESS< THE WORK OF FAITH NOT WITH LUKEWARM POWER< BUT WITH POWER< BEING GLORIFIED IN CHRIST AND YOU GLORIFIED IN HIM BY GRACE IS HOLINESS..
2 Thessalonians 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.
11 Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power:
12 That the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.
1 Thessalonians 3:13 TO THE END HE MAY STABLISH YOUR HEARTS UNBLAMABLE IN HOLINESS BEFORE GOD, EVEN OUR FATHER, AT THE COMING OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST WITH ALL HIS SAINT.
Revelation 22:10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for THE TIME IS AT HAND.
11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: AND HE THAT IS RIGHTEOUS< LET HIM BE RIGHTEOUS STILL: AND HE THAT IS HOLY< LET HIM BE HOLY STILL.
12 AND BEHOLD< I COME QUICKLY< AND MY REWARD IS WITH ME< TO GIVE EVERY MAN ACCORDING AS HIS WORK SHALL BE.
Revelation 3:1 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I KNOW THY WORKS< THAT THOU HAST A NAME THAT THOU LIVEST< AND ART DEAD.
2 BE WATCHFUL< AND STRENGTHEN THE THINGS WHICH REMAIN< THAT ARE READY TO DIE: FOR I HAVE NOT FOUND YOUR WORKS PERFECT BEFORE GOD.
3 REMEMBER THEREFORE HOW THOU HAST RECEIVED AND HEARD< AND HOLD FAST< AND REPENT. If therefore THOU SHALT NOT WATCH< I WILL COME ON THEE AS A THIEF< AND THOU SHALT NOT KNOW WHAT HOUR I WILL COME UPON THEE.
4 Thou hast A FEW NAMES even in Sardis which HAVE NOT DEFILED THEIR GARMENTS; AND THEY SHALL WALK WITH ME IN WHITE: FOR THEY ARE WORTHY.
5 HE THAT OVERCOMETH, THE SAME SHALL BE CLOTHED IN WHITE RAIMENT, AND I WILL NOT BLOT OUT HIS NAME OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFEe that overcometh, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
6 HE THAT HATH AN EAR, LET HIM HEAR WHAT THE SPIRIT SAITH UNTO THE CHURCHES.
Revelation 4:11 THOU ART WORTHY, O Lord, TO RECEIVE GLORY AND HONOUR AND POWER: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
Revelation 17:13 THESE HAVE ONE MIND, AND SHALL GIVE THEIR POWER AND STRENGTH UNTO THE BEAST.
14 THESE SHALL MAKE WAR WITH THE LAMB, AND THE LAMB SHALL OVERCOME THEM: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: AND THEY THAT ARE WITH HIM ARE CALLED<, AND CHOSEN, AND FAITHFUL.
15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are PEOPLES, AND MULTITUDES, AND NATIONS, AND TONGUES.
16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
17 For GOD HATH PUT IN THEIR HEARTS TO FULFILL HIS WILL, and to agree, AND GIVE THEIR KINGDOM UNTO THE BEAST UNTIL THE WORDS OF GOD SHALL BE FULFILLED.
18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth OVER THE KINGS OF THE EARTH.
1 Corinthians 1:10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye ALL SPEAK THE SAME THING, AND THAT THERE BE NO DIVISIONS AMONG YOU; but that ye BE PERFECTLY JOINED TOGETHER IN THE SAME MIND AND IN THE SAME JUDGEMENT.
Revelation 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon HIM WAS CALLED FAITHFUL AND TRUE, AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE DOTH JUDGE AND MAKE WAR.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And THE ARMIES which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, CLOTHED IN FINE LINEN, WHITE AND CLEAN.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.
17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with WHICH HAD DECEIVED THEM THAT HAD RECEIVED THE MARK OF THE BEAST, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
21 AND ALL THE REMNANT WERE SLAIN WITH THE SWORD OF HIM THAT SAT UPON THE HORSE, WHICH SWORD PROCEEDED OUT OF HIS MOUTH: AND ALL THE FOWLS WERE FILLED WITH THEIR FLESH.
Isaiah 44:20 He feedeth on ashes: A DECEIVED HEART hath TURNED HIM ASIDE, THAT HE CANNOT DELIVER HIS SOUL, NOR SAY, IS THERE NOT A LIE IN MY RIGHT HAND?
Revelation 13:16 AND HE CAUSETH ALL, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, TO RECEIVE A MARK IN THEIR RIGHT HAND, or in their foreheads:
Matthew 13:40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
41 THE SON OF MAN SHALL SEND FORTH HIS ANGELS, AND THEY SHALL GATHER OUT OF HIS KINGDOM,(now His Kingdom is from hence) ALL THINGS THAT OFFEND, AND THEM WHICH DO INIQUITY;
42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Matthew 13:49 So shall it be at the end of the world: THE ANGELS SHALL COME FORTH, AND SEVER THE WICKED FROM AMONG THE JUST,
50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Acts 24:15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be A RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD, BOTH OF THE JUST AND UNJUST.
16 AND HEREIN DO I EXERCISE MYSELF, TO HAVE ALWAYS A CONSCIENCE VOID TO OFFENCE TOWARD GOD, AND TOWARD MEN. ( NOT PRAYING FOR FORGIVENESS FOR HIS LACK OF CONSCIENCE IN CHRIST AND OFFENCE TOWARD BOTH GOD AND MAN)
Littledavid calls all the testimony that does not lie heresy, I never said I was perfect or without sin, it is up to God to judge us all, but the accusers have no defence, as for what they call heresy:
Acts 24:14 BUT THIS I CONFESS UNTO THEE, THAT AFTER THE WAY WHICH THEY CALL HERESY, SO WORSHIP I THE GOD OF MY FATHERS, BELIEVING ALL THINGS WHICH ARE WRITTEN in the law and in the prophets:
1 Corinthians 9:21 To them that are without law, as without law, (BEING NOT WITHOUT LAW TO GOD, BUT UNDER THE LAW TO CHRIST,) that I might gain them that are without law.
Galatians 6:2 BEAR YE one another's burdens, AND SO FULFILL THE LAW OF CHRIST.
God has not warned about people trying to do all perfectly, God has warned about the OPPOSITE, people against the doctrine of godliness who think you are wrong to give Gods word of HOLINESS..
1 Peter 4:1 Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for HE THAT HATH SUFFERED IN THE FLESH HATH CEASED FROM SIN;
2 That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God.
3 For the time past of our life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries:
4 WHEREIN THEY THINK IT STRANGE THAT YE RUN NOT WITH THEM TO THE SQAME EXCESS OF RIOT, SPEAKING EVIL OF YOU:
Jude 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before OF OLD ORDAINED TO THIS CONDEMNATION, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
2 Timothy 3:This know also, that IN THE LAST DAYS PERILOUS TIMES SHALL COME.
2 FOR MEN SHALL BE LOVERS OF THEIR OWN SELVES, COVETOUS, BOASTERS, PROUD, BLASPHEMERS, DISOBEDIENT to parents, unthankful, UNHOLY,
3 Without natural affection, TRUCEBREAKERS, FALSE ACCUSERS, INCONTINENT(NO SELF CONTROL), FIERCE, DESPISERS OF those that are GOOD,
4 TRAITORS, HEADY, HIGHMINDED, LOVERS OF PLEASURES more than lovers of God;
5 Having A FORM OF GODLINESS, but DENYING THE POWER thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women LADEN WITH SINS, led away WITH DIVERS LUSTS,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do THESE ALSO RESIST THE TRUTH: men of CORRUPT MINDS, REPROBATE concerning the faith.
9 But they shall proceed no further: for THEIR FOLLY SHALL BE MANIFEST unto all men, as their's also was.
10 But thou hast fully known MY DOCTRINE, MANNER OF LIFE, PURPOSE, FAITH, LONGSUFFERING, CHARITY, PATIENCE,
11 PERSECUTIONS, AFFLICTIONS, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; WHAT PERSECUTIONS I ENDURED: but out of them all the Lord delivered me.
12 Yea, and ALL THAT WILL LIVE GODLY IN CHRIST JESUS SHALL SUFFER PERSECUTION.
13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did
Posted : 12 Dec, 2018 05:20 AM
I John 1:6: Whoever claims to live in Him **MUST LIVE AS JESUS DID**!!
John 15:12: Jesus says, "**MY COMMAND** is this: Love each other **AS I HAVE LOVED YOU**!!"
Every born from above saint will try to obey the above two New Covenant commands with all their heart. However, it is obvious that God's saints will fall short of completely obeying the above two commands.
While Adam7777 claims to be sinless and **PERFECT** it is interesting to note that Adam7777 has **SEPARATED** from his wife and therefore has not been a **PERFECT SINLESS HUSBAND** for God's word states in Matthew 19:5,6: Jesus says, "A man shall leave his father and mother and be united to his wife and they shall become one flesh, they are no longer two, but one flash. Therefore what God has joined together let no man {Like Adam7777} separate!!"
And so if Adam7777's separated wife is a Christian they are both living continually in sin for we are commanded to forgive our brother or sister or wife in Christ not 7 times but 70 times 7 times! And if Adam7777 married an unsaved woman it is also terrible sin in the NT!!
I John 1:8-10: If we claim to be without sin {Like Adam7777}, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned {Like Adam7777} we make Him out to be a liar and His Word is not in us!
Luke 11:1-4: The **DISCIPLES** asked Jesus, "Lord teach as to pray." Jesus replied **TO HIS DISCIPLES**, "When you pray, say: '**FATHER**, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come. Give us each day our **DAILY** bread. **FORGIVE US OUR SINS**, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us!'"
James 5:16: **CONFESS YOUR SINS** to each other and pray for each other!!
Psalm 38:18: David said, "I **CONFESS MY SIN**; I am troubled by **MY SIN**!"
Daniel 9:20: Daniel said, "While I was speaking and praying, **CONFESSING MY SIN**!"
Revelation 3:19: Jesus says, "Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline, so be earnest and **REPENT**!!" {**OF YOUR SINS**!!}
Hebrews 12:5-11: Do not make light of the Lord's discipline, and do not lose heart when He rebukes you, because the Lord disciplines those He loves, and He chastens **EVERYONE** HE ACCEPTS AS A SON**!!! Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as His children. For what children are not disciplined by their father {FOR THEIR SINS**}? If you are not disciplined--and everyone undergoes discipline--**THEN YOU ARE NOT LEGITIMATE**, not true sons and daughters at all. Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us{FOR OUR SINS!} and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live! They disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, in order that we may share in His holiness. No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it!
Since Adam7777 claims that he **NO LONGER SINNED** the moment he was saved; he completely disagrees with the above 3 passages from the inspired Words of God. And since he believes he was completely perfect when he was saved there is no reason for him to want **ETERNAL HEAVENLY REWARDS** for faithful and loving service.
**HOWEVER, GOD'S WORD COMPLETELY DISAGREES WITH HIM**!!
Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, "For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father's glory with His angels and **THEN** He will **REWARD** each person according to what they have done!"
Matthew 5:11,12: Jesus says, �Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your **REWARD** **IN HEAVEN**!�
I Corinthians 9:24-27: Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes in to strict training. They do it to get a **CROWN** that will not last; but we do it to get a **CROWN THAT WILL LAST FOREVER**! Therefore I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize!
Luke 11:33,34: Jesus says, "Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a **TREASURE** IN HEAVEN** that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. For where your **TREASURE** is, there your **HEART** will be also!"
For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did
Posted : 12 Dec, 2018 09:38 AM
Thanks mr david you confirmed you do not answer questions, so you must be more correct than the one who answers questions for you. But answering for you, not one of those scriptures showed how we are not sanctified and prepared before the return of Christ.
"Adam is commanded by Jesus to ask forgiveness as he forgives others per the Lord’s Prayer. But Adam disagrees with God and insists he is perfect and sinless. "
False statement, we are taught to ask for forgiveness before Christ forgave us on the cross, then receiving the Holy Spirit are not the same as when we cannot cease from sin as per the first covenant that is replaced and perfect now.
"Adam erroneously selects passages of scripture, that seem to Adam, to teach Christians do not sin when they become Christians. But these passages teach that true Christians do not “continue” or “abide” in their sin as an unbroken practice in the same way they used to practice sin before they were saved. "
Other lie, as david clearly does not even read the scriptures I studied to give all teachings from God for our learning and comfort, he also lies to say what the passages say, without going into any detail of them whatsoever, a token of� deceiver.
"Adam also ignores passages of scripture that clearly teach sin will have less and less influence in the lives of true Christians as they grow in Christ but they will never be totally free from the influence of sin in this life until they die."
Other lie, how do I ignore what david does not attempt to even show? This person says the scriptures clearly show what his opinion says, and does not show them for that clarity, if not this guy would show what he claims and insists a person is in a corner when it is him that is cornered.
"Paul discusses this battle between the Christian and his indwelling sin in Romans 7. "
Now this deceiver mentions a scripture, which is his mistake, as now he will be reminded of Romans 7 AND Romans 8 TOGETHER.
WE WERE IN THE FLESH(SPEAKING OF OUR PAST TENSE) BRINGING FRUIT TO DEATH, BUT NOW(NOW IT IS PRESENT TENSE CHANGED BY THE SPIRIT) SERVING IN NEWNESS OF SPIRIT(NOT IN OLDNESS ANY MORE THIS IS THE NEW TIME AND CHANGE)...
Romans 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
Paul continues of the PAST. PAUL WAS ALIVE WITHOUT THE LAW AND THE COMMANDMENT CAME TO SIN NOT, AND HE DIED, AS PAUL IS SPEAKING ABOUT US ALL DYING IN SINS. THE COMMANDMENT TO SIN NOT GAVE DEATH TO US ALL AS WE COULD NOT OBEY IT IN THE FIRST COVENANT. BUT THE LAW IS HOLY AND GOOD. UNABLE TO OBEY THE COMMAND TO SIN NOT AND LOVE OUR NEIGHBOUR, CAUSING DEATH FOR DISOBEDIENCE BY THE GOOD LAW OF GOD, AS THE LAW IS SPIRITUAL BUT MAN IS CARNAL. WE WOULD OBEY GOD BUT CANT FIND THE STRENGTH TO DO IT, (THE JEWS ARE EXAMPLE OF THIS STILL IN ORIGINAL FIRST COVENANT TODAY) WE WOULD RATHER NOT DO THE SINS IN THAT FIRST COVENANT CONSENTING THAT IT IS A GOOD JUST LAW, SIN DWELLING IN US INSTEAD OF THE NEW COVENANT OF GOD DWELLING IN US BY THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND HOW TO PERFORM WE FOUND NOT, DOING EVIL THAT WE WANT TO NOT DO, BRINGING US TO CAPTIVITY TO THE LAW OF SIN IN THE MEMBERS BELONGING TO THAT FIRST FAULTY COVENANT. WRETCHED AND NEEDING TO BE DELIVERED FROM THAT BODY OF DEATH?
Romans 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.
14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
PRESENT TENSE, THERE IS THEREFORE NOW NO CONDEMNATION, AS BEFORE THERE IS CONDEMNATION, IN CHRIST JESUS WE WALK NOT AFTER THE FLESH, NOW FREE FROM THAT LAW OF SIN AND DEATH, WE WERE WEAK THROUGH THE FLESH, AND CHRIST CONDEMNED SIN IN THE FLESH, AND NOW THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE LAW OF CHRIST IS FULFILLED N US, (Galatians 6:2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.) SOME ARE AFTER THE FLESH AND THEY DO ALL WAYS OF THE FLESH AND OTHERS ARE AFTER THE SPIRIT AND THEY DO THE THINGS OF THE SPIRIT, EACH OBEYS WITHOUT STRUGGLE TO THEIR MASTERS, SIN OR UNRIGHTEOUSNESS, AND CARNALLY MINDED IS DEATH, WHICH NEVER CAN OBEY THE LAW OF GOD, THOSE NOT SPIRIT CANNOT PLEASE GOD OBEYING HIS RIGHT WAYS, AND IF CHRIST IS IN YOU, YOUR BODY IS DEAD BECAUSE OF SIN, FOR IF YOU LIVE AFTER THE FLESH YOU SHALL DIE, AS EXPLAINED ALREADY IN ROMANS 7, OR THROUGH THE SPIRIT DO MORTIFY(MAKE DEAD ND FINISHED) THE DEEDS OF YOUR BODY..
Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 AND IF CHRIST IS IN YOU, THE BODY IS DEAD BECAUSE OF SIN; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
IN CORRECT ORDER IS ROMANS 6 FIRST, EXPLAINING AS ALL SAYS, YE YIELDED COMPLETELY YOUR BODY TO ONLY UNCLEANNESS AND INIQUITY, NOW YOU CHANGED COMPLETELY TO YIELD THEM TO RIGHTEOUSNESS TO HOLINESS. WHEN SERVING SIN IN THE FIRST COVENANT YOU HAVE ZERO RIGHTEOUSNESS. NO FRUIT AT ALL AND NOW ASHAMED NOW CONFESSING AND NEVER ENDING THE EVIL. NOW CHRIST MAKES US FREE FROM THAT SIN TO SERVE GOD AND INSTEAD OF EVIL FRUIT IT IS FRUIT FIT FOR GOD(A GOOD TREE CANT HAVE EVIL FRUIT ND AN EVIL TREE CANT HAVE GOOD FRUIT) ...
Romans 6:19 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.
20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.
21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.
22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
WALK IN THE SPIRIT TO NOT STRUGGLE IN THE FLESH WHEN UNABLE TO DO THE THINGS WE WOULD BEING CARNAL IN THE FIRST COVENANT CURSED IS HE WHO CONTINUES NOT IN ALL THE WORDS OF THE LAW TO DO THEM. WE CANNOT DO THE THINGS WE WOULD, AS FLESH AND SPIRIT ARE CONTRARY TO EACH OTHER, WE CAN ONLY BE AND SERVE ONE, THEY WHO DO THOSE WORKS OF THE FLESH WILL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD, BUT TEMPERANCE LONGSUFFERING AND LOVE BREAKS NO LAW AND THEY WHO ARE CHRISTS HAVE CRUCIFIED THEIR BODY FLESH WITH ALL AND NY AFFECTIONS AND LUSTS..
Galatians 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Dear children walk in love, uncleanness fornication covetousness is not named once among saints, as those men have no inheritence in the Kingdom of Christ, deceivers try to insist they do, but the church is sanctified and cleansed, by the Holy word, and only presented to Christ in glory without spot or blemish but is HOLY..
Ephesians 5:Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;
2 And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.
3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
Ephesians 5:26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be HOLY AND WITHOUT BLEMISH.
