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Contradictions found in the translations, but not found in the Greek Scriptures
Posted : 10 Nov, 2018 01:17 PM

Hello everyone;

Yes the truthseeker is at it one more time, making the people to THINK about what they believe.



Within the translations there are a few contradictions not found within the Greek manuscripts. During the process of translating from Greek into English many errors have occurred thus called Translation errors.

These errors are the result of differences in word meanings, phrases or sayings according to the language and culture of a particular people group.

Some errors are the result of personal prejudices by those interpreting the Word of GOD Almighty, some of these are either personal, financial or positional.

Here is one such verse of Scripture that is a contradiction in the English translations, BUT not in the Greek.

John 15 verses 1-2

1"I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. 2"Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away; and every [branch] that bears fruit, He prunes it so that it may bear more fruit.

Notice in verse 2 "Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes AWAY, some translations have CUTS OFF.

Many people teaching on this teach that GOD Almighty will cut you off if your life does not bear fruit, hmmm.

When you cut something off does that not denote separation;

Does GOD Almighty actually separate from Messiah the branch that is in Him, IF so then that person cannot be saved.

The contradiction is revealed by the Word of GOD Almighty.

John 3 verses 14- 18

14"As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up; 15 so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life.

16"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. 17"For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him. 18"He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

And Romans 8 verses 1

1Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.

Since there is NO condemnation to those believing in Messiah, and being in Messiah, why then would GOD Almighty CUT anyone off.

The contradiction is the result of a single English word having been added to the translations, which is not in the Greek manuscripts; That English word is AWAY.

With the addition of the word AWAY, the Word has been changed from being one of encouragement / Grace, to one of judgement.

Those which teach that GOD Almighty cuts a person off actually are teaching FALSELY, thus misrepresenting the character of GOD Almighty.

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Posted : 12 Nov, 2018 05:45 PM

**THE TOPIC IS THE INTERPRETATION OF THE FOLLOWING WORDS OF GOD**:



John 15:1-3: Jesus says, "I am the True Vine, and My Father is the gardener. He **CUTS OFF** (OR TAKES AWAY} every branch in Me that bears **NO FRUIT**, while every branch that does **BEAR FRUIT** He prunes so that it will be even more fruitful. You {**WHO BEAR FRUIT**} are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you!"



John 15:16: Jesus says, You did not choose Me, but I **CHOSE YOU**and appointed you so that you might bear **FRUIT**--**FRUIT** that will last!!



Adam7777 believes that if you even commit one sin or don't bear any fruit that you will **LOSE YOUR SALVATION**??



While prophetic7744 believes that those who **FALL AWAY** and never produce any **FRUIT** were never saved in the first place and are **CUT OFF**!!



While gracenotworkssaves believes that those who profess to be saved and **FALL AWAY** should not be **CUT OFF**??



Matthew 13:20-23: Jesus says, "The seed falling on the rocky ground refers to someone who hears the word and at once receives it with joy. But since they have no root, they last only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, they quickly fall away. The seed falling among the thorns refers to someone who hears the word, but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth choke the word, making it **UNFRUITFUL**. But the seed falling on good soil refers to someone who hear the and understands it. this is the one who produces a crop, yielding a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown!!"



Ephesians 2:8,9: For it is by **GRACE** you have been saved, through **FAITH**�and this **NOT FROM YOURSELVES**, it is the **GIFT OF GOD**�not by works. So that no one can boast. For we are **GOD'S WORKMANSHIP**, created in Christ Jesus to do **GOOD WORKS**, which God prepared in advance for us to do!



Revelation 17:14: They will make war against the **LAMB** but the **LAMB** will overcome them because He is **LORD** of lords and **KING** of kings and with Him will be His **CALLED** **CHOSEN** and **FAITHFUL** followers!! {Riding on white horses right after the Marriage Feast of the **LAMB** as per Revelation 19:7-20!}



And so those who are **CALLED** **CHOSEN and **FAITHFUL** produce **MUCH FRUIT**!! And those who are not **CALLED** CHOSEN** AND **FAITHFUL** will **FALL AWAY and **BE CUT OFF**!!



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Posted : 13 Nov, 2018 05:26 AM

"**HOWEVER, WE ARE COMMANDED TO WALK AS JESUS WALKED {SEE JOHN 2:6} AND TO BE HOLY AS GOD IS HOLY, WHICH IS IMPOSSIBLE, AND SO WE SIN DAILY. AND WE SHOULD **DAILY** ASK GOD TO FORGIVE US OUR SINS AND PURIFY US FROM ALL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS**!!"



More is said than what this statement gives. If we say we know Him, we lie, unless we know, we do not know Him until we keep His commandments. This perfects the love of God inside of us. Does it make sense for anyone to say they are abiding in Christ, but that they find it impossible to walk as Jesus walked? So again, if we say we are in the light of the Lord, we are in darkness if we hate our brother. He who loves his brother has no stumbling being perfected in the Lords love to his brother, they abide in that light of the Lord..



1 John 2:6 4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.



5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.



6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.



9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.



10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him







It is true that God commands us to be holy, but that we cannot be holy as He is holy? Why does Go have to tell us and how us what is right for us to do, and then someone can say we cant do it, and they are right for that?



Righteousness cannot fellowship with unrighteousness, and as just told, light has nothing to do with darkness. Christ has nothing to do with those unrighteous work of the devil, can you say you know Him and abide in darkness and not walking as He walked? If we say that we are the temple of God, does that temple in us have anything to do with idols, serving coveteousness? What is told is to stop those actions, or the wrath of God comes on children who are not obedient keeping His words. e walked in them, now we say we walk in Christ and abide in Him and Him in us?



Colossians 3:5 Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:

6 For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:



7 In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them.



2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?



15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?



16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.



Let all filthiness and evil be put away from us, and to be kind one to another, forgiving the ones who still walk in these ways...



Ephesians 4:31 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:



32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.



To indeed walk as Christ walked, it is told to walk in love(this prophetic thinks he can undo everything but has all down on his head) Christ loved us, we follow His love, and fornication and uncleaness and idolatry with is coveteousness is not named once among saints. Neiher foolishness or filthiness, as no whooremonger unclean person coveteous man who is an idolater(prophetic confesses he is these things) has any inheritence in the Kingdom of Christ and God(although he tells u to seek rewards and crowns) let not that deceiver deceive you with vain words, for all those who walk in them and do not walk as Christ walked(as he concludes his on opinion that it is impossible and all the words here are vanity)� but the wrath of God comes on all who believe they can do them and be forgiven, so do not be parttakers with them, as now if you want to be light in the Lord, WALK |AS CHILDREN of LIGHT(and walk in LOVE) as somtimes before you were in darkness hating your brother and stumbling, but none occasion of stumbling in the one who walks in love and light and loves his brother. For the fruit of the spirit is what? In ALL goodness, no badness,



Ephesians 5:2 And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.



3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;



4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.



5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.



6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.



7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.



8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:



9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)





Teaching to keep the commandments of Christ and turning back to say it is impossible.



Jesus teaches us that all the law is fulfilled in loving our neighbour as ourselves. His commandmernts are not grevous, they are easy to walk in love, as love works no ill to your neighbour.



1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.



Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.



Romans 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.



9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.



10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.





The preaching without contention is Christ and Him crucified, when it is only on seeking what we receive, that preaching was never done..



Philippians 1:16 The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds:



1 Corinthians 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;



1 Corinthians 2:2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.





"**SALVATION IS 100% FREE**







Titus 3:3,4: At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another. But when the kindness and **LOVE** of God our Savior appeared , He saved us, **NOT BECAUSE OF RIGHTEOUS THINGS WE HAD DONE**, but because of **HIS MERCY**!!







John 1:12,13: To all who received Him, to those who believed in His name, he gave the right to become children of God--children born not of natural descent, **NOR OF A HUMAN DECISION** or a husband's will but, **BORN OF GOD**!!"



Saved us from foolish disobedience, hating our brother, and the opinion is we cannot walk in love as Jesus walked in light, which is still foolishness, and for us to still be in our filth shows we received nothing.





To all who received |Him, and BORN OF GOD. To include scripture of being born again, which is all old passed away, and if we are born of the spirit let us walk in the spirit, as that which is flesh is flesh and that which is spirit, is spirit. How is anything completely changed and now spirit, if it has changed nothing and walks in the flesh the same as before?



Galatians 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.



John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.



1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.





"Adam7777 believes that if you even commit one sin or don't bear any fruit that you will **LOSE YOUR SALVATION**??







While prophetic7744 believes that those who **FALL AWAY** and never produce any **FRUIT** were never saved in the first place and are **CUT OFF**!!"





Does it matter what I believe. I believe the ones who fall away were never saved. Regarding commit sin..



Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.



20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.



Luke 16:10 He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much.



James 2:8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:



9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.



10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.



11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.



12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.



13 For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.



Hebrews 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.



2 Corinthians 7:10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.

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Posted : 13 Nov, 2018 06:52 AM

**THE TOPIC IS THE INTERPRETATION OF THE FOLLOWING WORDS OF GOD**:



John 15:1-3: Jesus says, "I am the True Vine, and My Father is the gardener. He **CUTS OFF** (OR TAKES AWAY} every branch in Me that bears **NO FRUIT**, while every branch that does **BEAR FRUIT** He prunes so that it will be even more fruitful. You {**WHO BEAR FRUIT**} are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you!"



John 15:16: Jesus says, You did not choose Me, but I **CHOSE YOU**and appointed you so that you might bear **FRUIT**--**FRUIT** that will last!!



Adam7777 believes that if you even commit one sin or don't bear any fruit that you will **LOSE YOUR SALVATION**?? Adam7777 also teaches that you do not receive any **ETERNAL HEAVENLY REWARDS** for your faithful loving service and fruit.



While prophetic7744 believes that those who **FALL AWAY** and never produce any **FRUIT** were never saved in the first place and are **CUT OFF**!!



While gracenotworkssaves believes that those who profess to be saved and **FALL AWAY** should not be **CUT OFF**??



Matthew 13:20-23: Jesus says, "The seed falling on the rocky ground refers to someone who hears the word and at once receives it with joy. But since they have no root, they last only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, they quickly fall away. The seed falling among the thorns refers to someone who hears the word, but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth choke the word, making it **UNFRUITFUL**. But the seed falling on good soil refers to someone who hear the and understands it. this is the one who produces a crop, yielding a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown!!"



Ephesians 2:8,9: For it is by **GRACE** you have been saved, through **FAITH**�and this **NOT FROM YOURSELVES**, it is the **GIFT OF GOD**�not by works. So that no one can boast. For we are **GOD'S WORKMANSHIP**, created in Christ Jesus to do **GOOD WORKS**, which God prepared in advance for us to do!



Revelation 17:14: They will make war against the **LAMB** but the **LAMB** will overcome them because He is **LORD** of lords and **KING** of kings and with Him will be His **CALLED** **CHOSEN** and **FAITHFUL** followers!! {Riding on white horses right after the Marriage Feast of the **LAMB** as per Revelation 19:7-20!}



And so those who are **CALLED** **CHOSEN and **FAITHFUL** produce **MUCH FRUIT**!! And those who are not **CALLED** CHOSEN** AND **FAITHFUL** will **FALL AWAY and **BE CUT OFF**!!



More Satanic quotes by Adam7777:



"The ones born of God therefore, **SIN NOT**"{???} Adam7777 also claims that we are completely sanctified and **NO LONGER SIN** the very moment we are saved.{???}



Joyce Meyer also claims that she **NO LONGER SINS** in this taped message:



�I�m going to tell you something folks, I didn�t stop sinning until I finally got it through my thick head I wasn�t a sinner anymore. And the religious world thinks that�s heresy and they want to hang you for it. But the Bible says that I�m righteous and I can�t be righteous and be a sinner at the same time � All I was ever taught to say was, �I�m a poor, miserable sinner.� I am not poor, I am not miserable and I am not a sinner. That is a lie from the pit of hell. That is what I was and if I still am then Jesus died in vain. Amen?�



**HOWEVER, WE ARE COMMANDED TO **WALK AS JESUS WALKED** {SEE JOHN 2:6} AND TO BE HOLY **AS GOD IS HOLY** {SEEI PETER 1;15,16], WHICH IS IMPOSSIBLE, AND SO WE SIN DAILY. AND WE SHOULD **DAILY** ASK GOD TO FORGIVE US OUR SINS AND PURIFY US FROM ALL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS**!!



I John 2:6: Whoever claims to live in Him **MUST** live as Jesus did!!



The following Words of God are not found in the Bibles of Joyce Meyer and Adam7777:



I John 1:8-10: If we claim to be without sin {Like Joyce Meyer and Adam7777}, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. **IF WE CLAIM WE HAVE NOT SINNED WE MAKE HIM OUT TO BE A LIAR AND HIS WORD IS NOT IN US**!!



Luke 11:1-4: The **DISCIPLES** asked Jesus, "Lord teach as to pray." Jesus replied **TO HIS DISCIPLES**, "When you pray, say: '**FATHER**, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come. Give us each day our **DAILY** bread. **FORGIVE US OUR SINS**, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us!'"



Matthew 18:21,22: Peter asked Jesus, "Lord, how many times shall I forgive **MY BROTHER** who sins against me?" Jesus answered, "I tell you, not seven times but seventy seven times!" {77 times can also be translated 70 times 7 or 490 times!!}



**IF WE DO NOT ASK THE FATHER IN JESUS NAME TO FORGIVE US OUR SINS AND REPENT OF OUR SINS GOD WILL DISCIPLINE US**!!



Revelation 3:19: Jesus says, "Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline, so be earnest and repent!!"



Hebrews 12:5-11: Do not make light of the Lord's discipline, and do not lose heart when He rebukes you, because the Lord disciplines those He loves, and He chastens **EVERYONE** {Like Peter and David} He accepts as a son! Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as His children. For what children are not disciplined by their father? IF YOU ARE NOT DISCIPLINED AND **EVERYONE** UNDERGOES DISCIPLINE--THEN YOU ARE NOT LEGITMATE--NOT TRUE SONS AND DAUGHTERS AT ALL**!! Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live! They disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, in order that we may share in His holiness. No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it!



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Posted : 14 Nov, 2018 04:41 AM

" "**HOWEVER, WE ARE COMMANDED TO WALK AS JESUS WALKED {SEE JOHN 2:6} AND TO BE HOLY AS GOD IS HOLY, WHICH IS IMPOSSIBLE, AND SO WE SIN DAILY. AND WE SHOULD **DAILY** ASK GOD TO FORGIVE US OUR SINS AND PURIFY US FROM ALL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS**!!"



"Adam7777 believes that if you even commit one sin or don't bear any fruit that you will **LOSE YOUR SALVATION**??



While prophetic7744 believes that those who **FALL AWAY** and never produce any **FRUIT** were never saved in the first place and are **CUT OFF**!!" "



Prophetic also believed we pray to be forgiven daily and are chastened for the sins we do.......



Prophetic also believes we should only focus on eternal Heavenly rewards, as he does and as he only promotes. Heaven is eternal and His commandment is life everlasting, is what Christ shows us..



Jesus taught us to pray, for His Kingdom to come to earth, for us to receive that Spirit Kingdom of Christ as God is a spirit. For the Lords will to now be done on earth through the ones He will dwell in. Our trespasses needed to be forgiven, but not daily, but once and for all. In the old covenant the priests had to male sacrifice for sins every year, the people had to confess their sins and have conscience of them, because their sins were never taken away, nor the Holy Spirit given so they can keep the law of Christ. The sacrifice is once for all and we become those Holy priests to God who are harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made high in the Heavens with Christ..



Hebrews 7:26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;



27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.



They did not cease to offer as they had remembrance of their sins.



Hebrews 10:2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.



3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.



The new covenant is completely different as described, not the same as prophetic imagines and wishes, but the Lord took away the first to establish the second, and we are sanctified through the body of Christ once and for all.



Hebrews 10:9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.



10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.



By this one offering they are perfected forever when sanctified, as this is the covenant, putting His laws into our hearts and wrting them into our minds, and the sins are no more remembered, as their is no more conscience to sins..



Hebrews 10:14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.



15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,



16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;



17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.



In Matthew 26 they had no strength of spirit, willing but they were flesh and weak. John 16 they could not bear to hear what Jesus had to tell us. When Christ's Spirit is given� after Christ is glorified, (John 7:39) the Spirit of truth was given them to guide them into all truth. All truth cannot be received until the Spirit of truth is given to understand with, to bear all and do all. John 17 Jesus kept then in the Fathers name while with them.



Matthew 26:41 Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.



John 16:12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.

13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.



John 17:12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.



Now Jesus prays, what Jesus prays is what will be. For this continued way of keeping them from the evil. The Spirit to be given keeps us from that evil. They will be sanctified through the truth, through receiving and understanding by the Spirit of truth, and by the hearing of faith. Jesus has to be glorified for them to receive the Holy Spirit to then be sanctified through the truth, through receiving of that Spirit of truth, (Spirit of Christ) Jesus shows the future ones, the other fold He has, will hear their word of the Gospel, believe and receive the same Spirit of truth.



John 17:15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.

16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.

19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.

20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;



They were weak through the flesh, but Christ in the likeness of sinful flesh, condemned sin in the flesh, by nailing our offences to His cross, and making the new covenant with us through His own blood to write His law in our hearts and minds. They fulfill the righteousness of the law, walking not after the flesh, as they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the spirit, and that which is spirit is spirit..John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Carnal mind is death, but spirit mind is peace. So God then dwelt in them, and the body became dead because of sin, and the Spirit is life through righteousness. If we live after the flesh we die, but through the Spirit mortify the deeds of the body and live.



Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.



So God tells us, if we walk in the Spirit, then we shall not fulfill what the flesh lusts for. Not under the law because the Spirit is now leading instead, (not weak in the flesh as before the Spirit given) Then the Spirit: love which works no ill to your neighbour, peace with contentment, long suffering endure in charity what we must go through, gentleness and goodness, Christ doing well to all, faith, strong in faith not stumbling as example of Abraham, father of faith, Romans 4:20 Romans 4:11 Romans 4:16, and meekness of Christ lowly on the donkey, and Spirit of temperance, as they that are Christs have crucified the flesh in its affections and lusts.



Galatians 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.



Jesus prays to have that hour taken away, but then immidiately shows, but for this cause came I unto this hour, and for the Father to glorify His name, as all is to reveal to us how much suffering He endured for us, so we will not faint in our minds and endure too.



John 12:27 Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour.

28 Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.



Hebrews 5:7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;

8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;

9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;



Hebrews 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

3 For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.





Approving, not disapproving, ourselves as ministers of God. Approved through distresses and afflictions. B,y pureness, by long suffering, chastened, sorrowful, having nothing is possessing all things(contentment in the Spirit of Christ) ...



2 Corinthians 6:4 But in all things approving ourselves as the ministers of God, in much patience, in afflictions, in necessities, in distresses,



5 In stripes, in imprisonments, in tumults, in labours, in watchings, in fastings;



6 By pureness, by knowledge, by long suffering, by kindness, by the Holy Ghost, by love unfeigned,



7 By the word of truth, by the power of God, by the armour of righteousness on the right hand and on the left,



8 By honour and dishonour, by evil report and good report: as deceivers, and yet true;



9 As unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and, behold, we live; as chastened, and not killed;



10 As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.



Apostle Paul took pleasure in the chastening and distresses for Christs sake, as chastening comes not for the wrong we do, but to be part taker in Christs sufferings. The fiery trial that comes upon us, is not chastening to correct us, it is suffering to be one with Christ..



1 Peter 4:12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:



13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.



2 Corinthians 12:10 Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.



To be undefiled,(although the strange teacher thinks defiled is when you make only small errors..(Galatians 5:7 Ye did run well; who did hinder you that ye should not obey the truth?8 This persuasion cometh not of him that calleth you.) The trial of your faith are the manifold temptations, the sufferings and the chastenings..



9 A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.



1 Peter 1:4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,



5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.



6 Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations:



7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:



All is written, recorded and one in this world for our admonition, and with the temptation trial that comes upon us God makes the way for us to escape it, we did not go into the wrong, we escape it and all of that suffering is the chastening..



1 Corinthians 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.



12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.



13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.



Christ leads the way, the same way for us to follow, to be made perfect by what we will suffer also to glory. He was made as the seed of Abraham, so He can be merciful and reconcile us to God, that is why Christ suffered the temptations so we will suffer them and not fall into them..



Hebrews 2:10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.



Hebrews 2:16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.



17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.



18 For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.



Christ was then tempted in all points like as we are, and for us to not fall into them and be without sin we come boldly to the throne of grace to find help to overcome those trials, temptations, sufferings, chastenings in time of need..



Hebrews 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.



16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

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**IS THE PROSPERITY GOSPEL SATANIC? *ARE THERE MANY ETERNAL REWARDS FOR SHARING WITH THE POOR**?



Acts 4:32: All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but **THEY SHARED **EVERYTHING** THEY HAD**!!



Acts 2:44,45: All the believers were together and had everything in common. They sold property and possessions to give to everyone who had need!



Luke 18:20-25: Jesus said to the rich man, "You still lack one thing. Sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have **TREASURE IN HEAVEN**. Then come, **FOLLOW ME**. When he heard this he became very sad, because he was very wealthy. Jesus looked at him and said, "How hard it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God! Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle then for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God!"



NOTE: In addition to eternal life Jesus also promised the rich man eternal **ETERNAL TREASURES IN HEAVEN**



Luke 19:8,9: Zachaeus stood up and said to the Lord, "Look, Lord! Here and now I give half of my possessions to the poor, and if I cheated anybody out of anything, I will pay beck four times the amount!" Jesus said to him, "Today salvation has come to this house!"



**JESUS PROMISES ETERNAL REWARDS FOR HELPING OR SHARING WITH THE POOR AND NEEDY**!!



Matthew 6:1-4; 19-21: Jesus says, "When you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and the streets, to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret will **REWARD** you!"... "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth where moth and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves **TREASURES IN HEAVEN**, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and thieves do not break in and steal. For where your **TREASURE** is, there your **HEART** will be also!"



I Timothy 6:5-10 There are people of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to **FINANCIAL GAIN**. {Like the Prosperity Gospel of Joel Osteen} But godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing in the world, and we can take nothing out of it. But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that. Those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the **LOVE OF MONEY** is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs!



I John 2:15-17: Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world. love for the Father **IS NOT IN THEM**. For everything in the world--the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life--comes not from the Father but from the world. The world and its desires pass away, but whoever does the will of God lives forever!



James 2:5-7: Listen, my dear brothers and sisters: Has not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be **RICH IN FAITH** and to inherit the kingdom He promised to those who love Him? But you have dishonored the poor. Is it not the rich who are exploiting you! Are they not the ones who are dragging you into court? Are the not the ones who are blaspheming the noble name of Him to whom you belong?



James 5:1-5: Now listen, you rich people, weep and wail because of the misery that is coming on you. Your wealth has rotted, and moths have eaten your clothes. Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against you and eat your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the Last Days. Look!! The wages you failed to pay the workers who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves in the day of slaughter. You have condemned and murdered the innocent one, who was not opposing you!



I Timothy 2:9,10: I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, adorning themselves, not with elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God!



Hebrews 13:5: Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said, "Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you!"



Luke 16:13: Jesus says, " No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money!"



2 Corinthians 6:10: We are poor, yet making many rich; having nothing and yet **POSSESSING EVERYTHING**!



2 Timothy 3:1,2,5: But mark this. There will be terrible tines in the last days. People will lovers of themselves **LOVERS OF MONEY**.... lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God--having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people!



I Timothy 6:17-19: Command those who are rich in this present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment. Command them to do good, to be rich in good deeds, and to be **GENEROUS AND WILLING TO SHARE**. In this way they will lay up **TREASURE** for themselves as a firm foundation for the coming age, do that they may take hold of life that is truly life!



Luke 14:33,34: Jesus says, "When you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be **BLESSED**! Although they cannot repay you, you will be **REPAID AT THE RESURRECTION** of the righteous!"



Romans 12:13: Share with the Lord's people who are in need. Practice hospitality.



Ephesians 4:28: Work, doing something useful with your hands, so that you have **SOMETHING TO SHARE** with those in need!



Acts 2:44,45: All the believers were together and had everything in common. They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need!



Acts 4:32: All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but **THEY SHARED **EVERYTHING** THEY HAD**!!



Luke 3:11: Anyone who has two shirts should share with the one who has none, and anyone who has food should do the same!



Luke 29,30,35,36: Jesus says, "If someone takes your coat, do not withhold your shirt from them. Give to anyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back... Love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting anything back. Then your **REWARD WILL BE GREAT**, and you will be children of the Most High, because He is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. Be merciful. just as your Father is merciful!"



Romans 12:20,21: If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink... Do not be overcome by evil, but **OVERCOME EVIL WITH GOOD**!





**JESUS SAYS, "I CHOSE YOU SO THAT YOU MIGHT BEAR **FRUIT**, **FRUIT THAT WILL LAST**!"



"John 15:1-5,16: Jesus says, "I am the true vine, and My Father is the gardener, He cuts off every branch in Me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear **FRUIT** He prunes so that it will be even more **FRUITFUL**. You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you. Remain in Me as I also remain in you. No branch can bear **FRUIT** by itself; it must remain in the vine, Neither can you bear **FRUIT** unless you remain in Me. I am the vine, you are the branches. If you remain in Me and I in you, you will bear **MUCH FRUIT**; apart from Me you can do nothing... You did not choose Me but I chose you and appointed you so that you might go and bear **FRUIT**--**FRUIT** that will last!!!"



Ephesians 2:8,9: For it is by **GRACE** you have been saved, through **FAITH**�and this **NOT FROM YOURSELVES**, it is the **GIFT OF GOD**�not by works. So that no one can boast. For we are **GOD'S WORKMANSHIP**, created in Christ Jesus to do **GOOD WORKS**, which God prepared in advance for us to do!



Matthew 21:43: Jesus says to Israel, "The Kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a people who will produce **FRUIT**!"



Romans 7:4-6: So my brothers and sisters, you who died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, in order that you might **BEAR FRUIT** for God. For when we were in the realm of the flesh, the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in us, so that we might bear fruit for death. But now, by dying to what bound us, we have been **RELEASED FROM THE LAW** so that we may serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.



Luke 6:43-45: Jesus says, No good tree bears bad **FRUIT**, nor does a bad tree bear **GOOD FRUIT**. Each tree is recognized by its own fruit. People do not pick figs from thorn bushes, or grapes from briers. A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart. ... For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of!"



Colossians 1:9,10: We continually ask God to fill you with the knowledge of His will through all the wisdom and understanding that the Spirit gives, so that you may please Him in every good work, **BEARING FRUIT** in every good work, growing in the knowledge of God!



Matthew 13:23: Jesus says, "But the one who received the seed that fell on good soil is the man who hears the **WORD AND UNDERSTANDS IT**. He produces a crop, yielding a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown."



Luke 8:15: Jesus says, "But the seed on good soil stands for those with a noble and good heart, who hear the **WORD**, retain it, and by perseverance produce a crop."



Philippians 1:9-11: And this is my prayer: that your love may abound **MORE AND MORE** in knowledge and depth and insight, so that you may be able to discern what is best and may be pure and blameless for the day of Christ, filled with the **FRUIT** of righteousness that comes through Jesus Christ--to the glory and praise of God!!



Philippians 1:22,23: For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain. If I am to go living in the body this will mean **FRUITFUL LABOR** for me!



Galatians 5:22,23: The **FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT** is love, joy, peace, forgiveness, kindness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control!



2 Peter 1:3-11: His divine power has given us everything we need for a godly life through our knowledge of Him who called us by His own glory and goodness. Through these He has given us very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature, having escaped the corruption of the world caused by evil desires. For this reason, make every effort to add to your faith {A Free Gift} goodness; and to goodness, knowledge; and to knowledge, self control; and to self-control, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness; and to godliness, brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness, **LOVE**. For if you possess these qualities in **INCREASING MEASURE**, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. But whoever does not have them is nearsighted and blind, forgetting that they have been forgiven of their past sins... Therefore, my brothers make **EVERY EFFORT** to confirm your calling and election. For if you do these things, you will never fail, and you will receive a **RICH WELCOME**into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!



I Corinthians 9:24-27: Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes in to strict training. They do it to get a **CROWN** that will not last; but we do it to get a **CROWN THAT WILL LAST FOREVER**! Therefore, I do not run like a man running aimlessly. I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize!



I Thessalonians 4:1: We instructed you how to live in order to please God, as in fact you are living. Now we urge you in the Lord Jesus to do this **MORE AND MORE**!!



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Godliness is a mystery to man, but chastening comes every morning because of Gods Kingdom being within us, not for the evil we do, but for receiving the good, and that is our reward, rewarded with the Lord, although the persecution is no value to the ungodly..



Psalm 73:1 Truly God is good to Israel, even to such as are of a clean heart.



2 But as for me, my feet were almost gone; my steps had well nigh slipped.



3 For I was envious at the foolish, when I saw the prosperity of the wicked.



4 For there are no bands in their death: but their strength is firm.



5 They are not in trouble as other men; neither are they plagued like other men.



6 Therefore pride compasseth them about as a chain; violence covereth them as a garment.



7 Their eyes stand out with fatness: they have more than heart could wish.



8 They are corrupt, and speak wickedly concerning oppression: they speak loftily.



9 They set their mouth against the heavens, and their tongue walketh through the earth.



10 Therefore his people return hither: and waters of a full cup are wrung out to them.



11 And they say, How doth God know? and is there knowledge in the most High?



12 Behold, these are the ungodly, who prosper in the world; they increase in riches.



13 Verily I have cleansed my heart in vain, and washed my hands in innocency.



14 For all the day long have I been plagued, and chastened every morning.



15 If I say, I will speak thus; behold, I should offend against the generation of thy children.



16 When I thought to know this, it was too painful for me;



17 Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end.



18 Surely thou didst set them in slippery places: thou castedst them down into destruction.



REWARDS IN HEAVEN?



Note, eternal life is in glory, the riches in Heaven are the glory of the Lord, your reward shall be what?



Isaiah 58:8 Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily: and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the GLORY OF THE LORD shall be thy REWARD



Psalm 73:23 Nevertheless I am continually with thee: thou hast holden me by my right hand.



24 Thou shalt guide me with thy counsel, AND AFTERWARD RECEIVE ME TO GLORY.



25 Whom have I in heaven but thee? and there is none upon earth that I desire beside thee.



26 My flesh and my heart faileth: but God is the strength of my heart, and my portion for ever.



27 For, lo, they that are far from thee shall perish: thou hast destroyed all them that go a whooring from thee.



28 But it is good for me to draw near to God: I have put my trust in the Lord God, that I may declare all thy works.

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Adam7777 says that there are **NO ETERNAL HEAVENLY REWARDS** for helping the poor???



**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??



**IS THE PROSPERITY GOSPEL SATANIC? *ARE THERE MANY ETERNAL REWARDS FOR SHARING WITH THE POOR**?



Acts 4:32: All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but **THEY SHARED **EVERYTHING** THEY HAD**!!



Acts 2:44,45: All the believers were together and had everything in common. They sold property and possessions to give to everyone who had need!



Luke 18:20-25: Jesus said to the rich man, "You still lack one thing. Sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have **TREASURE IN HEAVEN**. Then come, **FOLLOW ME**. When he heard this he became very sad, because he was very wealthy. Jesus looked at him and said, "How hard it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God! Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle then for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God!"



NOTE: In addition to eternal life Jesus also promised the rich man eternal **ETERNAL TREASURES IN HEAVEN**



Luke 19:8,9: Zachaeus stood up and said to the Lord, "Look, Lord! Here and now I give half of my possessions to the poor, and if I cheated anybody out of anything, I will pay beck four times the amount!" Jesus said to him, "Today salvation has come to this house!"



**JESUS PROMISES ETERNAL REWARDS FOR HELPING OR SHARING WITH THE POOR AND NEEDY**!!



Matthew 6:1-4; 19-21: Jesus says, "When you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and the streets, to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret will **REWARD** you!"... "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth where moth and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves **TREASURES IN HEAVEN**, where moths and vermin do not desrtoy, and thieves do not break in and steal. For where your **TREASURE** is, there your **HEART** will be also!"



I Timothy 6:5-10 There are people of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to **FINANCIAL GAIN**. {Like the Prosperity Gospel of Joel Osteen} But godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing in the world, and we can take nothing out of it. But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that. Those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the **LOVE OF MONEY** is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs!



I John 2:15-17: Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world. love for the Father **IS NOT IN THEM**. For everything in the world--the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life--comes not from the Father but from the world. The world and its desires pass away, but whoever does the will of God lives forever!



James 2:5-7: Listen, my dear brothers and sisters: Has not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be **RICH IN FAITH** and to inherit the kingdom He prmised to those who love Him? But you have dishonored the poor. Is it not the rich who are exploiting you! Are they not the ones who are dragging you into court? Are the not the ones who are blaspheming the noble name of Him to whom you belong?



James 5:1-5: Now listen, you rich people, weep and wail because of the misery that is coming on you. Your wealth has rotted, and moths have eaten your clothes. Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosian will testify against you and eat your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the Last Days. Look!! The wages you failed to pay the workers who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves in the day of slaughter. You have condemned and murdered the innocent one, who was not opposing you!



I Timothy 2:9,10: I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, adorning themselves, not with elaboate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God!



Hebrews 13:5: Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said, "Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you!"



Luke 16:13: Jesus says, " No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money!"



2 Corintians 6:10: We are poor, yet making many rich; having nothing and yet **POSSESSING EVERYTHING**!



2 Timothy 3:1,2,5: But mark this. There will be terrible tines in the last days. People will lovers of themselves **LOVERS OF MONEY**.... lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God--having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people!



I Timothy 6:17-19: Command those who are rich in this present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment. Command them to do good, to be rich in good deeds, and to be **GENEROUS AND WILLING TO SHARE**. In this way they will lay up **TREASURE** for themsleves as a firm foundation for the coming age, do that they may take hold of life that is truly life!



Luke 14:33,34: Jesus says, "When you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be **BLESSED**! Although they cannot repay you, you will be **REPAID AT THE RESURRECTION** of the righteous!"



Romans 12:13: Share with the Lord's people who are in need. Practice hospitality.



Ephesians 4:28: Work, doing something useful with your hands, so that you have **SOMETHING TO SHARE** with those in need!



Acts 2:44,45: All the believers were together and had everything in common. They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need!



Acts 4:32: All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but **THEY SHARED **EVERYTHING** THEY HAD**!!



Luke 3:11: Anyone who has two shirts should share with the one who has none, and anyone who has food should do the same!



Luke 29,30,35,36: Jesus says, "If someone takes your coat, do not withhold your shirt from them. Give to anyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back... Love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting anything back. Then your **REWARD WILL BE GREAT**, and you will be children of the Most High, because He is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. Be merciful. just as your Father is merciful!"



Romans 12:20,21: If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink... Do not be overcome by evil, but **OVERCOME EVIL WITH GOOD**!







**JESUS SAYS, "I CHOSE YOU SO THAT YOU MIGHT BEAR **FRUIT**, **FRUIT THAT WILL LAST**!"



"John 15:1-5,16: Jesus says, "I am the true vine, and My Father is the gardener, He cuts off every branch in Me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear **FRUIT** He prunes so that it will be even more **FRUITFUL**. You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you. Remain in Me as I also remain in you. No branch can bear **FRUIT** by itself; it must remain in the vine, Neither can you bear **FRUIT** unless you remain in Me. I am the vine, you are the branches. If you remain in Me and I in you, you will bear **MUCH FRUIT**; apart from Me you can do nothing... You did not choose Me but I chose you and appointed you so that you might go and bear **FRUIT**--**FRUIT** that will last!!!"



Ephesians 2:8,9: For it is by **GRACE** you have been saved, through **FAITH**�and this **NOT FROM YOURSELVES**, it is the **GIFT OF GOD**�not by works. So that no one can boast. For we are **GOD'S WORKMANSHIP**, created in Christ Jesus to do **GOOD WORKS**, which God prepared in advance for us to do!



Matthew 21:43: Jesus says to Israel, "The Kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a people who will produce **FRUIT**!"



Romans 7:4-6: So my brothers and sisters, you who died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, in order that you might **BEAR FRUIT** for God. For when we were in the realm of the flesh, the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in us, so that we might bear fruit for death. But now, by dying to what bound us, we have been **RELEASED FROM THE LAW** so that we may serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.



Luke 6:43-45: Jesus says, No good tree bears bad **FRUIT**, nor does a bad tree bear **GOOD FRUIT**. Each tree is recognized by its own fruit. People do not pick figs from thorn bushes, or grapes from briers. A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart. ... For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of!"



Colossians 1:9,10: We continually ask God to fill you with the knowledge of His will through all the wisdom and understanding that the Spirit gives, so that you may please Him in every good work, **BEARING FRUIT** in every good work, growing in the knowledge of God!



Matthew 13:23: Jesus says, "But the one who received the seed that fell on good soil is the man who hears the **WORD AND UNDERSTANDS IT**. He produces a crop, yielding a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown."



Luke 8:15: Jesus says, "But the seed on good soil stands for those with a noble and good heart, who hear the **WORD**, retain it, and by perseverance produce a crop."



Philippians 1:9-11: And this is my prayer: that your love may abound **MORE AND MORE** in knowledge and depth and insight, so that you may be able to discern what is best and may be pure and blameless for the day of Christ, filled with the **FRUIT** of righteousness that comes through Jesus Christ--to the glory and praise of God!!



Philippians 1:22,23: For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain. If I am to go living in the body this will mean **FRUITFUL LABOR** for me!



Galatians 5:22,23: The **FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT** is love, joy, peace, forgiveness, kindness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control!



2 Peter 1:3-11: His divine power has given us everything we need for a godly life through our knowledge of Him who called us by His own glory and goodness. Through these He has given us very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature, having escaped the corruption of the world caused by evil desires. For this reason, make every effort to add to your faith {A Free Gift} goodness; and to goodness, knowledge; and to knowledge, self control; and to self-control, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness; and to godliness, brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness, **LOVE**. For if you possess these qualities in **INCREASING MEASURE**, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. But whoever does not have them is nearsighted and blind, forgetting that they have been forgiven of their past sins... Therefore, my brothers make **EVERY EFFORT** to confirm your calling and election. For if you do these things, you will never fail, and you will receive a **RICH WELCOME**into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!



I Corinthians 9:24-27: Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes in to strict training. They do it to get a **CROWN** that will not last; but we do it to get a **CROWN THAT WILL LAST FOREVER**! Therefore, I do not run like a man running aimlessly. I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize!



I Thessalonians 4:1: We instructed you how to live in order to please God, as in fact you are living. Now we urge you in the Lord Jesus to do this **MORE AND MORE**!!



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Posted : 14 Nov, 2018 06:42 AM

Prophetic fails to read, too busy hearing his own self, but if he wanted to hear what we think of rewards, it is told, and if he can reply, feel free to do so..



Eternal Heavenly rewards for helping the poor is not what man wishes it should be..



Godliness is a mystery to man, but chastening comes every morning because of Gods Kingdom being within us, not for the evil we do, but for receiving the good, and that is our reward, rewarded with the Lord, although the persecution is no value to the ungodly.



When we give to the poor, what is being done? It is the Lord that we lend to, as it is the Lord that loves. We need to keep and walk in the love of the Lord, His Spirit is Holy which man sees through darkened unenlightened eyes..



Proverbs 19:17 He that hath pity upon the poor lendeth unto the Lord; and that which he hath given will he pay him again.



Psalm 73:1 Truly God is good to Israel, even to such as are of a clean heart.



2 But as for me, my feet were almost gone; my steps had well nigh slipped.



3 For I was envious at the foolish, when I saw the prosperity of the wicked.



4 For there are no bands in their death: but their strength is firm.



5 They are not in trouble as other men; neither are they plagued like other men.



6 Therefore pride compasseth them about as a chain; violence covereth them as a garment.



7 Their eyes stand out with fatness: they have more than heart could wish.



8 They are corrupt, and speak wickedly concerning oppression: they speak loftily.



9 They set their mouth against the heavens, and their tongue walketh through the earth.



10 Therefore his people return hither: and waters of a full cup are wrung out to them.



11 And they say, How doth God know? and is there knowledge in the most High?



12 Behold, these are the ungodly, who prosper in the world; they increase in riches.



13 Verily I have cleansed my heart in vain, and washed my hands in innocency.



14 For all the day long have I been plagued, and chastened every morning.



15 If I say, I will speak thus; behold, I should offend against the generation of thy children.



16 When I thought to know this, it was too painful for me;



17 Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end.



18 Surely thou didst set them in slippery places: thou castedst them down into destruction.



REWARDS IN HEAVEN?



Note, eternal life is in glory, the riches in Heaven are the glory of the Lord, your reward shall be what?



Isaiah 58:8 Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily: and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the GLORY OF THE LORD shall be thy REWARD



We do not declare what we look forward to, we declare all the works of the Lord, all is done for Him, but man does all he shows, for his own self and pleasure seeker which proves heir self glory they speak nothing o the glory of the Lord and are trapped as meant to be snared :)..



Psalm 73:23 Nevertheless I am continually with thee: thou hast holden me by my right hand.



24 Thou shalt guide me with thy counsel, AND AFTERWARD RECEIVE ME TO GLORY.



25 Whom have I in heaven but thee? and there is none upon earth that I desire beside thee.



26 My flesh and my heart faileth: but God is the strength of my heart, and my portion for ever.



27 For, lo, they that are far from thee shall perish: thou hast destroyed all them that go a whooring from thee.



28 But it is good for me to draw near to God: I have put my trust in the Lord God, that I may declare all thy works.



Revelation 4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.



Jeremiah 8:9 The wise men are ashamed, they are dismayed and taken: lo, they have rejected the word of the Lord; and what wisdom is in them?



2 Peter 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

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Posted : 14 Nov, 2018 07:11 AM

Adam777 says there are **NO ETERNAL HEAVENLY REWARDS** for faithful and loving service???



**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??



**ETERNAL REWARDS** are 100 percent **EARNED**!!



Ephesians 6:8: Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not men, because you know that the Lord will **REWARD** everyone for what ever good he does!



Revelation 22:12 Jesus says, �Behold I am coming soon! My **REWARD** is **WITH ME**, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done!�



Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, �The Son of Man is going to come in His Father's glory with His angels and **THEN** He will **REWARD** each person according to what he has done!�



Luke 11:33,34: Jesus says, "Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a **TREASURE** IN HEAVEN** that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. For where your **TREASURE** is, there your **HEART** will be also!"



Luke 14:13,14: Jesus says, "When you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be **BLESSED**. Although they cannot repay you, you will be **REPAID AT THE RESURRECTION** of the righteous!"



2 Corinthians 5:9,10: We make it our goal to please Him... for we must all appear before the Judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.



1 Corinthians 3:13-15: His work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work. If what he has built survives, he will receive his **REWARD**. If it is burned up he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames.



How to Win Heavenly CROWNS:



I Corinthians 9:24-27: Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes in to strict training. They do it to get a **CROWN** that will not last; but we do it to get a **CROWN THAT WILL LAST FOREVER**! Therefore I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize!



2 John 1:8: Watch out that you do not lose what you have worked for, but that you may be **REWARDED** fully!.



Revelation 3:11: Jesus says, �I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your **CROWN**!�



2 Timothy 4:7,8: I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. Now there is in store for me the **CROWN** of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day�and not only to me, but also to all who have longed for His appearing!



The **CROWN** of Life for those who persevere under trials and persecution:



James 1:12: Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will receive the **CROWN OF LIFE** that God has promised to those who love Him!



Revelation 2:10 Jesus says, �Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer... Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the **CROWN OF LIFE**!�



Matthew 5:11,12: Jesus says, �Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your **REWARD** **IN HEAVEN**!�



Hebrews 10:32-36: Remember those earlier days after you had received the Light, when you stood your ground in a great contest in the face of suffering. Sometimes you were publicly exposed to insult and persecution; at other times you stood side by side with those who were so treated. You sympathized with those in prison and joyfully accepted the confiscation of your property, because you knew that you yourselves had better and lasting possessions. So do not throw away your confidence; it will be richly **REWARDED**. You need to persevere so that when you have done the will of God, you receive what He has promised!



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Focusing on this worlds understanding of rewards means we are not loving in Gods love, who loves others not Himself, but the wisdom of this world understands only what is for themselves, but that will not b the way for the followers of Christ who did have to die to help us live, and many follow the ways of this world to gain things, but the meanings are revealed..



2 Peter 2:2 And MANY FOLLOW THEIR PERNICIOUS WAYS; by reason of whom THE WAY OF TRUTH SHALL BE EVIL SPOKEN OF.



3 And THROUGH COVETEOUSNESS shall they with feigned words MAKE MERCHANDISE OF YOU: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.



Jude 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, UNGODLY MEN, TURNING THE GRACE OF OUR GOD INTO LASCIVIOUSNESS, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.



Eternal Heavenly rewards for helping the poor is not what man wishes it should be..



Godliness is a mystery to man, but chastening comes every morning because of Gods Kingdom being within us, not for the evil we do, but for receiving the good, and that is our reward, rewarded with the Lord, although the persecution is no value to the ungodly.



When we give to the poor, what is being done? It is the Lord that we lend to, as it is the Lord that loves. We need to keep and walk in the love of the Lord, His Spirit is Holy which man sees through darkened unenlightened eyes..



Proverbs 19:17 He that hath pity upon the poor lendeth unto the Lord; and that which he hath given will he pay him again.



Psalm 73:1 Truly God is good to Israel, even to such as are of a clean heart.



2 But as for me, my feet were almost gone; my steps had well nigh slipped.



3 For I was envious at the foolish, when I saw the prosperity of the wicked.



4 For there are no bands in their death: but their strength is firm.



5 They are not in trouble as other men; neither are they plagued like other men.



6 Therefore pride compasseth them about as a chain; violence covereth them as a garment.



7 Their eyes stand out with fatness: they have more than heart could wish.



8 They are corrupt, and speak wickedly concerning oppression: they speak loftily.



9 They set their mouth against the heavens, and their tongue walketh through the earth.



10 Therefore his people return hither: and waters of a full cup are wrung out to them.



11 And they say, How doth God know? and is there knowledge in the most High?



12 Behold, these are the ungodly, who prosper in the world; they increase in riches.



13 Verily I have cleansed my heart in vain, and washed my hands in innocency.



14 For all the day long have I been plagued, and chastened every morning.



15 If I say, I will speak thus; behold, I should offend against the generation of thy children.



16 When I thought to know this, it was too painful for me;



17 Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end.



18 Surely thou didst set them in slippery places: thou castedst them down into destruction.



REWARDS IN HEAVEN?



Note, eternal life is in glory, the riches in Heaven are the glory of the Lord, your reward shall be what?



Isaiah 58:8 Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily: and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the GLORY OF THE LORD shall be thy REWARD



We do not declare what we look forward to, we declare all the works of the Lord, all is done for Him, but man does all he shows, for his own self and pleasure seeker which proves heir self glory they speak nothing o the glory of the Lord and are trapped as meant to be snared :)..



Psalm 73:23 Nevertheless I am continually with thee: thou hast holden me by my right hand.



24 Thou shalt guide me with thy counsel, AND AFTERWARD RECEIVE ME TO GLORY.



25 Whom have I in heaven but thee? and there is none upon earth that I desire beside thee.



26 My flesh and my heart faileth: but God is the strength of my heart, and my portion for ever.



27 For, lo, they that are far from thee shall perish: thou hast destroyed all them that go a whooring from thee.



28 But it is good for me to draw near to God: I have put my trust in the Lord God, that I may declare all thy works.



Revelation 4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.



Jeremiah 8:9 The wise men are ashamed, they are dismayed and taken: lo, they have rejected the word of the Lord; and what wisdom is in them?



2 Peter 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.



Prophetic mentions crowns, mans understanding of crown is to receive a corrupt one, mans understanding of God is corrupt, but the crown is of thorns and Christ crucified is the true preaching. heir confession is they do not keep under their body and cant cease from sins, yet want you to follow the pernicious contentious selfish way they portray in Gods name..



Matthew 27:29 And when they had platted a crown of thorns, they put it upon his head, and a reed in his right hand: and they bowed the knee before him, and mocked him, saying, Hail, King of the Jews!



1 Timothy 6:15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;



1 Corinthians 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;



1 Corinthians 9:25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.



26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:



27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.



1 Peter 4:1 Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;



2 Peter 2:14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:

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