I have been trying to find a certain person in the Word of GOD Almighty, but am having a tough time .
I have used concordances, interlinears, bible dictionaries,all of the bible translations,with the Greek and Hebrew on the web sites bible hub,and blue letter bible.
I have been looking for a WORSHIP leader in the New Covenant, yet have not found one, not one.
Where then does the 'church' come up with worship leader, and as a PAID POSITION .
"The ones born of God therefore, **SIN NOT**" Adam7777 also claims that we are completely sanctified and **NO LONGER SIN** the very moment we are saved.{???}
Joyce Meyer also claims that she **NO LONGER SINS** in this taped message:
�I�m going to tell you something folks, I didn�t stop sinning until I finally got it through my thick head I wasn�t a sinner anymore. And the religious world thinks that�s heresy and they want to hang you for it. But the Bible says that I�m righteous and I can�t be righteous and be a sinner at the same time � All I was ever taught to say was, �I�m a poor, miserable sinner.� I am not poor, I am not miserable and I am not a sinner. That is a lie from the pit of hell. That is what I was and if I still am then Jesus died in vain. Amen?�
**HOWEVER, WE ARE COMMANDED TO **WALK AS JESUS WALKED** {SEE JOHN 2:6} AND TO BE HOLY **AS GOD IS HOLY**[I PETER 1;15,16], WHICH IS IMPOSSIBLE, AND SO WE SIN DAILY. AND WE SHOULD **DAILY** ASK GOD TO FORGIVE US OUR SINS AND PURIFY US FROM ALL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS**!!
The following Words of God are not found in the Bibles of Joyce Meyer and Adam777:
I John 1:8-10: If we claim to be without sin {Like Joyce Meyer and Adam7777}, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. **IF WE CLAIM WE HAVE NOT SINNED WE MAKE HIM OUT TO BE A LIAR AND HIS WORD IS NOT IN US**!!
Luke 11:1-4: The **DISCIPLES** asked Jesus, "Lord teach as to pray." Jesus replied **TO HIS DISCIPLES**, "When you pray, say: '**FATHER**, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come. Give us each day our **DAILY** bread. **FORGIVE US OUR SINS**, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us!'"
Matthew 18:21,22: Peter asked Jesus, "Lord, how many times shall I forgive **MY BROTHER** who sins against me?" Jesus answered, "I tell you, not seven times but seventy seven times!" {77 times can also be translated 70 times 7 or 490 times!!}
**IF WE DO NOT ASK THE FATHER IN JESUS NAME TO FORGIVE US OUR SINS AND REPENT OF OUR SINS GOD WILL DISCIPLINE US**
Revelation 3:19: Jesus says, "Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline, so be earnest and repent!!"
Hebrews 12:5-11: Do not make light of the Lord's discipline, and do not lose heart when He rebukes you, because the Lord disciplines those He loves, and He chastens **EVERYONE** {Like Peter and David} He accepts as a son! Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as His children. For what children are not disciplined by their father? IF YOU ARE NOT DISCIPLINED AND **EVERYONE** UNDERGOES DISCIPLINE--THEN YOU ARE NOT LEGITMATE--NOT TRUE SONS AND DAUGHTERS AT ALL**!! Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live! They disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, in order that we may share in His holiness. No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it!
A more fuller look at the quotes of the bible. As many as Christ loves He does chasten and rebuke, those who are neither hot nor cold, but are indeed in the middle, lukewarm. Rich people, the blind in this world, evidently not Christians who are given eyes to see...
2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Matthew 13:16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
Revelation 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
Just persons need repentance, or need no repentance?
Luke 15:7 I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.
Just persons are made perfect..
Hebrews 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
Apostle Paul had done no wrong here, but preventative medicine, God chastened Paul before he would be exalted, because the gifts and calling of God are without repentance..
Romans 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
2 Corinthians 12:7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.
8 For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me.
9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
10 Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.
Jesus gave the Gospel message, teaching us how to pry righteously, to forgive our sins as we forgive those who sin against us. But this Jesus spoke about Pre-Spirit, as the Spirit was not yet given as Jesus had not yet been glorified..
Luke 11:4 And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil.
John 7:39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
Jesus taught us, unless we are born again of that Holy Spirit, we cannot see the Kingdom of God, cannot enter into the Kingdom of God, so the prayer that was taught, was taught to people not in Gods Kingdom, just yet. That which is of the flesh, prays and does all as flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit, does what the Spirit does..
John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Then we are taught, when we walk in that Holy Spirit, this is when we shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. They who do any of the things listed, shall not inherit the Kingdom of God, because they are not born again and neither saw nor cannot enter in to the Kingdom of God..
Galatians 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
We are told to sin not. If any man sins, he has his sins forgiven, because that prayer to forgive our sins, is given for anyone not born of God, but who are sincerely seeking Christ, their sins are forgiven them, unto the fathers who have known Christ and then have overcome the wicked one, these who have known the Father, are begotten of God, and overcame the wicked one by the wicked one no longer touching them and they then sin not..
1 John 2:2 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
1 John 2:12 I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his name's sake.
13 I write unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the wicked one. I write unto you, little children, because ye have known the Father.
1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
"If you do not want your treasures to turn to nothing, you need to build up treasures of righteousness within yourself, where the Kingdom of Heaven is."{???}
**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??
John 18:36: Jesus says,, "**MY KINGDOM IS NOT OF THIS WORLD**, if it were my servants would fight to prevent My arrest by the Jewish leaders. But **NOW MY KINGDOM** is from **ANOTHER PLACE**!"
Hebrews 12:27-29: God says, Once more I will shake not only the earth but also the heavens." The words, "Once more" indicate the removing of what can be shaken--that is, created things--so that what cannot be shaken can remain! Therefore, since we are receiving a **KINGDOM THAT CAN NOT BE SHAKEN**, let us be thankful, and so worship God acceptably with reverence and awe, for our God is a consuming fire!
2 Peter 3:10-13: But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief {To unbelievers} The heavens will **DISAPPEAR** with roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be burned up!... That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with His promise **WE** are looking for a **NEW HEAVEN** and a **NEW EARTH**, where righteousness dwells!
Revelation 21:1-5: Then I saw a **NEW HEAVEN** and a **NEW EARTH**for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the **NEW JERUSALEM**, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. An I heard a loud voice from the Throne saying, "Look! God's dwelling place is now among the people and He will dwell with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away. He who was seated on the Throne said, "I am making **EVERYTHING NEW**!" Then He said, "Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true!!"
2 Peter 1:11: You will receive a rich welcome into the **ETERNAL KINGDOM** of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!
2 Timothy 4:18: The Lord will bring me safely to his **HEAVENLY KINGDOM**. To Him be the glory for ever and ever! Amen!
I Corinthians 15:50-52: I declare to you brothers that **FLESH AND BLOOD CAN NOT ENTER **THE KINGDOM OF GOD**, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will **ALL** be changed--in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the Last {And 7th} Trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed!!
Adam7777 and Joyce Meyer and Satan want you to believe that every time believers sin they are really not saved and should not continually ask forgiveness for their sins to get back in a close relationship with God; and that they should not continually seek **ETERNAL REWARDS** in the **HEAVENLY KINGDOM** for faithful and loving service!!
**SALVATION IS 100% FREE** BUT ETERNAL HEAVENLY REWARDS ARE 100% EARNED**!!
**SALVATION IS 100% FREE**!!
Titus 3:3,4: At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another. But when the kindness and **LOVE** of God our Savior appeared , He saved us, **NOT BECAUSE OF RIGHTEOUS THINGS WE HAD DONE**, but because of **HIS MERCY**!!
John 1:12,13: To all who received Him, to those who believed in His name, he gave the right to become children of God--children born not of natural descent, **NOR OF A HUMAN DECISION** or a husband's will but, **BORN OF GOD**!!
John 6:37,39,44,65: Jesus says, "**ALL** that the Father gives Me **WILL** come to Me, and whoever comes to Me I will **NEVER** drive away... And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall **LOSE NONE** of all that He has given Me, but raise them up at the Last Day.... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father who sent Me **DRAWS HIM**, and I will raise him up at the Last Day!!... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father has **ENABLED THEM**!!"
Ephesians 2:8,9: For it is by **GRACE** you have been saved, through **FAITH**�and this **NOT FROM YOURSELVES**, it is the **GIFT OF GOD**�not by works. So that no one can boast. For we are **GOD'S WORKMANSHIP**, created in Christ Jesus to do **GOOD WORKS**, which God prepared in advance for us to do!
Romans 12:3: For by the **GRACE GIVEN ME** I say to every one of you. Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourselves with sober judgment, in accordance with the **FAITH GOD HAS DISTRIBUTED TO EACH OF YOU**... We have different gifts, according to the **GRACE GIVEN TO EACH OF US**!!
John 15:16: Jesus says, "You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you so that you might go and bear fruit--fruit that will last!!
Romans 9:15,16,18: God says, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion." It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God's mercy...Therefore God has mercy on whom He wants to have mercy, and He hardens whom He wants to harden. {But God's saints still preach God's Word to everyone}
Revelation 17:14: They will wage war against the **LAMB**, but the **LAMB** will triumph over them because He is Lord of lords and King of kings--and with Him will be His **CALLED**, **CHOSEN** and **FAITHFUL** followers!
**AND SO SALVATION IS 100 PERCENT **FREE** but **ETERNAL REWARDS** are 100 percent **EARNED**!!
Ephesians 6:8: Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not men, because you know that the Lord will **REWARD** everyone for what ever good he does!
Revelation 22:12 Jesus says, �Behold I am coming soon! My **REWARD** is with Me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done!�
Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, �The Son of Man is going to come in His Father's glory with His angels and THEN He will **REWARD** each person according to what he has done!�
Luke 11:33,34: Jesus says, "Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a **TREASURE** IN HEAVEN** that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. For where your **TREASURE** is, there your **HEART** will be also!"
Luke 14:13,14: Jesus says, "When you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be **BLESSED**. Although they cannot repay you will be **REPAID AT THE RESURRECTION** of the righteous!"
2 Corinthians 5:9,10: We make it our goal to please Him... for we must all appear before the Judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.
1 Corinthians 3:13-15: His work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work. If what he has built survives, he will receive his **REWARD**. If it is burned up he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames.
How to Win Heavenly CROWNS:
I Corinthians 9:24-27: Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes in to strict training. They do it to get a **CROWN** that will not last; but we do it to get a **CROWN THAT WILL LAST FOREVER**! Therefore I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize!
2 John 1:8: Watch out that you do not lose what you have worked for, but that you may be **REWARDED** fully!.
Revelation 3:11: Jesus says, �I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your **CROWN**!�
2 Timothy 4:7,8: I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. Now there is in store for me the **CROWN** of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day�and not only to me, but also to all who have longed for His appearing!
The **CROWN** of Life for those who persevere under trials and persecution:
James 1:12: Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will receive the **CROWN OF LIFE** that God has promised to those who love Him!
Revelation 2:10 Jesus says, �Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer... Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the **CROWN OF LIFE**!�
Matthew 5:11,12: Jesus says, �Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your **REWARD** in heaven!�
Hebrews 10:32-36: Remember those earlier days after you had received the Light, when you stood your ground in a great contest in the face of suffering. Sometimes you were publicly exposed to insult and persecution; at other times you stood side by side with those who were so treated. You sympathized with those in prison and joyfully accepted the confiscation of your property, because you knew that you yourselves had better and lasting possessions. So do not throw away your confidence; it will be richly **REWARDED**. You need to persevere so that when you have done the will of God, you receive what He has promised!
Dear friends let me send you to the old testament for your answer. When Solomon built the temple if I remember correctly- Israel had a music team that played music in the temple 24/7. That means they would have had several worship leaders and they would have lived off the people. Priest got food off the tithe. You will have to look this up on your own as I do not remember the verses. Dennis
Better to be more thorough. We need to run to obtain the prize? People it says run now to obtain a corruptible crown. Hey have received that reward already then. We bring our body into subjection, not to be free to sin, or we are those same castaways. They have received their crown and reward already, as do those who run to obtain the uncorruptible crown, they have that crown already..
1 Corinthians 9:24 Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain.
25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.
26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:
27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
Matthew 6:2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
We see the example, of them having their crowns removed from them. People who pretend to preach should really have sincerity enough to search better. The crown is removed from them, because they have those crowns already. Revelation proves that of course, telling us to hold fast that crown, so that NO MAN, takes that crown off of you. We need to overcome this world, as salvation is as dependent on all the conditions that are constantly told..
Job 19:9 He hath stripped me of my glory, and taken the crown from my head.
Ezekiel 21:26 Thus saith the Lord God; Remove the diadem, and take off the crown: this shall not be the same: exalt him that is low, and abase him that is high.
Revelation 3:11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
We have that trial of our faith now, when we have this incorruptible race, we do so for the right crown, not to obtain self seeking crown, but one that is kept by the power of God, so that you are honourable in all the things you did..
James 1:12 Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.
1 Peter 1:4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
6 Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations:
7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
They are rich already, they have that true crown. Christ gives them that crown of life, as there is no other, if they know how to be faithful till death, which is to not seek incorruption like everybody else. Those who live and believe shall never die, that is that crown of life and salvation, as they are one, the sasme as GO and the Lamb are one..
Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
There is no relationship with God, God is a consuming fire. Modern preaching/deceivers want you to believe that you can have a relationship with fire.
Everybody who sins must ask forgiveness for their sins. They must also ask why they keep working hatred towards their neighbour, who they are called to love instead.
Salvation may be free, but few there be that find it. It is free then if you CAN find it. It is not where most seek then, not in an easy way, not in a popular way, not in a way that costs you nothing, as it costs you everything in this life, it is the cost of faith, which we are saved by, faith in the worlds way of total selfishness and empty reasoning, or faith in all Christs example, harming nobody, meek, lowly, having nothing, persecuted and outcasted, leaving your comforts for the needs of others before you, is that love of God..
We are the temple of the living God, God walks in us and dwells in us, His place FOR EVER. The Holy Ghost/Spirit of Christ, the Spirit of truth, who the world cannot see nor receive or know the Father Lord God, but they knew Christ and we know Him, for He dwells with us and within us, Jesus does not lave us comfortless He comes to us, Christ left earth so we no longer know Him after the flesh, receiving us unto Himself, and He is within us in Spirit, where we go also entering the Kingdom of Heaven, which is within us, that is where Christ is and where we be also..
2 Corinthians 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Ephesians 2:22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
John 14:1-3 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
2 Corinthians 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
The Lord is in the air, not in the sky, the Lord is Spirit, just like the air, you do not see it, so is every one that is born of the Spirit, not knowing any man any more after the flesh to b e seen, we see through Gods eyes, which are very much Spirit. God dwells with us, already, and son the earth that had unrighteousness will be vanished too..
1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Revelation 21:1-3 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
John 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
Hi Dennis, we are not under the Old Covenant. In the NEW COVENANT there is no such term, function or person called WORSHIP LEADER. All worship is of the HOLY SPIRIT. Read 1st Corinthians chapters 11 - 14, this speaks of believers meeting with Messiah to have a meal with him.
There is no mention of elders, deacons, self proclaimed pastors, or WORSHIP LEADER.
The Apostles we know are the only ones entrusted to be stewards of the mysteries of God. heir example is a true one, suffering all the things they went through, to show the only example that is real, they did not receive payments, unless you count suffering greatly as a payment, but they were county worthy to suffer shame or His name sake,this is the real payment..
1 Corinthians 4:4 Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of Christ, and stewards of the mysteries of God.
2 Moreover it is required in stewards, that a man be found faithful.
3 But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self.
1 Corinthians 4:9 For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men.
10 We are fools for Christ's sake, but ye are wise in Christ; we are weak, but ye are strong; ye are honourable, but we are despised.
11 Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwellingplace;
12 And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it:
13 Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day.
14 I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you.
15 For though ye have ten thousand instructers in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.
16 Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.
James 5:10 Take, my brethren, the prophets, who have spoken in the name of the Lord, for an example of suffering affliction, and of patience.
Acts 9:16 For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake.
Acts 5:41 And they departed from the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer shame for his name.
Grace- I have always been of the view that the Temple was modeled after Gods throne room so it would not be old or new covenant. Plus Jesus said he came to fulfill the law not do away with it.
There is no more temple, as the individual believer is the temple of GOD Almighty.
1 Corinthians 3 verses 16-17
16Do you not know that you are a temple of God and [that] the Spirit of God dwells in you? 17If any man destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him, for the temple of God is holy, and that is what you are.
