Are you lost and without direction for your life? Let's be F.A.I.R.
Posted : 30 Oct, 2016 08:22 AM
The Meaning Of Life: "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. " - Jesus Christ John 17:3 To know God personally.
Our Greatest Purpose In Life: The greatest duty, and the greatest honor of man is to love the Lord our God. So said Jesus. Our purpose in life is to love God. More important than merely glorifying God, we get to love Him. God gets glory from rocks and the unsaved, but no love; so this is a great privilege.
Mark 12:30a "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength ..." See also Matthew 22:37, Luke 10:27 In the Greek this command includes the idea of "with all of your will" as well. Everything that we are, all day, every day.
And remember that we all need to understand that we have value. This value we have is set by God, in the same way one determines the value of a piece of art. It is not the inherent value of the component parts, nor it is based upon performance. The Mona Lisa sits on a wall doing nothing all day, and she doesn't even smile. The value is determined by what the buyer is willing to pay. For us, that value is the immeasurable value of God's payment for us. God bought us with priceless blood and life of Jesus Christ on the cross. When we have a good day, we do not add to our value; and when we have a bad day, our value is not diminished. When God calls us out on particular sin, He is not saying we are worthless. He is saying we need to be holy, as He is holy. We are not less valuable because of any particular sin. When God paid the price for us, He paid the same for Christians as well as non-believers, and sinner or saint, we all have that immeasurable worth. When the enemy is attacking you, and claiming you are worthless, always remember the blood and the life is your purchase price, and do not believe for a second you are worthless.
Do you feel cheated in life? Do you feel you are not being treated fairly? Raise your hand if you want to be treated fairly. Hold them up, nobody is looking. Are you "sure" you want fair? Sure you're sure? Really? Let's test that. Which of you thinks that if their next door neighbor kills someone, that you should pay for the crime, instead of your neighbor? No hands this time? Well, that's no surprise. Which of your thinks that if you commit a murder you should pay for it yourself? Okay, every last hand should be up at this point. I said murder, not justifiable homicide. The one who commits the murder is the one who should pay for it. Right? Right! That's what's fair. You commit the crime, you do the time. Someone else doesn't do it for you. So tell me again, which of you wants to be treated fairly? So, are you ready to be treated fairly? Right now? Okay, I see those hands! So you're ready to go to hell and pay for your own sin, RIGHT?! Because "the Wages of sin is death", not confession. Eternal separation from God and torment that never ends. That is what you have earned, your wages, what is fair. It wasn't fair for Jesus to pay for your sin on the cross. It wasn't fair that He should shed His blood and lay down His life when you are the one who did the wrong.
Wooohooo! "Give me fair! I demand fair! You're not treating me fairly!" This is the whine of the ingrate, who has the arrogance to claim they are not being treated fairly. When you woke up today, you were not in hell, getting what is fair. That alone should cause you to drop to your knees and thank God He doesn't treat us fairly. You don't want fair, because the real fair is spent in the real hell, with its real unthinkable horrors and torment, with total awareness of the sin that put you there, and the unending regret for having been so arrogant as to reject Christ.
Jesus didn't do anything wrong. It wasn't fair for Him to pay for our sin. Fair would be us paying for our own sin, and no person in their right mind wants fair. So stop complaining about being treated unfairly, and start thanking God for sparing you fair. Don't look at others and say what about him? "Peter, seeing him, said to Jesus, �But Lord, what about this man?� Jesus said to him, �If I will that he (x,y,z), what is that to you? You follow Me.� John 21:21-22
F.A.I.R.
F. - First know the Father and the Son. John 17:3
A. - After you know God, love God with everything you are. Mark 12:30a
I. - I am not worthless. I have the priceless value of the blood and life of Christ given for me.
Are you lost and without direction for your life? Let's be F.A.I.R.
Posted : 28 Nov, 2016 09:36 PM
I will add this one thing. This is the command:
"He has shown you, O man, what is good; And what does the Lord require of you But to do justly, To love mercy, And to walk humbly with your God?" Micah 6:8
He does not say make others do justly. He says you do justly, and He will take care of the others.
Are you lost and without direction for your life? Let's be F.A.I.R.
Posted : 28 Nov, 2016 11:00 PM
I�m sorry; I really can�t keep this up, because you�re going around and around just to say one thing. Stop complaining and blaming God, that Life is unfair. And I�ve already said I agreed with that. However during your argument you made some contradicting statements. Here are your quotes that contradict what you said:
�That is what you have earned, your wages, what is fair. It wasn't fair for Jesus to pay for your sin on the cross. It wasn't fair that He should shed His blood and lay down His life when you are the one who did the wrong.�
And then you said:
�If Christ had been forced to pay for sin, (see the context of my original post) it would have been unfair/unjust, as He had no guilt, nor responsibility to pay as a man. However, He elected to make the payment of His own free will. That was entirely just.�
The two above statements are complete contradicting. Because I was speaking in the eyes of man, not God which I clearly stated.
You said: �You are ignoring hundreds if not thousands of statements in scripture about God treating people unequally. There is no injustice in that. It is entirely fair, and just, and without any injustice of a man to pay for his own wrongs. �
Maybe you view God as treating people unequally, but I see it as not unequal but God treating people the way they deserved because of their sin. I�ll use your own quote to support that �People wonder why they constantly have trouble in their lives and constantly want to find someone else to blame.� And �He will crush you and start over as many times as He deems necessary to keep your attention.� It�s called consequences for your action.
And I�m not ignoring it, so don�t accuse me of such. However, I don�t view it as unequal!
For the last time I�m not talking about God being fair to man as you keep accusing me of doing so in such comments like:
�When Peter tried to assert that Jesus was being unfair in His treatment of him, it was totally demonic, and Jesus rebuked him to his face. John 21. Peter, like you, tried to impose his own idea of fairness upon God. God put him in his place instantly.� And �If you can't see that your idea of injustice is at odds with the actions of God, as clearly portrayed by Christ's exchange with Peter at the seaside after His resurrection, then I leave you to learn the lesson the hard way. God will instruct you personally.�
I never said any of the stuff you are accusing me of saying. Please stop twisting my words to make yourself sound righteous. So thank you for my hard lesson I�m going to receive from God from something I never said I believed.
My point is that it cannot be demonic to want to be treated fair by our fellow man. So you should reword your original point to clearly state that �People should stop complaining about God being unfair in their lives. To rebuke God for his chastisements in your life is demonic.� Not the idea of fairness. That was all I was trying to point out that you so brilliantly twisted.
Final thought, if the idea of fairness, equality is so demonic, then why in the scriptures that I listed included in His holy word. Because he�s talking about how we should treat others, not how he treats us.
Are you lost and without direction for your life? Let's be F.A.I.R.
Posted : 29 Nov, 2016 08:37 AM
You jumped into the middle of a discussion that was occurring in two threads. I'm not surprised you don't understand. When I initially said it wasn't fair for Jesus to die, I was speaking of Him being forced, though I did not state is clearly. But in the context of the whole post, and specifically about paying for my sin, I said it wouldn't be fair for someone else to pay for my murder. I thought it would be understood, in context, that I was saying forced to pay. No, it would not be fair to force someone to pay for a murder I committed. I think followed with it would not be fair for Jesus to pay for my sin. In context, I meant forced to pay, though I did not explicitly say it. I clarified that point. Unfair to force payment upon another. But Christ was not forced. He did it willingly. No man forced Him. There is no contradiction in those two distinct situations.
The main takeaway, is that you get treated better than fair every day. When you wake up and are not in hell, you got better than fair. I don't know how to make it any more plain. If you want fair, you are saying you are ready to pay for your own sin in hell. If you are not willing to pay for your own sin in hell, forever, then you are saying you don't want to be treated fairly. It's that simple. Now, do you want to go on complaining about not being treated fairly? If so, take it to God, and explain to Him why He is wrong to allow you to continue to suffer such indignities.
Are you lost and without direction for your life? Let's be F.A.I.R.
Posted : 29 Nov, 2016 03:42 PM
Are you reading what I'm writing? I don't think you are because how many times do I have to say that I AGREE with your point, just not the way you worded it. You keep judging me and accusing of believing certain things when I have kept my personal thoughts and situations completely out of this debate.
Please tell me where I said anything about it's OK to complain about life's problems that warrants you to say this to me: "Now, do you want to go on complaining about not being treated fairly? If so, take it to God, and explain to Him why He is wrong to allow you to continue to suffer such indignities." And YOU are assuming that I'm suffering such indignities! Where in my point did I say that was? So you're making stuff up now?
My only complaint with your original post is how you worded it. I never said it was wrong. But to say that the complete "idea" of fairness is not biblical is wrong. Expecting such treatment from God might be what you're argument was about. But anybody reading your message could take away that "I don't have to be fair towards others because God isn't fair with me." That was my only point. So please stop making assumptions on my life. I've lived a blessed filled life, with it's ups and downs like the rest of God's children. Am I complaining? NO!
We can agree to disagree, but as always stay Blessed!
