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By What Authority do Christians Ignore Passover to celebrate "Ishtar"?
Posted : 5 Apr, 2009 02:23 PM

The Celebration of Easter Is pagan from beginning to end.

And it is founded upon doctrines that deny Christs Claims.

AND

Easter was the Celebration of Ishtar before the Christian Era.

The celebration of Easter includes the baking and eating of hot cross buns on Good Friday

and the use of dyed eggs on Easter Sunday, which was prominent in the Chaldean religion.

And the hot cross buns were used in the worship of the queen of heaven, the goddess of Ishtar,

as early as the days of Cecrops, the founder of Athens, 1500 years Before the Christian Era!

The Easter egg is a rite of fertility, as is the Easter bunny, which has been associated with the Easter holiday.

So, Hidden behind the Easter celebration is the worship of sex as a god...

The god of "procreation", as being the power of preserving the human race.

As strange As It May seem There Is Actually

NO COMMANDMENT OR SUGGESTION Given by YHWH

In His WORD saying that we should even celebrate the resurrection of Yahshua...

I dont Know Why..

Perhaps He would rather have us Celebrate His Resurrection Every Time Someone Is "Reborn"?

I didnt write the rules, I'm just bringing them to your attention...If I'm wrong, please show me..



But The Bible Does clearly Say, Even By The Words of CHIRST HIMSELF that We Should Keep

A Commemorative Each Year To HIS DEATH!!! This is pictured in YHWH's Command to

Observe the LORD'S SUPPER each year at the Passover...Nothing about ishtar celebrations!



EASTER IS 100% TRADITION-WITH ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF

Any tradition of men that conflicts with YHWH's revelation must be dismissed as false doctrine.

In Ezekiel 8, Ezekiel is shown several abominations but the greatest abomination is found in 15 and 16:



Then said he unto me, hast thou seen this, O son of man?

Turn yet again,and thou shalt see greater abominations than these.

And he brought me into the inner court of the Lord's house,

and behold,

at the door of the temple of the Lord, between the porch and the altar,were about 25 men,

with their back toward the temple of the Lord, and their faces toward the east: And they worshipped the sun toward the east.



On Easter Sunday morning, when Christian are standing in the early morning darkness

with their backs toward their temple and awaiting the rising of the SUN,

Do they ever stop and wonder what they are really doing?



The Messiah asked (Thus Commanded) us to remember His death and to keep That Day as a Memorial.

THE CHRISTIAN WORLD DOES THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT CHRIST COMMANDED...

WHY IS THAT??? OR BETTER YET TELL ME "CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS"

WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES OF ANY SOLDIER DISOBEYING HIS COMMANDER?



For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lords death till He come

(1st.Cor.11:26)...Can anyone find a scripture that says we should commemorate His Resurrection.

I Think We Properly Commemorate His Resurrection Every Time A New Believer Rises From The Water



The memorial of His death is Sundown (not sunrise) on the 14th day of the first month-PASSOVER!!

The original Passover foreshadowed the Messiah. Christ's Crucifixion Fulfilled the Passover.

And It Is the Passover which is now kept in a new light, that we are to Commemorate.

And it is this Celebration that We even as Christians are told to remember until Messiah Returns

And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and you shall keep it a feast to the Lord through out

your generations ; YOU SHALL KEEP IT A FEAST BY AN ORDINANCE FOREVER

(Exodus.12:42).

Thou shalt therefore keep this ordinance in its season from year to year (Exodus 13:10),



Since the Lord our Savior Asks Us To Remember This VERY SAME DAY, is it JUST "JEWISH"?



Can we say it is no longer to be a memorial? The only difference now is that the true believer

recognizes the true meaning of Passover while the Common Jew remains in unbelief.

Although A Jew may not comprehend the true meaning of Passover, he still Remembers It;

Which is more than can be said for the so called Elect..NEW COVENANT BELIEVERS".



Some may argue that there is no longer a need to sacrifice a lamb, because Yahshua became our

Passover Lamb, ONCE AND FOR ALL. Some might also argue that All we need do now is "REMEMBER".

But the Biblical Command to the Observance & Remembrance of the Passover Feast is Clear.

But the Easter Traditions of hot cross buns & easter eggs & & deviled eggs holiday ham,

& waiting for the 1st beams of the sun on the unholy "day of the sun" are total abominations.

And they have absolutely nothing to do with the Resurrection of the Messiah.

on Sunday.

The event & the day that we are supposed to be remembering & commemorating is the Passover.

Which always falls on the 14th day of the 1st month of Abib, at the Setting of the sun.

If the Messiah arose on the 17th day of the month, which is a different day every year,

Why do Christians always celebrate on the pagan day of the sun on the pagan holiday Ishtar?



So What Are The Facts? The Tradition of Easter is a direct denial of the Messiahship of Christ!



As A Proof of His Messiahship, Yahshua said: "An evil and adulterous generaton seeketh after a sign,

and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:

for as Jonas was 3 days and 3 nights in the whale's belly;

so shall the Son of man be 3 days and 3 nights in

the heart of the earth. Matthew 12:39-40,



This is a very important statement that Christ made, and in view of the

Easter tradition

of Christ dying on Friday afternoon and being resurrected at sunrise on Sunday morning..

Well, then....

If this common Christian Misconception is true then His statement in Matthew 12:38-40 WOULD BE A LIE.



It is commonly taught today that Yahshua was crucified on Friday and that the resurrection occurred

about sunrise on Easter Sunday morning...But few professing Christians

have ever even given any thought to question or to prove this GOOD FRIDAY to EASTER

TRADITION.

The Bible tells us to prove all things, and you will be literaly astounded by this proof!



CHURCHES FACE A DILEMMA This one supernatural proof given by Yahshua as a Sign of His Messiahship

has greatly bothered the commentators and church leaders for years. And their attempts to

explain away this Proof of Christ's Messiahship are so ridiculous that they would be

humurous if they werent dealing with such a serious issue of mans doctrine versus YHWH's Truth.



But since they cant explain this 3 DAYS AND 3 NIGHTS, their Good Friday/Easter

tradition collapses.

Your church leaders say that Christ was only in the grave for 26 hours, by their teachings.



So What does your Bible say? Your Bible clearly defines the duration of nights and days.

Many of the so-called Christian scholars admit that, in the Hebrew language in which the book of

Jonah was written, the expression "3 days and 3 nights" means a period of

72 hours..

ie. 3-12 hour days and 3-12 hr.nights...Evening to Evening

(Gen.1:5) and the evening and the morning were the 1st day

Gen.1:8 and the evening and the morning were the 2nd day this is a

full cycle day.

Gen.1:13 and the evening and the morning were the 3rd day a full cycle

eve to eve=24 hrs,

Gen.1:19 and the evening and the morning were the 4th day this is a full cycle=24 hrs

Gen.1:23 and the evening and the morning were the 5th day a full cycle =24hrs.

Gen.1:31 and the evening and the morning were the 6th day a full cycle. 24 hours.



Or Leviticus 23:32: From even to even shall ye celebrate your Sabbath.



Yahshua was asked to give an identifying sign that He was the Christ, the Son of YHWH.

The sign that Christ said would prove Him to be the Son of God and our Savior

is found in Matthew 12:40,"

For as Johnas was 3 days and 3 nights in the whale's belly;

so shall the Son of man be 3 days and 3 nights in the heart of the earth"



Theologians have tried their best to deny this by saying "this is just an idiom, and that any

part of a day or a night could be considered as a whole day or night"...But that still doesnt fit!

But those who use this argument of idioms are just DECEIVING THEMSELVES AND Their Followers.

Yahshua staked His claim to being Our Savior upon remaining 3 days and 3 nights in the tomb.

If He had remained 3 days and 3 nights inside the earth, He would prove Himself

the Savior.

But if He failed in this Ultimate Prophetic Sign He would be rejected as a False Prophet.

It is no wonder Satan has set up a traditional celebration commemorating a Friday Crucifixion;

Followed 25 hours later by Sunday morning sunrise resurrection on the Ishtarian day of the sun.

Thereby denying the very sign that Yahshua Himself Prophesied as His Sign of Messiahship!



3 Full Days and 3 Full Nights = 72 hours not 26

BUT, WASN'T CHRIST AT LEAST RESURRECTED ON SUNDAY?



It is commonly taught in the Christian world that Christ was resurrected early Sunday Morn.

Therefore, it is an "observance of the resurrection" that people keep Easter Sunday

and nothing to do with an observance of the pagan rituals as I am implicatung here.



If Christ had been resurrected on Sunday, perhaps there would be some excuse for

Some sort of remembrance on Sunday each year in commemoration of Yahshua's

resurrection.

But Again, go to your Bible and search the scriptures diligently to see if there is

any mention by YHWH that we should observe or celebrate, the resurrection of

Yahshua.

As you study your Bible you will find no such thing...But we are told to Search

the Scriptures dilligently to prove all things (John.5:39; 1 Thesalonians 5:21)



In the Scriptures we see that Every day begins at the evening sunset..So it is actually

The evening sunset that begins each new day and the evening sunset ends

the old day.

YHWH plainly says that the 1st day began at sunset, and the following sunset ended the 1st day

and that sunset began the 2nd day.



And the Truth is that Yahshua was put into the Tomb shortly before sunset on a Wednesday.

And after 3 full days & 3 full nights he was resurrected at the dawning of the 1st day.

He was not resurrected at dawn, before the rising of the sun as is commonly taught.

but as "the sun set" on the Sabbath(Saturday) THE SON Arose, at the Dawn of the 1st Day.

As the sun set Saturday Night..72 hours after he was placed in the sepulchre on Wednesday.



Part of the confusion arises from a basic misunderstanding of the Nature of Passover.

the Passover was a High Sabbath, which is different than the weekly Saturday Sabbath.

And part of the confusion comes from the verses of Mark 16:9-20 (which are questionable).

Many Bibles claim that this was not a part of the original text...And it is these verses

that give rise to the common misconception that the Dawning of the day was synonymous

with the rising of the sun before the dawning of day..but remember the day Dawns at SunSET.



So with that in mind lets look at Luke 23:54 where it says "and that day was the preparation,

and the Sabbath drew on"...It was the preparation for the Passover. And John 19:14 says

that it was the preparation of the Passover(on the 14th)..and then it says that The next day

was a HIGH SABBATH (the 15th). The Jews,therefore,because it was the (day of)preparation,

that the body should not remain upon the cross on the Sabbath day, for that day

was an HIGH DAY,

besought Pilate that their legs might be broken and that they might be taken away, (John.19:31).

The Wednesday crucifixion day (on the 14th) was the day before the HIGH SABBATH (on the 15th),

The Messiah died after 3:00 p.m., the 9th hour, on the 14th day and had to be buried

before sundown about 6:00p.m.,the twelth hour. So Sundown began the HIGH SABBATH(the 15th).

"So these high priest, upon the coming of their feast which is called

the Passover"

when they slay their sacrificial Lambses, from the 9th hour to the 11th hour.



The Messiah died at the exact time that the Passover lambs were being slain. Matthew 28:1.

After the Sabbath..(and there were two that week), The 15th was the High Passover Sabbath

and the 17th was the weekly Commandment Sabbath, Saturday.



AND WHEN THE SABBATH WAS PAST, Mary Magdalene,and the mother of James,

and Salome,

had bought sweet spices,that they might come and anoint Him (Mark.16:1).

After a Sabbath was past, the women bought spices to anoint the Messiah,and they returned,

and prepared spices and ointments, and RESTED THE SABBATH DAY,according to the commandment(Lk.23:56).

These two verses do not contradict each other, Mark was referring to

the HIGH SABBATH

(Thursday,the 15th),the women bought the spices after this Sabbath was over, they bought

and prepared the spices on Friday, the 16th and rested on the commandment Sabbath (Saturday),

So, we see there were 2 Sabbaths that week THEREFORE, the Messiah died

aftert the 9th hour

3:00p.m. Roman time on Wednesday in the "THE MIDST OF THE WEEK". And put in the grave

just before the 12th hour sundown, which is also the beginning of the 15th the HIGH SABBATH.

He lay in the grave all night and all day Thursday, the 15th (THE HIGH SABBATH) He lay in the grave all night and all day Friday, and all night Friday,the 16th

While the women prepared the burial spices.



He lay in the grave all night and all day Saturday, the 17th(weekly Sabbath)..

And He arose from the grave just before sundown 6:00 p.m. on Saturday,the weekly Sabbath.

He arose exactly 72 hours after He was buried," EXACTLY 3 DAYS AND 3 NIGHTS," just as He said.

And That Was the Proof That He Himself Promised & Prophesied that would proove His Messiahship!

So Again, Who Are You Gonna Believe Folks. Mans doctrines & traditions??

Or the WORD Of YHWH?

The True WORD of Messiah or the false words of the world?



The Truth about the Resurrection after 3 days & 3 nights has been covered up from the start:



Matthew 27:62-66 Now the next day, that followed the day of the preparation, the chief priests and Pharisees came together unto Pilate,

Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, After three days I will rise again.

Command therefore that the sepulchre be made sure until the third day, lest his disciples come by night, and steal him away, and say unto the people, He is risen from the dead: so the last error shall be worse than the first.

Pilate said unto them, Ye have a watch: go your way, make it as sure as ye can.

So they went, and made the sepulchre sure, sealing the stone, and setting a watch.



Matthew 28 continues talking about the conspiracy-from the start-behind this grand delusion:



Matthew 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.

Mat 28:2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.

Mat 28:3 His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow:

Mat 28:4 And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men.

Mat 28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.

Mat 28:6 He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.

Mat 28:7 And go quickly, and tell his disciples that he is risen from the dead; and, behold, he goeth before you into Galilee; there shall ye see him: lo, I have told you.



Mat 28:11 Now when they were going, behold, some of the watch came into the city, and shewed unto the chief priests all the things that were done.

Mat 28:12 And when they were assembled with the elders, and had taken counsel, they gave large money unto the soldiers,

Mat 28:13 Saying, Say ye, His disciples came by night, and stole him away while we slept.

Mat 28:14 And if this come to the governor's ears, we will persuade him, and secure you.

Mat 28:15 So they took the money, and did as they were taught: and this saying is commonly reported among the Jews until this day.



Now there are some verses that seem to indicate that the 2 Marys arrived at the sepulchre

While it was still dark before the sun rose...But THE SON Had Already Rose, by then BUT,

Just As HE Said, After 3 Days & 3 Nights. So HE was in the grave for a full 72 Hours.

The 3 nights of Wednesday, Thursday & Friday...The 3 Days of Thursday, Friday & Saturday.

Therefore Rising about Sundown after the Saturday Sabbath, but before the 1st Day Dawned.



There is a verse of scripture which would seem to prove that the Messiah rose from the grave on Sunday morning.

"Now after He had risen early on the 1st day of the week"..(Mark.16:9)



It is interesting to note that Mark 16:9-20 are not found in any of

the most ancient manuscripts.

It was inserted hundreds of years after the Apostles by the early Roman Church. The New International Version notes: The most reliable early manuscripts omit Mark 16:9-20.

Oxford NIV Scofield Study Bible Notes: Verses 9-20 are not found

in the two most

ancient manuscripts, the Sinaiticus and Vaticanus; but the passage is quoted by Irenaeus and Hippoltus in the second or third century (2 Roman Catholic saints).

The Living Bible Notes: Verses 9-20 are not found in the most ancient manuscripts,

but may be considered and appendix giving additional facts.

The Jerusalem Bible Notes: Many manuscripts omit vs.9-20, and this ending to the gospel

may not have been written by Mark, although it is old enough.

The New English Bible Notes: At this point (verse 8) some of the most ancient

witnesses bring the book to a close.

Revised Standard Version Notes: Some of the most ancient authorities bring the book to a close

at the end of verse 8

Phillips Modern English Notes: An alternate ending found in certain manuscripts follows verse 8.

Good News for Modern Man gives "an old ending to the gospel and then another old ending"

Bible scholars admit that Mark 16:9-20 are not part of the Bible...So why are they there?



It seems to me that it is an intentional deception. And it seems to me that Christians

Bought the whole lie, hook, line & sinker...But its not too late to repent of this abomination.

You can participate in the lie of the celebration of ishtar as the catholic church ordains..

Or You Can Follow The Commands of The Chief Commander,

The CHRIST, The Messiah, & Honor & Obey the Passover Lamb By Remembering & Observing

The Passover Lamb,in HIS Season. & The Ultimate Sacrifice That HE Made, on That Passover.



:prayingm:May :bow:YHWH:bow: Bless The Wise Who Hear:prayingm:

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Posted : 13 Apr, 2009 08:41 PM

Good post Dan!!



If you want to hear a great sermon on this then go to www.oasischristianchurch.org and listen to Sunday's broadcast.



Blessings!

Walter

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Posted : 17 Apr, 2009 09:07 PM

Thanks GraceGrace for you input..You are Absolutely soooo right:applause:

Yea it seems that so many seem to look at any sort of obediance to YHWH as if it was some great burden..while it is meant to be a joy & a blessing to us...Not that the Passover is a really joyous occasion at all but it is meant as a blessing...I mean if we consider the preservation of our lifes as a blessing.

Because afterall that was what the 1st Passover was about wasnt it!!

Those who obeyed were Passed Over by the Angel of Death''

Speaking of which...

did anyone hear about the Easter Sunday Plane crash that killed 7 children & 7 adults mostly of the family of the owner of a whole bunch of abortion "clinics"...

Yea, they fell out of the sky for no known resaon on Easter Sunday & crashed a few feet from an Unborn Childrens Memorial at a Catholic cemetery owned by some kind of Ressurection Sunday Organization?



I didnt get to see that thing you gave the link to Walter because YHWH was Raining down tears soo heavy all day sunday that I couldnt get any broadband reception At All.

But here is a Christian News Wire Link that tells the story behind the story of the plane crash.



http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/646579835.html



Blessings To You All Who Hear :prayingm:

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Posted : 29 Apr, 2009 02:09 AM

so we cant worship God on those pagan holidays?



can i worship God on holloween?



i dont get what this is conversation is about... i think we all agree that easter started out as a pagan holiday, and many are confused by it... but that doesnt stop them from worshipping the God of the bible and not the actuall holiday... well a lot of people do celebrate the holiday... and thats where the mistake is made.



sooo i dont think any holiday should be celebrated... but i see nothing wrong in celebrating God on those holidays.

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Posted : 30 May, 2009 08:12 AM

I think sometimes as christians we can get divided by theses kinds of discussions. For me, any time I can worship and remember my wonderful Jesus is awesome.

I do believe that as christians we need to go back and learn Jewish ways and celebrations. God chose to put His son into that culture for a reason so maybe we need to learn and respect that.



We remember what Jesus did for us on Easter ( as every day) and at Christmas we honor His birth ( even if it's not His real b-day).

Jodi

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