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Posted : 9 Mar, 2009 06:09 PM

could someone explain to me what numerology is and give and give me scripture to back up why it is bad.

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Posted : 12 Mar, 2009 11:13 PM

Ryan,

Sure there is... I just went to the site and there is a full page article explaining it. The article is titled What Is Biblical Numerology?



Try it again and make sure you have all the letters.

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Posted : 12 Mar, 2009 11:19 PM

OK, This Dream was very simple..

It showed the Simple Equation of 9 + 2 = 11, & then a Voice said "Add It Twice".



It was posted at the Yahoo Group called Infinity Bible Codes on 3/11 the same day & shortly after I posted the same Time Line that is on my Profile Page...So it would help if you read that document.



Here is my interpretation:



According to the "Anagramic Interpretation of Numbers for Prophetic Purposes"

which I have tried to teach for many years this number sequence of "9, 2 & 11"

Literally Translates As "A Triple Whammy Warning(9) To(2) Witness(11)or Testify of..."

If you add it twice we get 2 11's so the sequence would be 9,2,11,& 11.

I have also talked about this "11:11 Thing" many times...as have many others.



Another thing that I have tried to teach about numbers is that since the flesh is contrary to the Spirit,

the best interpretation of numbers always comes by

reversing them,

so we now see the sequence as 11, 11, 2, 9...ie 11/11/2009 which would represent the 70th Week of Daniel within the Larger time frame of the 70th Week of The SON.



I do agree with you Bonnie that this very well could be the timing of the 2nd Judgement upon that great city of mystery babylon the great.



Even though the Solar Timeline of the Final 70th week would start "around" 10/4

the actual 2520 days of Daniels 70th would start on this exact day of 11/11/2009

if we used the Jewish system of counting days (using 11/11 as the 1st day

instead of 11/12 as we would count them here in the U.S.)



So the first of those 3 "Triple Whammy Warnings" to Judgement would be the 3 days & 3 nights in the grave,

that most "Christians" refuse to recognize...Thereby Denying the Words Of Yahshua Himself & Denying the Clear

Testimony of Scripture.



The 2nd Warning came with the Lunar 70th Week, which although no one recognized it as that,

they did hear of it through the old Hal Lindsay theory that said

The Generation that saw the Rebirth of Israel would see the Return of Christ...

Which is actually true still if we could count a "Generation as 70 years instead of 40.



And the 3rd warning came as Daniels 70th Week, in 92 calculated from the Crucifixion instead of all the other relevant things...

Now that 70th which started in 92(9+2) started in the 11th Month TOO.

So If you Add Another 11 to that 11 we see that it does start on 11/11 Too,

with both of them then ending on the same 10/4/16 date...similar (in some ways)to the 4/16 Crucifixion date..(which was also a little mistake in the wording in my original post).



Anyway, I hope this helps...I had a better version wrote up earlier

but the internet Ate It Up (SCREAMING LOUDLY)...So I guess I will copy this one before I punch send!!!



If this doesnt answer your question let me know & I will expound on it some more..



YAH Bless Y'All



Daniel

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Posted : 12 Mar, 2009 11:20 PM

Dan, is correct Ryan, just try it again.



Dan, you make me laugh:ROFL:... so where is the dream information you promised? LOL:zzzz:...



BTW, and stop thanking the devil... that's a no. no, he just might take you serious:excited:



Lay out yur dream information andlet's see what we can come up with... :winksmile:



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Posted : 12 Mar, 2009 11:55 PM

OK Ella, you Seem Eager to Try this Dream Interpretation Stuff :bouncy:



But I already gave 1 interprettion for that one BUT:dancingp:

I have another (of many) Numbers Dreams...

So let me give You a freash start here with a very neat dream from a very reputable person.



A Pastor & State Representative in Hawaii...Daniel Paul Degracia



This was several years ago but the message is even more relevant for today...

And I did a "Several Pages" interpretation of it...So Here It Is:



From Daniel Pauls Post #777 on Malkhut Yahweh Avodahs Club (A Yahoo Group)



From time to time, I have seen visions, images, people, and places in my dreams,

only to later in life discover that they were real events.



As a Christian, I now take very seriously what I see in my

dreams because I know that sometimes - just sometimes -

there may be a prophetic element in what I see.



Yesterday I had a peculiar dream in which I was sitting across a table from a well dressed man.

The man before me had sandy blonde hair, a slender build, and was immaculately dressed.



For whatever reason, I knew that this man was evil.

I remember suddenly knowing (or being told)

that the man before me was the anti-Christ.



At that point in time, I was given a paper

in which I signed my name.

Instead of my usual signature appearing,

a series of U-shaped icons

appeared before me as if they had been

laser printed on the paper.

I saw three U U U icons in a row,

with a numeric sequence of

12, 3, and 5 above the icons.

A voice in my head said,

"This is the mark of the Beast"

and I think I said what I heard in my head.



I then passed the sheet of paper to the man before me,

and he drew his own interpretation of the icons,

except his version had the third 'U' shape turned to the right.

The numbers above his were 12, 3, and 6.

(I've made a PowerPoint presentation of it online at

http://lonestar.jpl.utsa.edu/danield/ID.ppt)



The man then circled the icons with a red pen and said,

"I'll have to remember this." I then got up from my seat

and walked away. That was the end of the dream.



If you get a chance, please take a look at these icons

and tell me what you think.



Any Ideas on this one Ella...Or Any One?

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Posted : 13 Mar, 2009 12:15 PM

Oh, Danny, Oh Danny Boy, the pipes are calling.... LOL



I thought you had a dream about something simple, like going to the corner store to buy some Zantac, only to find out that you didin't have enough money, and what you diid have, dropped on the floor and rolled to the feet of a person who was wearing a pink suit and he had purple wings:purpleangel::ROFL::excited:...



orry, This one is too heavy for me...:nahnah:



But I will say about the icons, maybe, just maybe God is trying to tell you something.... you've been on the computer too long, and need a break:yay:...



Dan, I don't have a clue as to what this dream means, and I don't think anyone does... but pray for intrepretation and God will reveal all things to you according to what He desires for you to know.



I love your humor... the joy of the Lord is our strength. And laughter is the best medicine for the soul, mind, body and spirit. It prevents many sicknesses and diseases, because it lessens stress...



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Posted : 13 Mar, 2009 02:22 PM

I think you read it too quickly Ella...This is Daniel Paul DeGracias Dream.



He is A Pastor & State Representative in Hawaii...No Zantec Problems with Him or Me:ROFL:



Why would you think no one could interpret it??? I went to the library for my alloted 1 hour a day (as Always back then) & rambled off & Posted Page after Page of interpretations as fast as i could type for several days.



It deals with the anti-christ & the mark of the beast why would anyone dismiss this lightly???



Break It Down Girl...whats so hard about it.



Daniel signed His name but his signature appeared as 3 U Icons.

Representing Body, Soul, Spirit...

A voice in his head tried to tell Him that He was bad...

And so was the Sharp Sandy Blonde Haird man in front of Him.

That man seemed to be trying to tell him something about the #5, by knocking over a #6...

The secondary interpretation of #5 is A "Martyr" (5th Seak Martyrs of Rev.6:9. The Blonde Man in the Dream was Me.

I was there teaching & also taking nortes to try to bring back from my dreams...I have appeared in a few peoples visions & dreams.



Is Anything Making Any Sense to You, Or Anyone Yet???

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Posted : 14 Mar, 2009 09:34 AM

Whoops..No wonder You Dont Have A Clue Ella...I Forgot to Include The Clues. Sorry...



But U C The Clues Are in THE NUMBERS & Dates & Things!!!

The Higher Language Of YHWH, & Of His Prophets, & Of His Martyrs.



Daniel Paul DeGracia Pastor & State Rep. in Hawaii) had this Dream on 12/11...He posted it On 12/12...Daniel Paul was Born on 11/21/(79)...But I didnt know that when I 1st started interpreting this Dream...I was born 3/11, & My 777 Daniel on 3/20/77@7:07(just FYI)



Ella, Your Reaction to this Dream Is Absolutely Typical...

Not A Clue..& Dont Think Anyone can Truelly Think They Do

(Paraphrased quote)



But this was my 1st reaction to Daniels Pauls Dream:



So I will call this Part 1 of Daniel the Prophets Interpretation of Daniel the Pastors Dream about the antichrist & mark of the beast:



I saw your Visionary dream that U posted 12/12 as Message #777

I didnt even have time-then-to print it out B4 i got logged off

But I said

Wow! Daniel posting a Prophetic Dream n the #777 Spot!



Theres One I have 2 C; I must remember This; But somehow I 4got

until the other day when Jaimes said something to the effect of

"I didnt know that U(I) look for Numeric Meanings (too?) in The Post #s



I maintain that even though i may be one of Just A Few Wise Men

who does read meanings N2 the numbers & anagrams that I C being

written all around,

I C that all the Wise Ones R actually doing this "Writing on the Wall N Numbers"...And Some Quite Fluently



I dont know if U have commented on the "#s" thing that Jaimes & I were discussing at the time, But I believe that Numbers often

Speak Louder Than Words, So let me say Thanks for Your Comments & for Your Great Insights & Triple Witness to What We All 3 Said...

Even though I realize that what U testified of, & Revealed to Us through this "Numeric Language N Numbers", N Your Prophetic Dream

may not even agree with what U have been told, or (now)_believe



But a paradox now occurs when U C that I disagree with what the mysterious voice was telling U;

But the interpretation given by the one perceived as evil by U...It sounded 100% True to Me U C ?

I could not have said (or illustrated) it any better myself.

That may be why the one perceived as evil literally "Made

A note of" the Icon Illustration & said "I have to remember This"

But that prbably isnt the inflection that U remember there?

Nor do I deny that there R always dualities & dual meanings



The Dream-from the Icons to the Numbers-Seems Self Explantory;

& it concurs 100% with the WORD-And What I Believe & Teach

And the numeric meanings R so simple 4 U 2 C, if U just believe



The 1st thing that we can look at about your dream is the date:

12/11 is(from the top): 1+2=3 so 12/11 is similar to 3/11=Me Too

Or1+1=2 so 12/11 could also be 12/2 or 3/2 =3/20=Little Daniel

With Daniel Paul as the Dreamer We've got a Triple Daniel Dream

The 3rd Witness is N Daniels Name & A Witness of the 3/11s Thing

We saw even B4 9/11, that #11 can be a "Witness" or "Judgement"

Because 9=Triple Warn; & 11=The 2 Witnesses Who Bring Judgement

(It seems they appear after Daniel & Dan Shake Things Up A Bit)



#3-to me-has always been the Warning Sign of Jonahs Declaration

#7=Daniel..So it was a 777 Dream Even B4 Daniel posted it as Message #777

And so far everything weve got just came from the Date & a Name



So B4 I even know the dream I C it concerns Daniels Prophecies

And just like N Daniels Prophecies the Mysteries R N the #s Too



Daniel posted it on 12/12 @ 3:17 & 3/17 Represents Jonahs B-day

Jonathan-My Nephew (1/2 Brother of Little Daniel) was born 3/17



Today, 1/11, I heard Bush signed a 317 Billion $ Defense Budget

With an Additional 320 Billion $s Added on, Just for Terrorism!

On 1/11 @ 1 PM the 1st combat Casualty of this war just went

N2 the ground Right Here N My City of Kent-What R the Odds of that?

4 months to the day. #4 Completes the 4 Compass points of a circle

We just came full circle with what started & ended here-U C ?

Now we R ready for the 2nd round. All news ties to the Prophecies



We C again Daniel posted the dream 12/12; & 12 12s or 12X12=144

So we C again another Sign of Witnesses here too; We C the 144K

So the Dream is "One To Witness"/"12/11" Or "One To (the) Two

Or 1+2=3 so 12/12 = 3/3= The Double Warning Sign of Jonah

IE "One To Warn #6"("1+2+3=6") & 3/17 =My Nephew JONa AT HANd

Because Yahweh Created My Family to be like Rosetta stones U C



The 3 "UUU" Icons Reveal Your Real Identity as a Child Of Light

The U's U saw came from your own hand as Higher Emanations of U

They show the Total U: Body/Mind/Spirit; Shown as U12, U3, & U5

A very Noble combination of #s that denotes a High Calling



U#1) 12 says-2 me-U R Physically of the 12 Tribes of Israel U C

U#2) 3 says-2 me-Your mind Set is to Warn & Proclaim-Like Jonah

U#3) 5 says-2 me-U R A Danite N Spirit(But U R Free to disagree)

But-2 me-that is a Big Compliment-But I Bet U heard Differently



N its most basic & simplest form 1+2+3+5=11 (Sign of Witnesses)

Or we could say 12+3+5=20; But 20=2 Overcomers so= 2 Witnesses

Then again even the 3.5 is again also a sign of the 2 Witnesses

So this depiction of UUU as "One To 3 5" is a very high calling

Or we could say that the 1235 says "One To 3 5's"...It says both

When U C what 555 represents U may think its bad; But it is not

A voice indeed even said to U, This was "the mark of the beast"

And U think U repeated what the voice N the dream said to U

But we know from Revelation that #666 is the bad one-not #555



Then N your Dream the one U thought was antichrist sets U right

There R many Christians & Jews who teach antichrist is of Dan

I believe this is a lie that satan has spread because he knows

that it will be the 555s & 777s who will keep "666" restrained



Now b4 we go on lets take another look at this mysterious voice

we dont know who it is-but sounds to me-like it it speaking lies

so I will guess its a lying voice of the world; from U know who



And that suspiscious looking guy the voice didnt like-must be Me

Slender with sandy blonde hair? Sounds like me...Thinks like me

And it wouldnt be the 1st time I showed up N A Persons Vision

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Posted : 14 Mar, 2009 12:44 PM

Dan, I hate to say it, but I think you are reading way too much into things.

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Posted : 14 Mar, 2009 01:31 PM

Ryan, Your Question Was What IS Numerology & Why is it Bad. Since Everyone here has admitted that there are no scriptural taboos related to Numbers..QUITE TO THE CONTRARY..



I am just showing You How YHWH Uses it to TRY To Spek to Us.



I am telling you that Numerology Is Simply Math & Numbers ..

and that YHWH Uses This Simple Math & Numbers As a Language..This Anagramic use of Numbers IS A New Revelation to you but Very Old to Me Now.



This Language is being Spoken Universally to Christians...

But Yea...No One Else understands it either...



And the devil has convinced you all that its bad :devil: & dangerous to "read" "meanings" into YHWHs Numbers.



I Bind you :boxing:satan In The Name Of :bow:YAHSHUA:bow:

I Command u satan In The Name Of :bow:YAHSHUA:bow:

To Loose your grip on these peoples minds:angeldevil:

Be Gone satan that They May Perceive the Prophecies.



Thank You Father For Giving Us Authority over even satan,

In YAHSHUAS' Name...

...



I am just showing You 1 Reputable, Documented, Example Here...."



The Wise WILL Understand"..Sometime.. i dont know When....

But dont feel like The Lone Ranger Ryan; People have been

trying to tell me my that ideas are pure hogwash for years..:dunce::laugh:.

But rarely with such nice words:peace:



:buddies:



May YHWH Give You Understanding & Wisdom:prayingm:



Daniel

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Posted : 14 Mar, 2009 02:06 PM

Daniel,



I have known many who use the same type numerical references that you do. While it seems odd to anyone unfamiliar with this, it is surprisingly accurate. God gave us numbers for a reason.



The Hebrew people understand the importance of numbers much more than we do. They have always understood that God speaks to us through many things.



I looked at your assessment of the dream, and the only thing I thought that was unusual was your assumption that the man in the dream was you. I do not know your reasoning behind that, but I do assume that you have a reason to believe that way. I don't have the patience to study the numbers like that, but I would never presume to say you are wrong.



Blessings,

Leon

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