I am a little confused as well. I do agree with much of what you write, as I have some understanding of biblical history and the deceptions that Satan has tried to pull off over the centuries. Especially concerning the coming of Christ and Satan's attempt to place Tumuz(spelling?) in His place by that same deception. So, I could see a deception of these proportions going on in this day and age.
However, I would like some clarification on how the world was deceived into this, if you are saying that ALL modern Israel is false, or only the southern part, and where are the true Israelites? If you don't mind answering these things.
Your thesis is actually quite interesting. I found parts confusing, but not badly.
Do you believe those who call themselves Jews today (of which I am a PHYSICAL DESCENDENT but I know who I was BEFORE I became a SPIRITUAL ISRAELITE) are synonomous with the term 'Israel'? Because if in fact you do, that means that they, ACCORDING TO PROPHECY, represent the INTEGRITY OF AUTHORITY (which is the very DEFINITION of "israel" who brings YHWH great glory by their DEEDS in the end days ACCORDING TO PROPHECY)...we are to EXEMPLIFY by our deed which bring him GREAT GLORY in the end days).
Because if you believe that the 'state' of israel that exists there now IN FULL CONTROL AND POWER represents a SPIRITUAL PEOPLE known as Israel in the end days,THEN ANSWER ME THIS:
Why if in fact my fellow 'jews' by physical lineage argument is true, that the Palestinians are really the end-time,"Edom" with whom they are in a 'controversy over zion' ACCORDING TO THE PROPHECIES (which I have spent years in trying to articulate to MY FELLOW ISRAELITES), why then are not the Palestinians in FULL CONTROL AND POWER AND DECEIVING THE NATIONS IN ORDER TO BRING SATAN TO HIS THRONE BEFORE MESSIAH COMES TO OVERTHROW HIM AS THE PROPHECIES CLEARLY TEACH EDOM IS DOING IN THE END. In other words:
If the Palestinians represent EDOM as my fellow 'Jews' CLAIM, why are they in control as the BOOK clearly says EDOM IS DOING in the end. And what then does that make persons who believe in SPIRITUAL THINGS that are physically discerned by their FRUIT 'the things they do ACCORDING TO THE BOOK, does that make people like me who believe in SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED THINGS crazy as the world will claim...or does that make the WORLD CRAZY as the BOOK says would happen in the END OF DAYS under and EDOMITE DECEPTION in a CONTROVERSY OVER ZION.
These are mere rhetorical questions for you to ponder. You really do not need to attempt to understand them. YHWH has used you as a tool to get his END TIME MESSAGE OUT TO THE WORLD and I appreciate your help.
'these are mere rhetorical questions which you do not need to attempt to ANSWER (I erroneously put 'understand' here...HUGE error...please forgive me) at this time.
YHWH blesses those who DILIGENTLY seek his face; I pray he bless YOU! (please note the condition for blessing;)
There is great disappointment in the spiritual aspect of the modern state of Israel, among true believers. They have one of the lowest percentages of believers per capita among nations that profess to be followers of God.
So, if we are speaking of the spiritual realm, it is possible that the true Israel is there, living with the false Israel. Is this what you are trying to get across? That we have put too much emphasis on the bloodline, and not enough on the spiritual aspect of the Jew?
Brother Martin, simply put: Spiritual ISRAEL in the last days comes into a STRUGGLE with SPIRITUAL Edom in a controversy over Zion. The book gives us clear instruction on which is which by the specific PROPHECIES in regard to EACH which EXPOSES an IMPOSTER in the end. It is the very nature of the struggle of good and evil until evil (and therefore, deception) is finally VANQUISHED by HIS TRUTH WHICH EXPOSES THE LIAR!
True, SPIRITUAL Israel was REMOVED 2000 years ago so that the ANTI-MESSIAH could come to his throne through an end time WORLD DECEPTION which IS at the CENTER OF THE STAGE iN a CONTROVERSY OVER ZION where SATAN comes as the WORLDS MESSIAH before the TRUE MESSIAH and his FAITHFUL REMNANT FINALLY OVERCOME HIM. Ob 1:21 and THEN AND ONLY THEN does the kingdom become YHWH's. Until that time it is VIOLENT MEN TRYING TO SEIZE THE KINGDOM BY VIOLENCE.
We are not to fear our SPIRITUAL BROTHER EDOM as he kills us. HE IS SELF DECEIVED and his ONLY HOPE is to see us die for the truth even as our HEAD DID when he BEGAN this SPIRITUAL ATONEMENTS RITUAL 2000 years ago. Only true israel overcomes and that by their FIATH IN THE AUTHOR OF THE BOOK WHICH TELLS US THE END FROM THE BEGINNING SO WE WILL SEE, BELIEVE, AND BRING HIM GREAT GLORY THROUGH OUR ACTIONS BASED ON THAT FAITH BASED ON THE OBJECTIVE REALITY OF A BOOK THAT WAS CLEARLY WRITTEN FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF ONE WHO IS IN TOTAL CONTROL OF EVERYTHING!
I believe the AUTHOR of that BOOK and I have come to bring this END TIME MESSAGE as foretold IN THAT BOOK which is the OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE of my own existence! I WILL DIE DEFENDING THE TRUTHS IT TEACHES (which expose my murderous brother Edom by his ACTIONS) AS A MAN OF INTEGRITY A TRUE ISRAELITE, AN AMBASSADOR OF YHWH! Will YOU follow me even as I follow HIM?
Sir, I Perceive That You Are A Prophet & I Understand much of what you are talking about & I seem to Agree in Spirit with all that I have heard you say..even though I have just now found this thread..& have not read Your Thesis yet; but only the conversation here & I can see that some of your Jewish based terminology is not as familiar within the Christian World as it should be..But I assure you you are talking to some very sincere Godly people here, as You have perceived, who are eager to learn. You are talking of things & Questions that I have restled with too, & I have Great Need of instruction on some of these things.
I myself believe that I am a direct descendant of the Tribe of Dan through the line of Samson, who was of Zorah where the Zerah line of Judah lived with the Danites on land that is mysteriously listed as Judahs posession & Dans posession.
I also find that it was unusual that when listing the ancestry of Christ, Davids wife Bath-sheeba is called Bath-shua, who was the one that playede harlot to get Judah himself to father Her son after YHWH killed his 1st 2 sons rather than let them impregnate her. There is a point to all that...but thats off the subject for now...I guess the quick point might be that there are a lot of mysteries & misconceptions on the part of the Jews & Other Israelites & Christians & unbelievers Alike that are about to be Exposed...
I Am Happy to Meet You Brother, & I am sure that "I AM" is happy that We Met Too!
I just wanted to Welcome you real quick before I go read Your Thesis...and also ask a couple quick questions that might help clarify things for myself & others here...Because many Christians & Jews are not even aware of the concept of Lost Israel or the House of Israel vs House of Judah..let alone Edomites & Jews; & Palestinians & Philistines etc. So bear with us as we try to get some understnding on some definitions & stuff...
So I guess this would be my simple statement/question.
The House of Judah (southern Israel) was only composed of descendants of Judah, Levi & the remnant of Benjamin...
the northern kingdom of the house of Israel(or Ephraim) are the 10 lost tribes who were scattered & have mingled among all the nations & lost their identity as Israelites...but will be regathered to Israel again & Joined with Judah again in the end days...I have never actually stated this before but I have believed in my own mind for many years that every christian on earth today of every nation race & tongue is a descendant of Ancient Israel..which leaves me with the belief that the only true "Gentile" is an unbeliever. the rest of us are Israelites by blood...but not Jews..but subject to the Covenants of Israel; And at The Very Least Should Remember the Sabbath Day..There really is No Way around that one Folks... But where are the True Jews today? I dont understand that part of it...Arent they the Sabbath & Torah Keepers in Jerusalem today...I dont understand that part..
Yet? The palestinians are like philistines to me..I understand some about Edomites..but Can you clarify Edomites More & Clearly state Where The True Jews Are today if not in Jerusalem..? Or have I misunderstood something in my haste?
May
YHWH
Bless You Bro!
Daniel
Like many Christians I myself have not had much cont
I appreciate your feedback brother dan. I am sorry but there is no simple way for me to answer your question. I must liken it to trying to discuss deep issues with children playing in a sandbox. They are in a completely different 'world' than what the 'grown ups' are in elsewhere. They are PLAYING HOUSE while their parents are actually giving them the HOUSE STRUCTURE within which they can play. That is my job. I am now come to bring the HOUSE within which the children can now begin to LEARN exactly what that constitutes.
With that analogy, allow me now to attempt to bring that into the 'real world' we are in which is certainly physical but also is composed of SPIRITUAL THINGS which can not be perceived by those who have not been reborn by faith into it. The physical lineage of Israel is absolutely meaningless FOR ALL PRACTICAL INTENTS AND PURPOSES. Spiritual Israel is the ONLY Israel and is composed then of a physiical people who ARE ISRAEL.
There are only two peoples according to the Master; sheep and goats based on what they do. To believe that 'Jews' are sheep and 'gentiles' are goats is a DECEPTION at MANY LEVELS. My only advice for one to do is to read the message of FREEDOM FROM DECEPTION that was PROMISED TO COME from the messages SEALED UP in the very SCRIPTURES THEMSELVES as PROMISED FROM THE BEGINNING. Outside of that, I do not believe there is ANY WAY AT ALL TO POSSIBLY COMPREHEND the spiritual realities of the scriptures; and certainly that can only be done by BABES who have already been spritually RE BORN into true ISRAEL...the only one that has really ever existed and for which the physical lineage was merely a DIM SHADOW of the SPIRITUAL REALITY.
I hope that ALL of those reading these words are becoming ever more TUNED in their SPIRITUAL EARS to be able to INCREASINGLY UNDERSTAND REALITY which is QUITE DIFFERENT than the physical reality in which EDOM LIVES and wishes to deceive EVERYONE into REMAINING IN so they will NEVER ENTER THE PROMISES FOR WHICH ALL MEN WERE CREATED TO ENTER THROUGH WILLING CHOICE but some REFUSE.
I find when I speak at this level few really understand. They merely become confused. But that time is ALMOST OVER and this truth WILL BE KNOWN. Even as the Messiah said: 'I have many things to share with you but you can not perceive them yet'. The end is now come as promised in the book 3500 years ago. This message has been unsealed and it is NOW TIME TO UNDERSTAND THOSE THINGS THE MASTER HAS CHOSEN TO SHARE WITH US. One would do well to read it at least HALF as many times as they have read the book of revelation to understand!
YHWH blesses those who DILIGENTLY seek His face; I pray YHWH bless you.
God hated esau cause He saw the blood line. Wich is the generations to come of esau. Therefore they are jacobs trouble. The offspring of esau are right now fighting over the blessing. They are still not over it. To this day in the middle east they claim that Abraham blessed them. Or that the blessings was stolen. Bitterness goes a long way. Esaus offspring war'd at isreal an even mocked the tribes of Isreal when coming from cativity. Or being punished by God by going in cativity. So it was the seed that was corrupted that God saw He hated esau cause God new esaus offspring. Will continue to war against the chosen jacob. They are called the the edomites they caused trouble even in helping isreal get destroyed by their enemys in time of war. Right now Ishmeal Esaus off spring are against Jacobs offspring. King Herod a descendant of Esau that tried to kill Jesus when christ was born. Jesus is of Jacobs offspring Herod is of Esau's offspring. This is why God hated Esau Jacobs trouble.
