The mind of man is not spiritual nor will it ever be spiritual, any more than my feet or hands of my physical body are spiritual.
Man's mind is a part of Man's soul Which is includes THE Mind, The Will, The Emotion's
When any man or woman is born again they are instructed to renew their mind.
Man is always, that is The real man Man , The Spirit is always to direct his mind, we are never to allow our mind to direct us.
Do you know what words any man speaks are either form the will of the mind or of man's heart, his spiritual center.
The Soul of man was given to him for natural thing's as in this life on earth is natural, but man a spirit being was made to always have dominion over the natural realm.
When one study's the word of God and meditates there in his mind will be renewed by the water of the washing of the word.
If Man and this is very conditional, man is walking in the light of the word, abiding in Jesus by obedience the process continues, when man steps out of the light of God's word, which is rejecting God's word the longer anyone stays in that posture they walk out of the light of God's word and each step is walking into darkness.
This is why why it is so important to be a doer of the word, the Holy Spirit will not, and can not do man's responsibility for him, he was given to help us do the will of God.
Man's mind was made for the intellectual, mental realm, you do a math problem with the mind, if I sew a button on a piece of clothing my mind and the flesh are involved. The mind and the flesh will commune with one another, and if you allow them to be dominate you, I am out of spiritual order, The inward man is always to keep his members in to subjection to him, The spirit man.
When the mind is renewed and I might add this is a continual never ending process, it will not be so inclined to dominate you and the flesh will be more trained to the will of God.
The mind will hinder the word of God from getting to your heart, typically because an renewed mind will not accept the truth and the word of God must get past the mind to get to the heart.
Faith is not, nor will it ever be a part of the mind it is a product of the word of God planted in the heart of man as a seed and then faith begins to grow, it will not usually come instantly, it typically is a process of continuing to renew the mind of man to the will of God and allowing the word of God to fill your heart and when it does faith is born But it must be then continually feed to grow and to increase.
When You study the parable of The sower the first three people Group.s all heard the word of God and received it but ultimately got out of order by allowing the mind and the flesh to dominate the Spirit of man.
Romans 12:2 Do not be conformed to this world (this age), [fashioned after and adapted to its external, superficial customs], but be transformed (changed) by the [entire] renewal of your mind [by its new ideals and its new attitude], so that you may prove [for yourselves] what is the good and acceptable and perfect will of God, even the thing which is good and acceptable and perfect [in His sight for you].
Notice in this scripture it is our responsibility to know the will of God, and one might also add you will notice the will of God is expressed on three levels, it is implied that which is good is not acceptable and our objective is to be in the perfect will of God on any topic. Do you know you can be in the will of God in a topic, and out of the will of God on another Topic.
Be blessed today as you renew your mind by the washing of the water of the word of God.
Here is a Good example of the mind and the flesh dominating man.
You know you need to get out of Bed and spend time in fellowship with The lord, in the word of God and in prayer, but you decide to roll over and go back to sleep.
Rom 12:2~ And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your "mind," that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
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The only way you can get to know the truth of God is to stop trying to find out and by being born again first. If you Obey God in the first thing He shows You to do is Repent and Trun from your Old Man. God will never reveal more truth about Himself to You until You have Obeyed what you know He already Said. Repent and turn from your Sins.
Christ Died for Our Sins but You have to Confess them and that means Repent.
PJ ~ Yes...you were not very clear and I disagree with ya on verse Rom 12:2~ And be not conformed to this world: but [[[ be ye transformed by the renewing of your "mind," ]]] that ye may prove what [is] that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
*** And this is why...The LORD does the "Renewing" of the "Mind"...there is NOT a "you" involved in this Process...If a person could "Renew" thier own mind...there would be no Sovereign GOD...:rolleyes:...
And thank you Agapeton/Brother Sal for your continued Kind Exortations to the brethren here...I join you in Prayer that we ALL come into the Same Mind...Heart...Body in Praise...Worship...Understanding...Wisdom in and of our most Excellant and Holy GOD...May HIS HolySpirt continue to Increase and Guide us in All Ways of the LORD...xo
PJ ~ Yes...you were not very clear and I disagree with ya on verse Rom 12:2~ And be not conformed to this world: but [[[ be ye transformed by the renewing of your "mind," ]]] that ye may prove what [is] that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
*** And this is why...The LORD does the "Renewing" of the "Mind"...there is NOT a "you" involved in this Process...If a person could "Renew" thier own mind...there would be no Sovereign GOD...
It is very clear we here the word sovereign oh oh. follow's.
Well let us see what the sovereign lord said again:
Romans 12:1 � I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
Who is it in verse one, who is it in verse one.
Can the lord study for you? My lord won't.
Jas 1:21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your soul. your mind, your will, your emotions.
Who is to receive The engrafted word?
What does the engrafted word do?
This is a picture of what? It washes the dirt, filthy, unregenerate mind.
The lord will not do what we are called to do for us, he will help those that are doers of the word, it is the word of God that renews the mind it is not the spirit.
With The God of the word the emphasis is always the word first, then the spirit.
It would be beneficial for all to study and meditate in the parable of the sower, all that failed was not because of the lord, it wasbecause in every case they did not continue to be doers of the word thus they where overcome.
Jude I will give you a humble answer concerning this, I believe you hear his voice so ask him if this is not correct, he taught me this in 1985, I had not been saved two months when he started talking to me about it. I am confident of what he will say.
Jude something to ponder and I am not saying this is you, but is it kindness that opposes the truth?
I am not asking for an answer just something to ponder.
Sal I believe you have posted this before, but when we go the concordance or what ever tool we choose, we can not apply discern as to spiritually understand that always happens in the heart.
God,G2316 which is yourG5216 reasonableG3050 service.G2999
Rom 12:2 AndG2532 be notG3361 conformedG4964 to thisG5129 world:G165 butG235 be ye transformedG3339 by theG3588 renewingG342 of yourG5216 mind,G3563 that yeG5209 may proveG1381 whatG5101 is that good,G18 andG2532 acceptable,G2101 andG2532 perfect,G5046 willG2307 of God.G2316
I am responsible to know what the will of God is according to his word, that word prove is to you in that sentence it is not applied to the mind I can discern spiritual things but I am not a mind.
We have to be in agreement with the word to come in to the one mind posture.
Acts one and two is a good example of that and all walked in the promise of God all received.
I don't want to see any miss out because of this last mighty move of God, there are many warnings to the carnally minded.