I've pondered Matthew 7:21 more than once and I know that these will be terrifying words for those to whom they are spoken. Jesus says,
"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father, which is in heaven.
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."
In this verse, Jesus does not say that a few misguided souls have a false hope of heaven. He says MANY. He is talking to people who think they are Christians. Nowadays there are a lot of people who say that they are Christians who will not enter heaven. These are people who think that they are going to makeit in to glory on their lip service. But when they stand before the King and Judge, they will be rejected. When Jesus says "Depart" you can't appeal and try to get a second chance, you got to go. I KNOW they will be terrified. Included here? All those who choose to "worship" God according to their own beliefs and not God's word. This includes, cultists who claim a Jesus/gospel different from the Bible, e.g., Catholics, Jehovah Witnesses, Mormons, Seventh Day Adventists, Christian Scientists, hypocrites along with every Protestant denomination follower who puts their trust in their denomination, and church attendance.
To be a Christian, you must repent of your sins and believe on the Lord Jesus.
REPENTmeans saying, "I'm sick of sin and living my own way. I want to live under God's commands!"
BELIEVE means believing that Jesus died for your sins, was buried and rose on the third day and accepting His sacrifice for you. It means saying "Yes Lord! I love you! I want to serve you!" James says the devils believe and tremble--saving belief is more than acknowledging that the claims of Christ are true.
Many people think getting saved means saying, "the sinner's prayer"--that is a lie. They believe some mystical thing happens at reciting some words. No! The prayer is a confession of belief on the Lord. Romans 10:9 says,
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, AND shalt BELIEVE in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Jesus said "Repent ye and believe the gospel." Throughout the whole Bible, we see God telling people, in essence, "Turn from your wicked ways unto me and live." (e.g., Ezekiel 33:11) This is repentance--forsaking the sin lifestyle and saying "Yes, I'll submit to God's ways". Doing some good deeds is not repentance. That's trying to be good enough and that ain't gonna work--Isaiah 64:6 says that even our righteousnesses outside of God are as filthy rags. Saying some words is not repentance. The Bible says, "By the works of the flesh shall no man be justified," so the act of speaking don't do it.
If you are a true believer, your life will demonstrate it and the Bible tells us that over and over again. For us Christians, I believe that in our zeal to stem the cults, we emphasize faith and do not put like proper emphasis on the evidences of saving faith which is a life of holiness. I can say, "I really want to go to Harvard." But if I skip school, don't do my homework, and go to sleep in class, do I really want to go? NO WAY! Anybody could see that because my actions betray my confession. It is no different in confessing Jesus. People say, "I believe Jesus is Lord," yet they curse without abandon, don't go to church, love everything this wicked world has to offer, don't feel convicted of sin, and are uninterested in the things of God. Does this person believe to the saving of the soul? Good chance that the answer is no. Is this a matter of trying to be God and determine who will make it in? No! It is a question of life and death and telling people the truth!
Saving faith will manifest itself in good works. Just read James, Hebrews, I John, Romans--the gospels. If no change occurs in a person's life, we have plenty of scriptures to let us know that there is a VERY good chance true conversion never took place to begin with. Works do not save, but a saving faith will cause good works. Another analogy--apples do not make an apple tree an apple tree. Before any fruit appeared it was an apple tree. With time, sunshine, water and other factors, the precious fruit cometh forth. Same thing with a saved person. They have Jesus Christ within. With the word of God, working of the Holy Ghost, the brethern and time, good works will come forth like fine treasure hidden from within an earthen vessel.
The following is excerpted from the book, "How Can I Except Some Man Should Guide Me? A Plan and Program for Bringing Children to Faith in Jesus Christ," Pastor Kerry James Allen, Copyright 1996, Fox River Baptist Church, Box 1094, Oswego, IL. 60543. This gives some good, solid evidences of a person who has been born again. Jesus said, "By their fruits shall ye know them." Examine yourself against these criteria. The article on this site Who are You?is devoted to this same topic. God does not leave us out in the dark on this thing.
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We are not saved by our works, but when we are saved, our life will certainly reflect that decision by our good works. ("Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone" James 2:17.) Do you have total 100% assurance that you possess eternal life, and if someone asked you to prove it to them from a Bible, could you do it?
DO YOU SHOW EVIDENCES OF SPIRITUAL LIFE?
Following are ten evidences the true believer in Jesus Christ possesses, all from the epistle of First John. These are what Jonathan Edwardscalled "holy affections." Please read these pages, and ask yourself how many of these are manifested in your life. If you don't have that kind of evidence and assurance, please seek someone out who can help you, or give us a call.
"But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you ... and things that accompany salvation..." Hebrews 6:9
I. SUBMISSIVE RESPECT
"If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us" (1 John 1:8)
Do you respect God? Is your opinion just as important or even more relevant than His? Are God's pronouncements authoritative in your life? Is Jesus Christ your Lord?
II. SCRIPTURE OBEDIENCE
"But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him" (1 John 2:5)
Do you read the Bible daily? Do you read the Scriptures seeking to obey what you find? Are you in rebellion against God's Word or in submission to it? Do you love the Bible?
III. SOCIETAL REJECTION
"Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him" (1 John 2:15)
Do you love the world, your money, and your possessions? Do they mean more to you than Jesus Christ and His approval? Would you be willing to give up all for Christ?
IV. STEADFAST FAITHFULNESS
"They went out from us, but they were not of us: for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us" (1 John 2:19)
Are you faithful in regular fellowship with God's people in a local church? Are you able to be sparse in church attendance for weeks at a time without any real guilt about it? Do you long for fellowship with the saints in the assembly?
V. SECOND COMING ANTICIPATION
"When he shall appear, we shall be like him: for we shall see him as he is. And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure" (1 John 3:2-3)
Are you living in the daily awareness that Jesus Christ will return for His own? Are you eagerly looking forward to His coming for you? Does your daily life reflect the fact that He may come today? Are you ready to meet Him at any time?
VI. SIN SENSITIVITY
"Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God" (1 John 3:9)
Does your sin bother you? Do you wish you sinned less than you do? Are you sinning less now than when you first made a profession of faith in Christ? Do you enjoy your sin, or does it affect your happiness? Do you realize God sees all sin?
VII. SIBLING LOVE
"We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death" (1 John 3:14)
Do you love other believers in Jesus Christ? Do you enjoy being in their company, or would you rather be with the people of the world? Are Christians your dearest friends?
VIII. SUPPLICATIONS ANSWERED
"And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight" (1 John 3:22)
Do you pray? Can you point to specific answers that could have come from no one but God? Do you find yourself conversing regularly with God as a trusted friend?
IX. SHARP DISCERNMENT
"Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world" (1 John 4:1)
Do you find it easy to sort out the claims of various religions? Do you see all religions as the same? Do you understand the doctrine of Christ? Do you believe Jesus Christ is God?
X. SPIRIT AWARENESS
"Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit" (1 John 4:13)
Do you have a conscious awareness that the Holy Spirit of God lives in you? Does He teach you things from the Scriptures on a regular basis? Does the Holy Spirit convict you when you sin, or can you sin with abandon?
George we arent angry its called rightouse indignation and we dont like the way you twist things,. you said it was true and ella challenged you to post that scripture so we could compare it, but you did not because you are teaching false things.
You offerd to send me a book called thenormal christian life by watchman nee!
I dont know how you can read something with such spiritual depth to it and so much truth and still say the things you say, You dont see things the way watchman ne did I asure you!
You always talk about how we trust in our works and we dont need works but my dear watchman nee was a great man of God who did have many works, he died in a comunist prison for what he believed and taught.. DO YOU CONSIDER THAT WORKS?? DO YOU THINK HE LIVED A HOLY LIFE?? lol you have things way twisted!
George we arent angry its called rightouse indignation and we dont like the way you twist things,. you said it was true and ella challenged you to post that scripture so we could compare it, but you did not because you are teaching false things
Me
elisha,I tell everyone to go tot he Greek for there is where you ll find that the Word of GOD has the authority to proclam the truth.
The English translatrions have 'TWISTED THE TRUTH',had you and ellla actually read the Greek,or had even performed a word study,you would not be talking with me as you have been.
In Philadelphia,there is a term called 'WHISPER DOWN THE LANE',other places this might be called something different.
Say you have ten people and you say to the first person something that you want all ten to know,
Then you say to the first ,pass this info on.
By the time the tenth person has gotten the info,the entire story or info has been changed.
The same with the english translations..
I will not be doing your homework for you,ella or anyone else.
YOU study to show YOURSELF to be able to rightly divide the Word of truth...
After you have studied this out,maybe you will have a better understanding not only of the Word of YHWH,
But also you might have a different understanding of the way i think,and understand the Word of YHWH,and even YHWHW Himself ..
Shalom
Me
ps:
Please get yourself and Greek interlinear,The Interlinear Bible /Greek-English :Jay P. Green Sr. Hendrickson Publishers
A Stongs or Thayers Concordance.
A Strongs Bible dictionary,
An Analytical concordance of words
Then ask ABBA to reveal to you exactly what He has said within the annuls of Scripture.
Stop reading and listening to what others are saying and learn for yourself the truths Of YHWH..
Shalom and Chesed
Me
pss:
If you cannot afford these,by the Grace of YHWH,i would send these to you ABSOLUTELY FREE of CHARGE'
George, what is the missssssst are you talking about? Why not post the Greek passage yu are speaking about so we will know what is missing from the Greek and the English.
I posted the parallel of the Greek and the English, and it looks the same to me, so if you have found something different then you should post what you have in order for us to properly discuss what the differences are in the translations of Matthew 7:21-23.
WOW! unbelievable... the Greek words didn't come out in the first one. Hope they come out in this one...
So let's try again...
Greek New Testament Translation of Matthew chapter 7 21-23
21. ou paV o legwn moi kurie kurie eiseleusetai eiV thn basileian twn ouranwn all o poiwn to qelhma tou patroV mou tou en ouranoiV
22.polloi erousin moi en ekeinh th hmera kurie kurie ou tw sw onomati proefhteusamen kai tw sw onomati daimonia exebalomen kai tw sw onomati dunameiV pollaV epoihsamen
23.kai tote omologhsw autoiV oti oudepote egnwn umaV apocwreite ap emou oi ergazomenoi thn anomian
King James Version of Matthew chapter 7:21-23
King James Version Translation of Matthew chapter 7:21-23
7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven
22. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23. And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Me
I have tried to find a viable website to post this,yet every one of those sites has the same translation as that which ella has posted,yet these translaltions are wrong
,wrong,wrong.
Biblos.com has the coreect understanding,yet to copy and post this would make it hard for others to see the problem the translattions have..
I would like everyone to go to biblos.com
Look up Matthew 7.
Click onto the interlinear
Scroll to verse 21 and beging reading rthe Greek text.
Here are the English translations.
Matthew 7:22
(KJV) Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
(KJV+) ManyG4183 will sayG2046 to meG3427 inG1722 thatG1565 day,G2250 Lord,G2962 Lord,G2962 have we notG3756 prophesiedG4395 in thyG4674 name?G3686 andG2532 in thyG4674 nameG3686 have cast outG1544 devils?G1140 andG2532 in thyG4674 nameG3686 doneG4160 manyG4183 wonderful works?G1411
(LITV) Many will say to Me in that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name do many works of power?
(YLT) Many will say to me in that day, Lord, lord, have we not in thy name prophesied? and in thy name cast out demons? and in thy name done many mighty things?
The Greek actually says this.
Lord,Lord Not in your name did we prophesy,and(not) in your name demons cast out,and (not) in your name works of power many we performed.
The word (not) in the parenthesis is implied.
Please look this up,for Yeshuas reply,is one that should have people questioning whether the things they are doing are of YHWH or not.
George one would have to aware of the continual attempts to change the word of God by some, it is a pattern on this forum no need to go anywhere else.
A believer can readily see the answer in the context, no need to talk of the orginal language, unless one does not believe in language either.
The way of Cain as is of brute beasts:
Jude 1:10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.
Jude 1:11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.
Jude 1:12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
Jude 1:13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.
I have tried to find a viable website to post this,yet every one of those sites has the same translation as that which ella has posted,yet these translaltions are wrong
,wrong,wrong.
Biblos.com has the coreect understanding,yet to copy and post this would make it hard for others to see the problem the translattions have..
I would like everyone to go to biblos.com
Look up Matthew 7.
Click onto the interlinear
Scroll to verse 21 and beging reading rthe Greek text.
Here are the English translations.
Matthew 7:22
(KJV) Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
(KJV+) ManyG4183 will sayG2046 to meG3427 inG1722 thatG1565 day,G2250 Lord,G2962 Lord,G2962 have we notG3756 prophesiedG4395 in thyG4674 name?G3686 andG2532 in thyG4674 nameG3686 have cast outG1544 devils?G1140 andG2532 in thyG4674 nameG3686 doneG4160 manyG4183 wonderful works?G1411
(LITV) Many will say to Me in that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name do many works of power?
(YLT) Many will say to me in that day, Lord, lord, have we not in thy name prophesied? and in thy name cast out demons? and in thy name done many mighty things?
The Greek actually says this.
Lord,Lord Not in your name did we prophesy,and(not) in your name demons cast out,and (not) in your name works of power many we performed.
The word (not) in the parenthesis is implied.
Please look this up,for Yeshuas reply,is one that should have people questioning whether the things they are doing are of YHWH or not.
Shalom
Me
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Posted : 19 Nov, 2011 03:08 PM
George one would have to aware of the continual attempts to change the word of God by some, it is a pattern on this forum no need to go anywhere else.
A believer can readily see the answer in the context, no need to talk of the orginal language, unless one does not believe in language either.
The way of Cain as is of brute beasts:
Jude 1:10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.
Jude 1:11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.
Jude 1:12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
Jude 1:13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.
Peejay writes:
A believer can readily see the answer in the context, no need to talk of the orginal language, unless one does not believe in language either.
Me
Wow PEEjay,are you ever deceived.
Is this what the Health and Wealthers say,Oh you do not have to go back to the original language,this Perverted and distorted english translation is good enough.
When the kool-aid is handed out,do you ask for more?
George one would have to aware of the continual attempts to change the word of God by some, it is a pattern on this forum no need to go anywhere else.
A believer can readily see the answer in the context, no need to talk of the orginal language, unless one does not believe in language either.
The way of Cain as is of brute beasts:
Jude 1:10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.
Jude 1:11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.
Jude 1:12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
Jude 1:13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.
