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Posted : 31 Jul, 2011 10:11 AM

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Posted : 30 Jul, 2011 05:25 PM by Ella

IF... You died today, this very moment... where would you spend your eternal life? Will it be in heaven in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ, beholding all of His beauty and glory? Or, will your eternal life be spent in hell burning eternally in the late of fire with Satan, and all those who have rejected the love of our Lord Jesus Christ in disobedience and His free gift of salvation?

I John Chapter 1. This is the message which we have heard from God and declare to you, that God is light and in Him is no darkness at all.

If... we say that we have fellowship with Him (God), and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth.

If... we walk in the light as He (God) is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.

If... we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

If... we confess our sins, God is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

If... we say that we have not sinned, we make God a liar, and His word is not in us.

If... you pray this prayer, God will hear you , and forgive you of all your sins, and He will fill you with His Holy Spirit, which is the Promise of The Father to all those who believe.

Father, teach me how to pray> Prayer of Salvation - Father, God, have mercy on me for I am a sinner. Forgive me of all my sins, and fill me with Your Holy Spirit. I believe that Jesus Christ is Your Only Begotten Son, and that He died on the cross for my sins, and You raised Him from the dead, so that I might have eternal life in heaven with you. Open my eyes that I might see, and help my unbelief. Save me, and I will be saved. Heal me, and I will be healed. Deliever me, and I will be delivered. In Jesus Christ powerful name I pray, Amen.

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Posted : 1 Aug, 2011 11:52 AM

I see his service and i am greatful to him and God for his efforts.

If the basis is love toward Richard then i prefer to BUILD him UP!!!!

Because I am called to do it!



I understand why he said his commnent and there is nothing dangerous in what he said. Do not forget that there are hundreds so called 'born-again'christians who bark in churches by being demons-possesed!!!!!



Demons do not live in the true christians! You know that!

That's why even salvation if you pray a prayer is NOTHING!!!!

But FAITH and the TRUE conversion/TURN of the heart from the sinful life and sins means much!!!!



Millions of christians will be in the hell and Richard understand this. A prayer of salvation is NOTHING but words. What is matters for God is FAITH and the movement of heart. He desires only that!!!!!

This is what Richard meant.

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Posted : 1 Aug, 2011 12:23 PM

Bahira,

You have the right to agree or disagree with whatever a person says, but my comments to Richard are of a spiritual matter when a person insists on interfering in the works of the Lord as it pertaind to witinessing about Jesus Christ to the lost.

Yes, Richards and Passover both had an unclean spirit working in them because what they posted has not one thing to do with the topic of this thread, matters not if what they posted is truth of God's word or not. There are time when the Word can be used as a hinderance and stumbling block when it is not applied correctly and is not in order... it will casue peopel to turn a deaf are to what is the foudnation fo what is being said... God is a God of Order. Therefore, this is how the devil works in many Christinas to make a person think they are doing God's work, when in fact they are indeed stopping the progress of God's work especially when what he/she has to sas or scriptures they quote has not one thing spiritually to do with what is going on. God's work is based on spiritual intent, purpose and fulfillment...

What they should have posted were exhortations and a word of witness in accordance with the topic of this thread that might help lead a person to Christ, instead they tried to correct me with their own understanding and interpretation of scriptures, which is spiritually so off course, and they posted what THEY think God is saying or isn't what right.

As Paul teaches us, it is the foolish things of God that confound the wise, and spiritual discernment of the Holy Spirit MUST be used, therefore, as I stated, if Richard feels that his car is his witnessing tool, and that's not in the Bible either when he goes about with scriptures all over his car... then encouraging and person to pray a pray to increase their faith unto salvation, is more so proper and in order and prayer is in in the Bible,a nd GOd has never stopped anyone from communicatiing with Him, if fact He commands this, and encouragin prayer is a much better witnessing tool to the lost than scriptures written all over a ca,r that some people might read and some may not.

But when a person READS a pray, it is within thier reading of the prayer that in their spirit the spiritual seed is being planted from the prayer. I'm speaking spiritual matter not carnal of things that arenot of God. Wiynessing to other is the key to salvation, and it should eb done in one accord in agreement one with another, ad is no time for someone to try to correct a person, only to be out of touch with your correction.

Not one person on this forum is God's counselor, nor has given Him counsel, it is God and Him alone who send forth people to be His witnesses in the matter He so choose, whether its with Richard and his car or me encouraging a person to pray a prayer of faith., or you witnessing to the muslims online.

Breaking up the fallow ground is the purpose of witinessing to the lost, and salvation is the fulfillment of those seed that have been planted whetherr its 10 yrs down the road or two weeks later..

Richard followed me from one thread to another on three different threads posting the same scriptures that had nothing todo with the topic I had posted, and that's of the devil an unclean spirit, therefore, it reminded me of the woman who followed Paul around in Acts chapter 16, until Paul rebuked her... it wasnt that what she was speaking was in error but her purpose and intent was not of God. The behavior called for such, I dont rebuke Richard, I asked God to rebuke that unclean spirit that was controling him to do what he was doing whether you or he or anyone else liked it or not... I will leave that to God, and so should you.

And in case there are those who enjoy running to a good fight on the forum, and have need to know, this is not Bahira's and my first disagreement on certain matters... and guess what?... we are still friends united... now that's good old Christian friendship love:hearts:

love ya much Bahira, talk with ya later, I have some work to do:hearts::glow:

ella

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Posted : 1 Aug, 2011 12:27 PM

Oh, I forgot, NO demons don't live inside of Christians believers, but uncleans spirits do torement Christians as according to Jesus rebuking the unclean spirit that controled Peter's words, and there are many other accoutns in the Bible of unclean spirits torementing Christians...

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Posted : 1 Aug, 2011 01:28 PM

Romans 10:10: "For it is with your *HEART* that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved."



God has promised "You will find Me when you seek Me with **ALL YOUR HEART**." Jeremiah 29:13 When someone is really born again through God's Word with *ALL HIS HEART* he will want to shout it from the housetops:yay: and he doesn't need any prepared sinner's prayer.

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Posted : 1 Aug, 2011 01:47 PM

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ET you quoted I John 1:5-9 which seems to have been written to only saints who claimed to be Christians and not to the lost as is shown by



I John 1:3,6.,9 & I John 2:1,3,5:



"We proclaim to you what we have seen and heard, so that you also may have fellowship with us....if we claim to have fellowship with Him...If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins{See Luke 11:2-4}...**MY DEAR CHILDREN*, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have one who speaks to the Father in our defense--Jesus Christ, the Righteous One... We know that we have come to know Him if we obey His commands.. If anyone obeys His word, God's love is truly made complete in Him."

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Posted : 1 Aug, 2011 04:40 PM

Ok, Richard, I see you continue to direct your scriputre quotes to me, therefore, I ask of you... what's your purpose and intent?

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Posted : 1 Aug, 2011 05:32 PM

Richard what does it mean to believe with your heart?

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Posted : 1 Aug, 2011 07:24 PM

John 1:12,13: "To all:rolleyes: who received Him, {Jesus}to those who believed in His Name, he gave the right to become children of God--children born not of human descent,**NOR OF HUMAN DECISION** or a husband's will , but **BORN OF GOD**."



Ephesians 2:8,9: For it is by grace you:rolleyes: have been saved, through faith--and this **NOT FROM YOURSELVES**, it is the {100%} GIFT OF GOD--not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are GOD'S WORKMANSHIP, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do."



John 6:44: Jesus says, No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father who sent Me draws him, and I will raise him:rolleyes: up at the *Last Day*!!"



There will be 2 comings of Jesus on the *Last Day* of the Great Tribulation. The first will be *FOR* His saints and the second will be **WITH** His saints right after the marriage Feast of the Lamb {See Rev 19:8-20 & Rev 17:14}



Revelation 17:14: "They will make war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will overcome them because He is Lord of lords and King of kings--and with Him will be His:rolleyes: **CALLED**, **CHOSEN** and Faithful followers!!" :applause::angel::peace: The Father will only Call, Choose and Draw those He knows will be Faithful.

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Posted : 1 Aug, 2011 07:32 PM

Richard answer the question?

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Posted : 1 Aug, 2011 07:33 PM

Again, Richard, you have posted this passage. So, what is Jesus speaking about here? What does this passage mean , and how is a person drawn to Him? In other words how does the Father draw a person to Jesus? Thanks...

John 6:44: Jesus says, No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father who sent Me draws him, and I will raise him up at the *Last Day*!!"

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