Thread: Masturbation - what the bible says..for men, but the girls can giggle..
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Masturbation - what the bible says..for men, but the girls can giggle..
Posted : 26 Jul, 2011 03:51 PM
WOW, I can't believe this lovingcoman, what a trouble maker, mean he is OUT there.
What the bible says about the "M" word...CDFF censors the "M" word, so it is SELF PLEASURE:
NOTHING, GOT IT, NOTHING...
SELF PLEASURE is an activity that one has to be very honest with God about. There will be some religious folks who are going to point out that passage when the Dude "spills seed on the ground..that is referring to coitus interrupt-us, nothing more... See the Jewish folks were told to like have a lot of children and the Dude basically disobeys that. Otherwise, the records the religious folks use are very silly.
I SELF PLEASURE every once in a while. I am 57, single, don't do sex with the ladies. I have trained myself to stay in fellowship during the spectacle. See, sex is always available. The problem is the fantasy imagery thing, that is not cool and it is a sin.
Women do not SELF PLEASURE for the most part, there is no need to, they are physically different from men. I think it is necessary for some women to learn about their bodies. there are many women who face problems in marriage with painful intercourse, the inability to have an "O" (CDFF censors the "O" word)..BUT in general if a woman can bring herself to "O" once, well she can do it again with the right man, her husband decades later.
If there are any homosexual men out there...fantasy imagery is not really such a bad thing during that transition from same sex imagery to heterosexual imagery..not having the ability to feel attraction to the opposite sex is a real problem.
Engaging in SELF PLEASURE for men of all ages can be a problem if it is something that is relied on, like the attitude that sex is a need..it doesn't work that way...sex is a desire, intimacy, that interconnectedness with your wife is the need, emotional, spiritual, and mental...the physical part is the icing on the cake.
Masturbation - what the bible says..for men, but the girls can giggle..
Posted : 27 Jul, 2011 07:04 AM
Jeff;
What I said was "women for the most part do not SELF PLEASURE"...the reason is that the "M" word for them very easily is a quick release and most have issues with emptiness and guilt afterwards. it is very much the case that "M"ing is a selfish act..so it a bad thing to go overboard with it be it a sinlge man or single woman...when it gets into marriage, especially, married men it tends to de-rail things.
I really wanted to bring this subject up to the guys. We really need to get honest about it, for ourselves, for others weaker in the faith than ourselves...for our future mates.
The other side of the coin is inhibition...If you can 'M" in front of your wife and she can "M" in front of you, well that equals "un-inhibited".
Masturbation - what the bible says..for men, but the girls can giggle..
Posted : 27 Jul, 2011 07:59 AM
Michael, I think this is a good topic that Christian men and women have need to discuss openly and freely just as we discuss everything else.
Knowledge of what God has to say about sin and the deeds we do in and outside our bodies, scriptures tells us we will have to give an account to God at judgment whether the deeds are good or evil. Ingorance of truth is also a sin. No, the word its self mastubation is not found in the Bible, but sexual immorality, different lusts, and self-control are found throughout the God's Holy Word. So it is important that we consider what God does to say about sexual sins and lusts, and what we do know about sexual immorality.
Paul let's us know throughtout his writings that ALL SEXUAL IMMORALITY IS SIN! And those who practice such will not inherit the kingdom of God, whether it is sexual immorality with another person or through self-gratification sexual immorality is LUST and LUST is sin... and that's Bible!
It just so happens that mastubation does not include sinning with another person , butis a sexual sin within onesown self of the mind. A person can't mastubate without thinking sexual thoughts or seeing sexual images that brings on the thoughts of feeling a need for release of sexual self pleasure in the body.
Paul also tells us this in Romans chapter 6 Consider yourself to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God through Jesus Christ our Lord. Therefore, do not let sin reign (or be in power or have control) in your mortal body, so that you should OBEY it in LUSTS of it. Neither YIELD your MEMBERS as INSTRUMENTS of unrighteousness to sin, but yield yourselves to God, as those who are alive from the dead, and your MEMBERS as INSTRUMENTS of righteousness to God.Verses 19 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh, for as you have YIELD your MEMBERS servants to uncleanness and to wickedness to wickedness, even so now YEILD your MEMBERS servants in righteousness to holiness 20 When you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. 21 So what advantage did you then get from the things of which you now are ashamed? The end of those things is death. 22 But now that you have been freed from sin and enslaved to God, the advantage you get is sanctification. The end is eternal life. 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." This answer to should also enlighten many as to what the sexual act of mastubation.
Question: "Masturbation - is it a sin according to the Bible?" Answer: The Bible never explicitly mentions masturbation or states whether or not masturbation is a sin. The Scripture most frequently pointed to in regards to masturbation is the story of Onan in Genesis 38:9-10. Some interpret this passage as saying that �spilling your seed� on the ground is a sin. However, that is not precisely what the passage is saying. God condemned Onan not for �spilling his seed� but because Onan refused to fulfill his duty to provide an heir for his brother. The passage is not about masturbation, but rather about fulfilling a family duty.
A second passage sometimes used as evidence for masturbation�s being a sin is Matthew 5:27-30. Jesus speaks against having lustful thoughts and then says, �If your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away.� While there are parallels between this passage and masturbation, it is unlikely that masturbation was what Jesus was alluding to. While the Bible nowhere explicitly states that masturbation is a sin, there is no question as to whether the actions that lead to masturbation are sinful. Masturbation is nearly always the result of lustful thoughts, sexual stimulation, and/or pornographic images. It is these problems that need to be dealt with. If the sins of lust, immoral thoughts, and pornography are forsaken and overcome, masturbation will become a non-issue.
Many people struggle with guilty feelings concerning masturbation, when in reality, the things that led to the act are far more worthy of repentance. There are some biblical principles that can be applied to the issue of masturbation. Ephesians 5:3 declares, �Among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity.� It is hard to see how masturbatingcan pass that particular test. The Bible teaches us, �So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God� (1 Corinthians 10:31). If you cannot give God glory for something, you should not do it. If a person is not fully convinced that an activity is pleasing to God, then it is a sin: �Everything that does not come from faith is sin� (Romans 14:23).
Further, we need to remember that our bodies have been redeemed and belong to God. �Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body� (1 Corinthians 6:19-20). This great truth should have a real bearing on what we do with our bodies.
In light of these principles, the conclusion that masturbation is a sin is biblical. Clearly, masturbation is not glorifying to God; it does not avoid the appearance of immorality, nor does it pass the test of God�s having ownership over our bodies.
Masturbation - what the bible says..for men, but the girls can giggle..
Posted : 27 Jul, 2011 08:11 AM
Also, Michael in response to what you said here...
Michael said The other side of the coin is inhibition...If you can 'M" in front of your wife and she can "M" in front of you, well that equals "un-inhibited".
GOD SAYS THIS "Now for the matters you wrote about: �It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.� 2 But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband. 3 The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife. 5 Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. 6 I say this as a concession, not as a command. 7 I wish that all of you were as I am. But each of you has your own gift from God; one has this gift, another has that."
AND ELLA SAYS THIS, What goes on in the bedroom of a married couple, should stay in the bedroom of the married couple, between the husband and his wife...
Masturbation - what the bible says..for men, but the girls can giggle..
Posted : 27 Jul, 2011 08:30 AM
Ah, i didn't as usual read all of your reply, way too long, enough of it to apparently disagree with me on one thing at least...that 'M' ing has to be accompanied by lustful thoughts...well, you are a woman and I man, so we are not going to be able to resolve that one... I doubt you wish to share your own specific experience with that, I wouldn't if I were a woman.
Bottom line we agree that "M" ing is not there, that is good, SirJames does not agree apparently.
We, as usual, do not agree that "M" ing can be accomplished without lustful thoughts, so we agree to disagree on that. If I have the time, I will re-read your two posts on the subject and if there is something to post, I will do so...
