Ephesians 1;3 "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ".
sounds simple enough.
From memory "for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son..."
sounds simple enough
Ist Thess. 1:10 "and to wait for his (God's) Son from the heaven whom (God) raised from the dead even (in italics in KJ, so its an added word) Jesus..'
sounds simple enough
Romans 1:3 "concerning his (God's) son Jesus Christ our Lord..."
sounds simple enough
Romans 1:4 "and declared to be (both words in italics in KJ, added words) the Son of God..."
sounds simple enough
Ist corn. 1;9 "God is faithful by whom (God) ye were called (God did the calling) unto the fellowship of his (God's) Son Jesus Christ our Lord.
John 8:24 I said, therefore, to you, that ye shall die in your sins, for if ye may not believe that I am, ye shall die in your sins.'
By taking the Name Of GOD upon Himself,Yeshua left Himself open to be judged by the Law.
The sentence was to be stoned.
Exo 3:13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?
Exo 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
what is interesting to me personally is that I am not seeing anyone say "you know michael, I believe in the Trinity, but I do agree with you..the verses you have written in your posts do not support my arguement that Jesus Christ is anything but the Son of God"...to me that would be honest...again, this is a discussion and as I understand it a discussion emanates from the "evidence" that is asserted by the author..
Please be careful about listening to the wrong voices. To walk obediently with the Lord, we need to guard ourselves from being swayed by those who don�t understand the greatness of our God. Not only that, but we must also learn to recognize the lies of Satan. He wants us to become ineffective, accomplishing little for the kingdom of God.
The following are not my writings, but collections from other scholarly writers, more versed in scripture than I am.
�Jesus Himself upheld monotheism. When asked for the greatest command, Jesus responded, �. . . The Lord our God, the Lord is one. And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength� (Mark 12:29-30).
�Jesus taught that God is one, and Jesus taught that He was one with God (John 10:30). In response, the Jews picked up stones to stone Jesus because they thought He was guilty of blasphemy. Jesus is not a mere man claiming to be God. He is the Son of God in human flesh (John 10:36-38).
� Peter testified: �Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, �Who do people say that the Son of Man is?� And they said, �Some say John the Baptist, others say Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.� He said to them, �But who do you say that I am?� Simon Peter replied, �You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.� And Jesus answered him, �Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven�� (Matthew 16:13-17).
� Even the demons know Jesus is the Son of God: �Whenever the evil spirits saw him, they fell down before him and cried out, �You are the Son of God�� (Mark 3:11).
� Thomas testified after Jesus rose from the dead: �Now Thomas, one of the Twelve, called the Twin, was not with them when Jesus came. So the other disciples told him, �We have seen the Lord.� But he said to them, �Unless I see in his hands the mark of the nails, and place my finger into the mark of the nails, and place my hand into his side, I will never believe.� Eight days later, his disciples were inside again, and Thomas was with them. Although the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, �Peace be with you.� Then he said to Thomas, �Put your finger here, and see my hands; and put out your hand, and place it in my side. Do not disbelieve, but believe.� Thomas answered him, �My Lord and my God!� Jesus said to him, �Have you believed because you have seen me? Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.� Now Jesus did many other signs in the presence of the disciples, which are not written in this book; but these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name� (John 20:24-31).
� �We know also that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true. And we are in him who is true�even in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life� (1 John 5:20).
� Previously, God had spoken to man through His prophets, but then He sent His own Son: �In the past God spoke to our forefathers by the prophets at many times and in various ways. But in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son whom He has appointed heir of all things, and through whom He made the universe. The Son is the radiance of God�s glory and the exact representation of His being, sustaining all things by His powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in the heaven� (Hebrews 1:1-3).
�Jesus is the �exact representation� of God. Although one with His Father in essence, Jesus is also distinct in Person as God�s Son. God has revealed Himself as one God manifest in three Persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
The one God exists as three Persons.
The Bible teaches that God is one in essence, three in Person: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit (Matthew 3:16-17; 28:19). Each is fully God. God is not three gods but three in one. Although we cannot completely grasp the tri-unity of God, we must trust His revelation is true.
The Trinity is one God existing in three Persons. Understand that this is not in any way suggesting three Gods. Keep in mind when studying this subject that the word �Trinity� is not found in Scripture. This is a term that is used to attempt to describe the triune God�three coexistent, co-eternal Persons who make up God. Of real importance is that the concept represented by the word �Trinity� does exist in Scripture.
In Isaiah 48:16 and 61:1, the Son is speaking while making reference to the Father and the Holy Spirit. Compare Isaiah 61:1 to Luke 4:14-19 to see that it is the Son speaking. Matthew 3:16-17 describes the event of Jesus' baptism. Seen in this passage is God the Holy Spirit descending on God the Son while God the Father proclaims His pleasure in the Son. Matthew 28:19 and 2 Corinthians 13:14 are examples of three distinct Persons in the Trinity.
Each member of the Trinity is God. The Father is God (John 6:27; Romans 1:7; 1 Peter 1:2). The Son is God (John 1:1, 14; Romans 9:5; Colossians 2:9; Hebrews 1:8; 1 John 5:20). The Holy Spirit is God (Acts 5:3-4; 1 Corinthians 3:16).
There have been many attempts to develop illustrations of the Trinity. However, none of the popular illustrations are completely accurate. The egg (or apple) fails in that the shell, white, and yolk are parts of the egg, not the egg in themselves, just as the skin, flesh, and seeds of the apple are parts of it, not the apple itself. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are not parts of God; each of them is God. The water illustration is somewhat better, but it still fails to adequately describe the Trinity. Liquid, vapor, and ice are forms of water. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are not forms of God, each of them is God. So, while these illustrations may give us a picture of the Trinity, the picture is not entirely accurate. An infinite God cannot be fully described by a finite illustration
The doctrine of the Trinity has been a divisive issue throughout the entire history of the Christian church. While the core aspects of the Trinity are clearly presented in God�s Word, some of the side issues are not as explicitly clear. The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God�but there is only one God. That is the biblical doctrine of the Trinity. Beyond that, the issues are, to a certain extent, debatable and non-essential. Rather than attempting to fully define the Trinity with our finite human minds, we would be better served by focusing on the fact of God's greatness and His infinitely higher nature. �Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable his judgments, and his paths beyond tracing out! Who has known the mind of the Lord? Or who has been his counselor?� (Romans 11:33-34)
We are often asked the question, �Do I have to believe in the Trinity to be saved?� The answer is yes and no. Does a person have to fully understand and agree with every aspect of Trinitarianism to be saved? No. Are there some aspects of Trinitarianism that play key roles in salvation? Yes. For example, the deity of Christ is crucially important to the doctrine of salvation. If Jesus were not God, His death could not have paid the infinite penalty of sin. Only God is infinite�He had no beginning, and He has no end. All other creatures, including angels, are finite; they were created at some point. Only the death of an infinite Being could atone for the sin of mankind throughout eternity. If Jesus were not God, He could not be the Savior, the Messiah, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world (John 1:29). An unbiblical view of Jesus' divine nature results in an errant view of salvation. Every �Christian� cult that denies the true deity of Christ also teaches that we must add our own works to Christ's death in order to be saved. The true and full deity of Christ, an aspect of Trinitarianism, refutes this concept.
My only assertion, to keep it simple is this..if Jesus Christ was not a man, he would not have been the perfect sacrifice, him being God contradicts that clearly..
It is clear as the day that Jesus is God and the Son of God.
His nature/essence is divine and it is what we call christianity!
Praise the Lord - our God- Jesus!
You are the Creator of the universe, the Word of God and God!
You are our Savior and you took our sins to make us HOLY!
You imputed us Your holiness!
You took the sin of the world on the cross and you were killed instead of us!
The Lamb of God
Was killed instead of you on the cross.
He gave you eternal life!
And He has on His robe and on His thigh a name written:
The KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.
Who is He?
Jesus.
He is God Jesus.
Revelation 19
Isaiah 53:5,6: "He (Jesus) was pierced for our transgressions,
He was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was upon Him and by His wounds we are healed.
We all like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to His own way,
and the Lord has laid on HIM the iniquity of us all."
Thank you Jesus! Our God! :applause::bow:
John 1
The Eternal Word
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the WORD was GOD. :dancingp:
He was in the beginning with God.
All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.
In Him was life, and the life was the light of men.
And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.
And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, :dancingp:and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.
Gal 3:18 For if the inheritance is of Law, it is no more of promise; but God has given it to Abraham through promise.
Gal 3:19 Why the Law then? It was for the sake of transgressions, until the Seed should come, to whom it had been promised, being ordained through angels in a mediator's hand.
Gal 3:20 But the Mediator is not of one, but God is one.
1Tim 2:5 For God is one, also there is one Mediator of God and of men, the Man Christ Jesus,
1Tim 2:6 the One having given Himself a ransom on behalf of all, the testimony to be given in its own time,
Heb 8:6 But now He has gotten a more excellent ministry, also by so much as He is a Mediator of a better covenant, which has been enacted on better promises.
Heb 8:7 For if that first was faultless, place would not have been sought for a second.
Heb_12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
Where do you find the word Presbyterian in the KJ Bible, the inspired word of God, that describes or substitutes the name of Christ's church?
Didn't Christ die for us all and doesn't he say in Mat16:18 " on this rock I will build my church and the gates of Hades will not overcome it" Isn't the church Christ's and shouldn't it be in his name?
