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Lord of all?
Posted : 28 Jun, 2011 07:57 PM

just an interesting quote from a song i heard, "if He's not Lord of all, then He's not Lord at all". any thoughts on this?

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Posted : 29 Jun, 2011 11:25 AM

@jude:



Yep,read that.thanks



That talks about serving,Not about Yeshua being LORD of all.



Let us see the Word of GOD concerning this subject.



Was Yeshua LORD here?

Job 38:1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,

Job 38:2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?

Job 38:3 Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.

Job 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

Job 38:5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?

Job 38:6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;

Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Job 38:8 Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth, as if it had issued out of the womb?

Job 38:9 When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it,

Job 38:10 And brake up for it my decreed place, and set bars and doors,

Job 38:11 And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?

Job 38:12 Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused the dayspring to know his place;

Job 38:13 That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?

Job 38:14 It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment.

Job 38:15 And from the wicked their light is withholden, and the high arm shall be broken.

Job 38:16 Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea? or hast thou walked in the search of the depth?

Job 38:17 Have the gates of death been opened unto thee? or hast thou seen the doors of the shadow of death?

Job 38:18 Hast thou perceived the breadth of the earth? declare if thou knowest it all.

Job 38:19 Where is the way where light dwelleth? and as for darkness, where is the place thereof,

Job 38:20 That thou shouldest take it to the bound thereof, and that thou shouldest know the paths to the house thereof?

Job 38:21 Knowest thou it, because thou wast then born? or because the number of thy days is great?

Job 38:22 Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow? or hast thou seen the treasures of the hail,

Job 38:23 Which I have reserved against the time of trouble, against the day of battle and war?

Job 38:24 By what way is the light parted, which scattereth the east wind upon the earth?

Job 38:25 Who hath divided a watercourse for the overflowing of waters, or a way for the lightning of thunder;

Job 38:26 To cause it to rain on the earth, where no man is; on the wilderness, wherein there is no man;

Job 38:27 To satisfy the desolate and waste ground; and to cause the bud of the tender herb to spring forth?

Job 38:28 Hath the rain a father? or who hath begotten the drops of dew?

Job 38:29 Out of whose womb came the ice? and the hoary frost of heaven, who hath gendered it?

Job 38:30 The waters are hid as with a stone, and the face of the deep is frozen.

Job 38:31 Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?

Job 38:32 Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons?

Job 38:33 Knowest thou the ordinances of heaven? canst thou set the dominion thereof in the earth?

Job 38:34 Canst thou lift up thy voice to the clouds, that abundance of waters may cover thee?

Job 38:35 Canst thou send lightnings, that they may go, and say unto thee, Here we are?

Job 38:36 Who hath put wisdom in the inward parts? or who hath given understanding to the heart?

Job 38:37 Who can number the clouds in wisdom? or who can stay the bottles of heaven,

Job 38:38 When the dust groweth into hardness, and the clods cleave fast together?

Job 38:39 Wilt thou hunt the prey for the lion? or fill the appetite of the young lions,

Job 38:40 When they couch in their dens, and abide in the covert to lie in wait?

Job 38:41 Who provideth for the raven his food? when his young ones cry unto God, they wander for lack of meat.





Or maybe here?

Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.



Yeshua is LORD,of ALL whether you,or I,or anyone else wants to believe that.



He does not need you or I,not anyones FAITH,He needs nothing to being LORD of all.



Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.





Shalom

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Lord of all?
Posted : 29 Jun, 2011 11:39 AM

Have you started drinking :toomuch: again George...Ima discerning the Spirt of "Way to Much"...xo

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Posted : 29 Jun, 2011 11:48 AM

OK, POIC, let me get this right... are you call yourself openly rebuking Maniacs for asking what this meant t us, becasue YOU think is not biblical? Is this waht I hear you saying?

If so, then your comments are still UNBELIEVEABLE TO ME, because Jesus Christ is Lord of , or over ALL people, places, and things ever created.

Maybe you don't understand the concept, as to what all this means that He is Lord of all or over all, and if He is not Lord of all then He is not Lord AT ALL..

I think this could be your problem, a lacking of spiritual understanding and insight into the meaning of this word.

And for this reason , Im going to help you out up in herrrr, so let me help you out to prove that Jesus Christ is Lord of, and over ALL THINGS EVER CREATED, INCLUDING YOU WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, OR WHETHER YOU MAKE HIM YOUR LORD OR NOT,AND WHETHER YOU CALL HIM YOUR LORD OR NOT... He IS still in total control and has all authority over your very being...

Sorry, darling, but Its not my problem or responsibility that you should hear or willingly receive this from a female/woman minister... I ain't got nothing to do with that, God says gvie out His word, and its your choice to hear and receive it..

Got a problem or issues?... Talk to God about the messengers He uses, All I do is carry the mail and get paid with the blessings. I'm just a message handler:laugh:

Jesus Christ IS Lord of ALL: Isaiah chapter 45, I am the LORD, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God. I will strengthen you, though you have not acknowledged me, so that from the rising of the sun to the place of its setting people may know there is none besides me. I am the LORD, and there is no other. I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things. �You heavens above, rain down my righteousness; let the clouds shower it down. Let the earth open wide, let salvation spring up, let righteousness flourish with it; I, the LORD, have created it.

Jesus Christ IS ALL: Colossians chapter 3, Do not lie to each other, since you have taken off your old self with its practices 10 and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator. 11 Here there is no Gentile or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all.

Jesus Christ IS ALL: Philippians Chapter 2, Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, 7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. 8 And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross. 9 Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, 10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, 11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Jesus Christ IS LORD: Colossians Chapter 2, So then, just as you received Christ Jesus as Lord, continue to live your lives in him, 7 rooted and built up in him, strengthened in the faith as you were taught, and overflowing with thankfulness. 8 See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces[a] of this world rather than on Christ. 9 For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form, 10 and in Christ you have been brought to fullness. He is the head over every power and authority. In him you were also circumcised with a circumcision not performed by human hands. Your whole self ruled by the flesh was put off when you were circumcised by Christ, 12 having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through your faith in the working of God, who raised him from the dead. 13 When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, 14 having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross. 15 And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.

Jesus Christ IS Lord of ALL: Ephesians chapter 1, I pray that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in his holy people, 19 and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is the same as the mighty strength 20 he exerted when he raised Christ from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, 21 far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every name that is invoked, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. 22 And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, 23 which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.

JESUS CHRIST IS LORD OF AND OVER ALL TO THE GLORY OF THE FATHER: I Corinthians Chapter 12, Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed, and no one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit.:applause::glow::yay::dancingp::peace:

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Posted : 29 Jun, 2011 01:01 PM

2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.





In rightly dividing the word of truth, yes Jesus is lord of lord's, is he the lord of all upon the earth obviously not, for the lost are under the lordship or dominion of satan, until they confess Jesus as their lord



When it comes to those that are born again are they all under the lordship of Jesus obviously not, if Jesus was lord of them spiritually they could not continually proclaim the word other than as it was written.



A covenant is between two parties and both parties have their side of the covenant agreement and you will find those that proclaim the father's side of the covenant as thought it was all automatic and man did not have any responsibility's to his covenant, that is just one example of many as man being lord of his own life proclaiming to be a christian.





The father requires faith and anything less is sin.

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Posted : 29 Jun, 2011 01:16 PM

Nope,no problem with my understanding.



Yeshua is LORD whether there is NOTHING,or whether there is ANYTHING.



Yeshua was LORD,when there was nothing.EX-Nehilo



He was LORD then,He is LORD now,He is LORD for and in all eternity.



Shalom



By the way,ET i do not drink,so that might show you do not have the Charisma/Grace of Knowledge.



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Posted : 29 Jun, 2011 01:17 PM

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Posted : 29 Jun, 2011 10:47 AM





@ET and Jude:



Where is your BIBLICAL EVIDENCE.



All the two of you had given to me is your opinion.and we know what opinions are like;



Do we not.



As far as Maniacs and many others which take this Scripture/Word of the Living GOD way out of its proposed purpose.



Rev 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;



Rev 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.



This is an open and bold rebuke of Yeshua to the 'Church'.



This is not meant to be a message for evangelism.



Too bad we let So-called Pastors read and tell us what they believe the Word of GOD says.



Believers should read for themselves and rebuke those s0-called men for their unbelief and twisting of the Word of GOD.



Shalom



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Lord of all?

Posted : 29 Jun, 2011 11:05 AM





Carnality alert as the wisdom of man has spoken

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Posted : 29 Jun, 2011 02:07 PM

POIC said: By the way,ET i do not drink,so that might show you do not have the Charisma/Grace of Knowledge.

Ella said: Now seee, there you go maing statements you are not sure of and saying stuff you know nuttin about.

POIC, please show me where I said anything about you drinking... I have an extra pair $$ store glasses I will send to you, or maybe I need them as I make my comments, so I can see what I write.

So Now with all your Chraisma and Grace of Knowledge please bring forth where I said anything about you drinking?

Jude was joking around when SHE... NOT I, but hwen she asked you if you were still drinking, becasue of a comment you made, but you have falsely accused me of saying this... geeezzzzz, what a way! I think you need to go to bed and get some rest before your next trip over the road:goofball::rolleyes::excited:

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Posted : 29 Jun, 2011 02:13 PM

Ella that is a good point if Jesus was lord over your life, one would not reject the gift of the holy ghost.

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Posted : 29 Jun, 2011 02:17 PM

:applause::glow: That the ticket PJ! an its all in the word when Paul say no one can call Jesus Chirst their Lord UNLES the DO have the Holy Spirit living on the inside of them!!

Wow! PJ you spoke a divine word when you side that! made me wanna shout:laugh::dancingp:

The Holy Spirit is the means that justifies the end, and the end that justifies the means!:glow: Thank you Jesus!:dancingp::dancingp:

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Posted : 29 Jun, 2011 02:20 PM

No Holy Spirit, no gifts of the Spirit... people quench, resisit, and reject His power and His presence! And then wodner why thyey are not operating in the anointing of His grace to heal or to call those things that be not as though they were... and then they doubt those of us who have experienced His power and anointing in grace.

This is why we how know the turht of the Holy Spirit can without a diubt call HIm Lord!

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