James when you speak of me, just think the word of God that is always where I am at, and right on top of it when I say what I say, it is not me that mentions hunches, that is no reflection of christ in man at all.
alright, et, how many times did I ask those guys to make amends and chevy did and you remained silent. You know you had a chance to accept his sincere apology. you were silent. It takes two to tango.
even thou chuck was wrong, I did say that he was wrong. i have also said that chevy needed to control his anger and forgive. you too had many chances to make amends.That is how come some of your post were laughed at by them. respect is a two way street. even my respect post in which I said that the guys that mouth off to you need to have a certain respect for you.
anger is not a mans problem but everybody's.
anybody can be an internet bully.
I have even sent PJ a post recently to apologize if I ever offended him.
i have noticed that some of the women here use the rules to apply to them only when it is in their favor.
To say that chuck was well liked, he was.
check my post out about making amends. The rules apoly to everybody. When you are silent and do not even respond to apologies what does that say about you?
I have not insulted you here, nor said any untrue thing. As for bahira, she is ok with me.
I have to agree with much of what Dennis has said. I have also seen ET lash out at those she likens to 'cult'. She has put those people down with harsh words, harsh accusations and name calling. All in the name of God. Not once did she apologize for any of it. None of it. Is it no wonder this 'cult' was formed against her? She attacked them all. They all had something in common. They were always wrong, she was always right. They were demonic, childish devils, and on and on to the point of nausea. And yet she cries foul over their ruthless behavior? And hers is what????
ET seeks for those who will come forth as 'peacemakers', yet she can't apologize for her own words and actions and set half an example of what a peacemaker is. I've watched this garbage go on for a while now, and while I've shook my head at some of what has been said by those she likens to a 'cult', considering some of the more outrageously ridiculous things said by ET toward them, I'm surprised at how controlled they really were. There was one incident in which she attacked two of our posters here, totally demeaning their character. Again, never an apology. Never once asking for forgiveness, yet always expecting it given to her, acting as if she was Godly all along. Then she sends another poster to demand from others something she can't even offer herself. Forgiveness. That is nothing but pride and an arrogant attitude. Holier than thou. And repulsive.
Dennis, when God says keep silent I rather onbey Him than to allow anyone to force or try to influence me to do something that I know is not right.
I appreciate your comments, but as I've said I do not apologize for speaking the truth. Plus, my name is not "anybody" nor is it "everyone"... my name is Ella or ET, it is mine to accept an apology when I feel it is honest and sincere, and to reject as I see fit when I feel it is not...
Please don't go viewing just parts of my comment without taking in the total message of the post the message also applies to those things that went down in the ask a guy section as well.
You can't play the peacemaker and at the same time taunt at a person along with others playing both side of the streets... nor can you be a peacemaker and not see both side of a matter and determine what has gone wrong... as I've said wrong is wrong and it shouldn't matter who the person is or how much anyone claims to love the person...
God commands that we weigh both sides of a matter THEN make a judgment call, becasue a false balance is sin! And we are told not to become a part of other people sins by taking up for the wrong just because of friendship or so-called love... I'm just so happy my friends on this site made contact with me when they felt I was abut to lose my cool... and they confirmed what God had told me, there is a time to speak and a time to keep silent, this i why I have kept silent, and will continue to keep silent after this.
Moreover, it is finished!... so let's move on, and do those things that are pleasing in God's eye sight. Everbody always has an if I coulda, or shoulda woulda AFTER the fact!... lol
To the best of your ability Dennis, You are good man Chrarlie Brown.. of course, not in close running to Chralie Brown but close enought to call it a HALF draw :yay::glow::peace:
Saved as I've said IT IS FINISHED, but since you have something to say as an eye witness then please bring forth your evidence and let discuss this what you are spekaing... thank you!
Everybody's threads and posts are posted as to the beginning, so please don't speak out of both side of your mouth until you bring forth your evidence from the beginning of every thread and post of which you speak, people can read and people can see where mess has started and people can comprehend what they read..
This is only one, and I did not copy the entire post, so as to not show names, although a search can easily reveal who you were speaking to.
"you little childish :devil: ...you also need to learn how to stop being a tag-along...
I see why you guys can't find the right mates. first the girls or guys who WOULD be interested in you, after they read your posts and watch your behavior through your responses get turned off. Secondly, YOU YOURSELVES must be right before you can find anyone right. You must think God is crazzzee to send you somebody special when you show yoursleves are probing to be unworthy of anyone outside of your own behavior that you're displaying on this forum... wonder what you will have to say about your behavior when Jesus does return...He knows your hearts and keep perfect records!"
ET, Unless you really want me to, I have no desire to go through all the posts where your behavior was no better, and sometimes worse, than that of those you point a finger against. We all know the things we say against a person, the things that come out of our mouths, and none of us can claim ignorance in that regard unless one is so blind as to think their words, no matter how harsh, are justified in Christian behavior.
People can accuse each other, name call, whatever, all day long and for ever how long their conscience will allow them, makes no difference to me, but when it gets to the point to where one expects apologies but can't offer the same, when one can sling mud but cries attacked when they get mud in the face, can sit and talk about God not being mocked, reaping what you sow, etc, etc, etc, coming off as the "victim", when in reality you are just as guilty of "such ruhtless behavior" you accuse others of, then it just gets sickening.
No one in this forum needs me to defend them, but truth is truth, right is right, and I've never dealt well with self righteous people who can point fingers at others for the same offense they themselves have indulged.
You are concerned about speaking truth in truth and being right to right, then you should have posted my complete statement as in context. Since you did not, nor did I see wherein you gave the name of the thread I will do it for you, for those who would like to go nd read the complete thread from the begining so that the statement Saved posted will fall into place..
Thread: Return of God Jesus by Bahira posted June 3, 2011 it can be found at the bottom of page 3 if it has not moved to page 6 page . People I report, you decide... go read for yourselves... my comment in context of the thread...
Sved, Ive noticed how you guys will take out of a comment those things that you deem as wrong and that speaks to a person behavior as being mean spirited and evil and other things you and others have said toward me, although it has been the truth which you have rejcted... yet no one addresses the wrong that the others have done and spoken because of your loyal friendship ... when the truth is spoken to those who are in the wrong and in denial, it tends to offend y'all's egos, and what is spoken is preceived as being evil and means etc. Yet, what the others have spoken in such hateful and abusive laganuge, you guys found it to be funny and smart and made sarcasted remarks down talking so a sI have have said what fruit of the Sprit are you bringing forth?
But what I have spoken is correct and defense of myself aginst the mocking and bullying and defaming and attacks on me and in defense of others, whether you or anyone else liked it or not, and scriptures backs up what I have said. You falsely accuse me with what YOU personal don't like and reject, but my words speak for themselves... as I have said I do not apologize for the truth I speak... when I'm prove wrong in a matter I do and I have have no fear of apologyizing to no one when necessary.
I have always speak to the behavior and not personally attcked anyone personshood and there is a big difference in case you don't know... I speak about a person's behavior and the issues at hand, as in that half of a statement you posted as your support for your charge against me... and you and the others tend to speak about my personhood, and expect me not to speak back to you? Who did you say you are?... There is nothing in my posts that no one can read and see on their own. You say I called names, so I suppose this is name calling childish :devil:... Jesu and Paul called people worse names than this.. aw and you consider that name calling? yet it didn't make you hot enough to speak out on the forumn to chevy and twosparoow when they called me and Jude "batty old women", which was also directed to you and every woman on this forum over 50, whether you know it are not. Anytime a man speaks verbally abusive sarcastic words and makes light of any woman, he is also speaking to ALL WOMEN, and that include YOU, yet you and others sought that to be funny, not only was it spoken on this section, but was taken to the askk a man section,... sorry, I didn't hear you so strongly speak out. in all your righteousness aginst such.. Oh, I forgot maybe you and others contacted the checy and twosparrow privately, but you speak out publicly to me on open forum... that's hypocrisy on the lowest level as far as I can see... don't you think?! and what does scriptures say, about partiality and dissmulation? So I'm waiting for you and other to practice what you spreach toward me, and show me how it works by your righteoua examples... how 'bout that?
So you tell me who is self rightous and who isn't... I'm very sure all that you have spoken about me is how you truly feel and what you think and I can appreciate this, because its from your heart, and what comes out of our mouth God tells us its from the heart... but you must be able to support what you speak with evidnece when you falsely judge and condemn and accused me with wrong doing. And just because you don' t or may not like me or whatever, if you are as righteous as you say you are, and you have given your deposition of what you have observed while follwoing everything that has transpired in this matter. Surely, You must come forth with solid proof and evidence to support your false accusation you have made against me...and THIS you have not done.
You have not brought forth any thing to substantiate your false charges and claims and accusation you have so strongly and openingly made aganist me and my character and personhood on this forum...
And as I have said, IT IS FINISHED because what I have posted on this forum everyone has read and have read for themselves, and I'm very assuredly the admin can read very well and has read my posts for themsleves, and make thier own decisions and judge righteously.
My name has been made mention by twosparrow and chevy and msmarvel in the ask a guy section, and I don't even post there and only go there when someone notifies me to check out a thread or a post... so why have you not spoken out about this since you are just and righteous, is not this what righteous pople suppose to do when they see wrong?.. at least this is what my Bible so states. and you can deny that you have not seen this... I'm spekaing about tru righteousness based on what God calls righteous, not what YOU THINK you are in your righteousness.
So is this right and just, since you can't tolerate self- righteous people what your excuse for tolorating such behavior as this? Or since its about me, you're sweeping it under the rug, yet I have not seen one post of you commenting that such behavior is acceptable and becoming those you have claimed to be spiritual, even yourself as being so spirutal... So is this behavior acceptable by God, and you find acceptable?
You say I'm arrogant and self rightous... these are your words, and most people do find people who are confident in themselves to be what they call arrogant. And as Jesus said whne He was falsely accusted by the Pharasees, it is as you say... One thing I have learned in my years of working with people from all walks of life and backgrounds, arrogance is acceptable behavior in soiciety, but society does not and will not and cannot put up with, or even at the lest tolerate ignorance, so I thank you for considering me as being arrogant and not ignorant:applause: Bless you!
Why can't anyone accepts responsibility for their own words and bad behavior that is unbecoming? Is it because its hard to hear the truth up close an personal about ons self, or what?... and why is it that you can seak your mind and when owrds come back to you, you can't atke it... surely you don;t expect me to say nothing do you? maybe you do??. well if you do sorry, see I;m apologziing ... I am so sorry, but I have never been one to keep my mouth when I see a wrong, I get that's the Christ in me in defense of what God calls being riht and just and fair.
In closing of this matter let me say this, if righteousness is based on what you and others consider and call righteousness and godly behavior, then I think God has made a serous mistake in describing and imputing His rightousnes within all believers that we should follow. But if God's righteousness is based on what you interpret yourslef to be as being ighteous and gody and righteous, fair and just... then I think we might have a problem with some issues like partiality and a few other things.
You have stated that I should show by example, well, since you've got it all together and I have it all wrong, why is it that you have never as a righteous Christian who knows the right path, ever contacted me and shown me my wrong? Why is it that you have come into agreement with wrong and you are the one pointing your finger falsely accusing me, yet you have not proven or provided any such form of proof or evidence to support what your insulting and defaming comments about me...
and why is it that you can blast what you have to say to me on open form and accuse me falsely of something you cannot prove, and I have yet to see a post where you have judge or condemned or blast the others for their ruthless behavior, nor have you in all your godly righteousness ever spoken out against those things that are wrong to correct?
One thing I do know and all others who have been reading have found out and can see, when truth is spoken out by me, there tends to be those of you who do not call the truth into accountability... but tyou ry to make me as the offender and you guys beome the victims... again, its heavnely amazing...
I suppose you will find this post offense and I suppose it is because the truht does indeed offend...
From the thread Return of God Jesus on page 3 or 4, which Sved has posted but hse failed to ost the whole staement I made. You may read the beginning of the thread which will lead up to this and all the other comments made after i made ts commen and judge rightly for yourself...
Ella: browneyes, yes you posted the copyright information which also applies to everything that you, I, and anyone else has posted or quoted on this site without permission... but do you know if this is the case with this article that Bahira? Do you personally know that most spiritual writings are and can be used without such permission, since she is not selling nor has she stated this was her article, and this is for a christian form, an i doubt that Pastor Greg whouldl even mind. Do you knwo for a fact whetehr or not Bahira knowns him personally? NO YOU DON"T KNOW ONE DOGGONE THING! ... so what your prupose of posting copyright information? Do you know if she has permission to do such, or are you continue to sins by being presumptuous,a nd causign strife, and being vindictive and reviling?... these are sins you know, and you're very close to being a false accuser of your sistern in matters you know nothing about. Is this meant to be vindictive and what fruit of the spirit are you displaying?... Maybe I should check out your threads and posting history and see what quotes and stuff you have posted without author's copyright permission... so what did you profit and prove by posting the copyright information to the article?... you little childish:devil: ...you also need to learn how to stop being a tag-along...
I see why you guys can't find the right mates. first the girls or guys who WOULD be interested in you, after they read your posts and watch your behavior through your responses get turned off. Secondly, YOU YOURSELVES must be right before you can find anyone right. You must think God is crazzzee to send you somebody special when you show yoursleves are probing to be unworthy of anyone outside of your own behavior that you're displaying on this forum... wonder what you will have to say about your behavior when Jesus does return...He knows your hearts and keep perfect records!
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Please read the whole thread to see what comments were made toward me by Saved and Browyeyes-girly-girl and the others, and if this is the Christ way, then I'm in the wrong business...lol
BTW Saved, you say you are a nurse, and you have "some college" on your profile, I have been planning to ask of you after the posting between you and browneyed. But as I said I wait for the time and season to speak, and you opened the door with your post to me, so God said for me to speak...
Well, I know you're not a four year degreed RN nurse, because you said you had "some college".. so are you a two year RN to have some college, or are you a 1 year LVN to have some college, or are you a 6 or 9 month CNA to have some college?
I am asking this because I was wondering what medical training, education and license, and how much of the "some college", that you and browneye held in order for the two of you ladies to discuss and/or to make such medical dianoses, prognosis, maybe statements, projections, assumptions, suggestions, or possibilities and inferential statements that I might have dementia based on what you two preceived as symptoms of this medical disease, based on mood changes and anger as comment on in your post an that of her's?
My question to you, Are you medically qualified to make such medical agreement or suggestive claims based on what browneyed supposed, suggested and commented to you, for you to know and discuss dementia as referred toward me, as to the possibilities of having dementia or the related synptoms thereof as referred toward me? and to discuss the possibilities of what YOU think are, and maybe my medical condition based on mood changes you state are related to dementia on open public forun on this site?... is this something that is properly discussed on open forum?... just asking
et, batty old women was addressed to you and jude. No one else.:nahnah: You have said saved has falsely accused you. That's just one of many lies in your post. Self righteous hypocrite is what you are. Arrogance is one of many worldy and un-godly fruits you've shown to possess. If you think you owe no apologies and Christ is the author of your numerous rants you are sadly mistaken. Why do you keep saying It Is Finished? You may think you are God, but you aren't. Arrogant and self-righteous hypocrite. That's you! Seek God, cause you need help!:prayingm:
