These two laws can work for you, or against you it depends on what you do.
Mr.Meanie:
Phil,are you saying that a man/woman cannot be Born from above without 2 laws being fulfilled..
let us see what the WORD of GOD says to this.
Youngs Literal Translation
John 3:1 And there was a man of the Pharisees, Nicodemus his name, a ruler of the Jews,
Joh 3:2 this one came unto him by night, and said to him, `Rabbi, we have known that from God thou hast come--a teacher, for no one these signs is able to do that thou dost, if God may not be with him.'
Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, `Verily, verily, I say to thee, If any one may not be born from above, he is not able to see the reign of God;'
Joh 3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, `How is a man able to be born, being old? is he able into the womb of his mother a second time to enter, and to be born?'
John 3:5 Jesus answered, `Verily, verily, I say to thee, If any one may not be born of water, and the Spirit, he is not able to enter into the reign of God;
Joh 3:6 that which hath been born of the flesh is flesh, and that which hath been born of the Spirit is spirit.
John 3:7 `Thou mayest not wonder that I said to thee, It behoveth you to be born from above;
Literal translation
John 3:1 But there was a man from the Pharisees, Nicodemus his name, a ruler of the Jews.
Joh 3:2 This one came to Jesus by night and said to Him, Rabbi, we know that You have come as a teacher from God. For no one is able to do these miraculous signs which You do, except God be with Him.
Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, Truly, truly, I say to you, If one is not generated from above, he is not able to see the kingdom of God.
Joh 3:4 Nicodemus said to Him, How is a man able to be generated, being old? He is not able to enter into his mother's womb a second time and be born?
Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Truly, truly, I say to you, If one is not generated out of water and Spirit, he is not able to enter into the kingdom of God.
Joh 3:6 That having been generated out of the flesh is flesh, and that having been generated out of the Spirit is spirit.
John 3:7 Do not wonder because I said to you, You must be generated from above.
KJV
John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I sayn unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Joh 3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Joh 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
John 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
KJV
John 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
Literal traslation
John 19:30 Then when Jesus took the vinegar, He said, It has been finished. And bowing His head, He delivered up the spirit.
Youngs literal tranlation
John 19:30 when, therefore, Jesus received the vinegar, he said, `It hath been finished;' and having bowed the head, gave up the spirit.
Phil,i take it that you believe what some of the Health
and Wealth people proclaim.
That Yeshua did not complete the redemption of man while upon Calvary.
He had to go to Hell,be tortured of the Enemy Satan.
For three days.
Then He completed mans redemption..
Please respond with Scripture,not your opinion,or the words of other men.
That is very interesting in lieu of your post, not only do I understand the gospel I know what the Gospel is and I know how it is sent, proclaimed and what is expected of the hearer.
Now George again tell us the apostle's teaching specifically on this matter.
That is not the apostle's specific doctrine to the world of how to come from darkness to life, to be delivered from the dominion of darkness.
Your answer is not to me it is to yourself.
In case you have forgot here is your answer to Two Sparrows
RE: Monergism, Synergism and James.
Posted : 11 Jun, 2011 04:24 AM
@sparrow:
How many times must it be posted that a man is a SLAVE to sin,until yeshua sets him/her free.
John 8:29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.
John 8:30 As he spake these words, many believed on him.
John 8:31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
John 8:33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
John 8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
John 8:35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
John 8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed
There are 2 types of bondage,physical and spiritual.
An unregenerated man is in both types of bondage.
Fist he is bound spiritually,for he is dead spiritually.
As he is dead spiritually,he cannot conceive that there is enything beyond this life,so they do what is in the dead nature of man,THEY SIN,and without any type of conviction that they do wrong.
Second,they do all according to the fallen nature of Adam which everyone born of a woman has inherited form Adam.
No one can be free from sin,
That is bondage to the fallen nature of man,without fist being freed from the spiritual bondage that has enslaved them since conception.
After Yehusa has freed a person by giving them Eternal life,
Then they have choice of Submission to the will of GOD,
Or to rebel and be disciplined accordingly.
Your struggle is not with me.
Your struggle is with the Sovereignty of GOD.
He does according to His will,not according to my will,emotions,whims or tantrums.
I hope that you will be having a Blessed and safe weekend.
Shalom
Mr.Meanie
ps:
Had we had free will from birth,not one preson would be choosing to trust Yeshua to save them from the Wrath of GOD against sin.
It is the WILL of GOD ALMIGHTY to save man,
Mans will is to sin,and rebel against the GOD which created them.
It is you that says, not me that the word of is not true, when you answer the question will do exactly what is necessary to expound upon this teaching
This response violates the simple teaching Jesus gave to the church for the world, it violates scripture in more than one way.
