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God does not deal with us in this 'sentimental' way!
Posted : 10 Jun, 2011 07:09 AM
God does not deal with us in this 'sentimental' way!
(J. R. Miller, "The SILENT Christ")
"A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to Him, crying out, 'Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is suffering terribly from demon-possession!' Jesus did not answer her a word!" Matthew 15:22
We are apt to forget that the aim of God with us, is . . .
not to flood us with tenderness all the time,
not to keep our path always strewn with flowers,
not to continually give us everything we want,
not to save us from all manner of suffering.
No! God's aim with us, is . . .
to make something of us,
to build up strong and noble character in us,
to mature qualities of grace and beauty in us,
to make us more like Christ!
To do this�He must ofttimes deny us what we ask for, and must seem indifferent to our cries. "Jesus did not answer her a word!"
There are 'sentimental ideas of God' prevalent, which are dishonoring to Him. There are those who imagine that God's love means tenderness that cannot cause pain. They think that He cannot look a moment on suffering, without relieving it; that He must instantly hear and answer every cry for the removal of trouble.
Not such a God�is the God of the Bible! When suffering is the best thing for us�He is not too sympathetic to let us suffer�until the work of suffering is accomplished in us. He is not too kind to be silent to our prayers�when it is better that He should be silent for a time, to allow . . .
faith to grow strong,
self-confidence to be swept away, and
the evil in us�to be burned out in the furnace of pain!
There is a danger with all of us�our tenderness lacks strength. We cannot tolerate to see people suffer, and so we hasten to give relief�before the ministry of suffering is accomplished. We think of our mission to others, as being only 'to make life easier for them'. We are continually lifting away burdens, which it were better to have left resting longer on our friend's shoulder! We are eager to make life easy for our children�when it were better if it had been left hard.
We must learn that God does not deal with us in this 'sentimental' way. He is not too tender to see us suffer�if more suffering is needed to work in us the discipline that will make us like Christ!
Here we have the key of many of the 'mysteries of Providence'. Life is not easy for us�and God does not intend it to be easy!
Suppose for a moment, that God immediately gave us everything we ask for�and immediately removed every little pain, trouble, difficulty, and hardness that we seek to have removed; what would be the result on us? How selfish it would make us! We would become weak, unable to endure suffering, to bear trial, to carry burdens, or to struggle. We would be only children always�and would never rise into manly strength. God's over-kindness to us�would pamper in us all the worst elements of our nature, and would make us only poor driveling creatures!
On the other hand, however, God's wise and firm treatment of us, teaches us the great lessons which make us strong with the strength of Christ Himself.
He teaches us to yield our own will to Him.
He develops in us�patience, faith, love, hope and peace.
He trains us to endure hardness�that we may grow heroic, courageous and strong.
It is well for us to make careful note of this�that in all God's delays when we pray�His aim is some good in us.
Perhaps we are willful, asking only for our own way�and must learn to say, "May Your will be done."
Perhaps we are weak, unable to bear pain or to endure adversity or loss�and we must be trained and disciplined into strength.
Perhaps our desires are only for earthly good, not for heavenly blessings�and we must be taught the transitory character of all worldly things, and led to desire things which are eternal.
Perhaps we are impatient�and must be taught to wait for God. We are like children in our eager restlessness�and need to learn self-restraint.
At the least, we may always know that silence is not refusal�that God hears and cares, and that when our faith has learned its lessons�He will answer in blessing!
"The Lord disciplines the one He loves, and punishes every son whom He receives." Hebrews 12:6
"God disciplines us for our good�that we may share in His holiness." Hebrews 12:10
God does not deal with us in this 'sentimental' way!
Posted : 10 Jun, 2011 04:33 PM
He promises us tomorrow, do you know where it is, Now i never said God said it would be easy either, but nor do i blame or put it on him for Satan's work.
This post is a good example of how Satan perverts the word to bring forth his lies.
The scripture is posted and then the article:
A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to Him, crying out, 'Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is suffering terribly from demon-possession!' Jesus did not answer her a word!" Matthew 15:22
We are apt to forget that the aim of God with us, is . . .
not to flood us with tenderness all the time,
not to keep our path always strewn with flowers,
not to continually give us everything we want,
not to save us from all manner of suffering.
No! God's aim with us, is . . .
to make something of us,
to build up strong and noble character in us,
to mature qualities of grace and beauty in us,
to make us more like Christ!
To do this�He must ofttimes deny us what we ask for, and must seem indifferent to our cries. "Jesus did not answer her a word!"
Now study that whole context of that passage in lieu of what is said.
Mt 15:22 , behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.
23 But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.
24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
25 Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children�s bread, and to cast it to dogs.
27 And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters� table.
28 Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.
God does not deal with us in this 'sentimental' way!
Posted : 10 Jun, 2011 04:55 PM
At it as usual, huh judge? I just read some of your comments on page 6 when bahira was accusing the whole forum of being fake christians.lol It amazes me how phony some women are.:yay:
God does not deal with us in this 'sentimental' way!
Posted : 10 Jun, 2011 05:04 PM
Ha Ha Ha..you are a Silly guy...I give a Atta Boy to Brother PJ for Good Word cuz its in Context & you jus have to make a smat alec comment like that ??...Well...I gota say to that is...May GOD Bless yer lil ol Heart Chevy...xo
God does not deal with us in this 'sentimental' way!
Posted : 10 Jun, 2011 05:54 PM
I wonder why the Health and wealthers will tell a person that they had done something wonderful,even if it is wrong...
Phil,you are wrong about persacution,sickness,death and a host of other things.
The very things you accuse others of,you yourself are very guilty of.
Here is the Word of GOD.
Act 9:15 And the Lord said to him, Go, for this one is a chosen vessel to Me, to bear My name before nations and kings and the sons of Israel.
Act 9:16 For I will show him how much he must suffer for the sake of My name.
Rom 8:16 The Spirit Himself witnesses with our spirit that we are children of God.
Rom 8:17 And if children, also heirs; truly heirs of God, and joint-heirs of Christ, if indeed we suffer together, that we may also be glorified together.
1Co 12:26 And if one member suffers, all the members suffer with it. If one member is glorified, all the members rejoice with
it.
2Co 1:5 Because even as the sufferings of Christ abound in us, so also our comfort abounds through Christ.
2Co 1:6 But if we are troubled, it is for your comfort and salvation, being worked out in the endurance of the same sufferings which we also suffer. If we are comforted, it is for your comfort and salvation;
2Co 1:7 and our hope for you is certain, knowing that even as you are sharers of the sufferings, so also of the comfort.
2Co 1:8 For, brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant as to our affliction having happened to us in Asia, that we were excessively burdened beyond our power, so as for us even to despair of living.
2Co 1:9 But we ourselves have the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust on ourselves, but on God, the One raising the dead,
Philip 1:29 because it was granted to you on behalf of Christ not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer on His behalf,
2Thess 1:4 so as for us to boast ourselves in you in the assemblies of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions, and the afflictions which you endure,
2Thess 1:5 a clear token of the just judgment of God, for you to be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you indeed suffer;
2Tim 2:3 Then you suffer hardship as a good soldier of Jesus Christ.
Heb 11:24 Having become great, Moses by faith refused to be called the son of Pharaoh's daughter,
Heb 11:25 having chosen rather to suffer affliction with the people of God than for a time to have enjoyment of sin;
Heb 11:26 having counted the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures of Egypt, for he was looking to the reward.
1Pe 3:14 But if you truly suffer because of righteousness, blessed are you. "But do not fear their fear, nor be disturbed.
1Pe 3:15 But sanctify" Isa. 8:12, 13 the Lord God in your hearts, and always be ready to give an answer to everyone asking you a reason concerning the hope in you, with meekness and fear,
1Pe 3:16 having a good conscience, that while they speak against you as evildoers, they may be shamed, those falsely accusing your good behavior in Christ.
1Pe 3:17 For it is better, if the will of God wills it, to suffer for doing good than for doing evil.
1Pe 3:18 Because even Christ once suffered concerning sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God; indeed being put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the Spirit;
God does not deal with us in this 'sentimental' way!
Posted : 10 Jun, 2011 06:12 PM
I would start a thread titled "verses for PhillipJohn" but it would end up being half the entire Bible.
Please, PhillipJohn read the following verses and then tell us what they mean.......
Deu 32:39 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.
1Sa 2:6-8 The LORD killeth, and maketh alive: he bringeth down to the grave, and bringeth up. The LORD maketh poor, and maketh rich: he bringeth low, and lifteth up. He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD'S, and he hath set the world upon them.
God does not deal with us in this 'sentimental' way!
Posted : 10 Jun, 2011 06:12 PM
I would start a thread titled "verses for PhillipJohn" but it would end up being half the entire Bible.
Please, PhillipJohn read the following verses and then tell us what they mean.......
Deu 32:39 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.
1Sa 2:6-8 The LORD killeth, and maketh alive: he bringeth down to the grave, and bringeth up. The LORD maketh poor, and maketh rich: he bringeth low, and lifteth up. He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD'S, and he hath set the world upon them.
