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Totally Depraved from birth?
Posted : 5 Jun, 2011 02:38 AM

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Totally Depraved from birth?
Posted : 5 Jun, 2011 05:23 PM

James you are always soooo....complicated!

It is simple:

God creates us as a seed

God supplies the soil

God plants us in the soil

God waters us

God makes the sun shine upon us

God gives us air

We can stay a seed

or...

Die to being a seed and come to life



And somehow beyond my comprehension this is robbing Glory from God?

Somehow I made myself grow?

Responding to God's work is considered a human work which earns salvation?



:ROFL:

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Totally Depraved from birth?
Posted : 6 Jun, 2011 07:12 AM

Man is constituted a sinner by his relationship with Adam Psa 51:5; Psa 58:3; Rom 5:18-19 He is therefore unable



To do anything good

Gen 6:5; Job 15:14-16; Psa 130:3; Psa 143:2; Pro 20:9; Ecc 7:20; Isa 64:6; Jer 13:23; John 3:19; Rom 3:9-12; Jam 3:8; 1John 1:8

To believe in God (or come to him)

John 6:44; John 6:65; John 8:43-45; John 10:26; John 12:37-41

To understand the truth

John 14:17; 1Cor 2:14

To seek God

Rom 3:10-11



He is dead in sins Gen 2:16-17; John 3:5-7; Eph 2:1-3; Col 2:13 He is blinded and corrupt in his heart Gen 6:5; Gen 8:21; Ecc 9:3; Jer 17:9; Mark 7:21-23; John 3:19-21; Rom 8:7-8; Eph 4:17-19; Eph 5:8 He is captive to sin and Satan John 8:34; John 8:44; Rom 6:20; 2Tim 2:25-26; Titus 3:3; 1John 5:19 He performs actions freely according to his nature, but his nature is wholly evil Job 14:4; Mat 7:16-18; Mat 12:33; Mark 7:21-23; Jam 1:13-14





In Christ,





James

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