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Message for 'muslims' and the true christians
Posted : 4 Jun, 2011 10:01 PM

Brothers,



The other day I have spoken to two my brothers.

I love them both. I highly respect them both. I have never insulted them both. I appreciate them like my fathers or brothers. If I could marry them I would marry them both. Hahahaha. If in our Christian Islam it would be permitted. I would take five or ten other beautiful Arabs to be my husbands too. They all are like princes beautiful and perfect men created by God.

But of course I would put on them black niqab to keep them from other women and potential sin of sex.

And all Arabs are so perfect. All Arabs are a great nation.

But why do I call them perfect?

Because my God loves them!

Of course I hate their sins.

But my God LOVES them all UNCONDITIONALLY.

How do I know it?

It is written in the Holy Scripture called the Bible.

Why are they perfect?

Let me share with you what I said the other day:



�I love you as my brother and friend.



BUT:

It is impossible. I am Christian and I cannt commit sins. If a person lives with God,

he does not sin. So, I am living with God and I do not sin.

I prefer to live alone and die alone, than to commit any sexual sins.

Sorry but my God is Father and He is teaching me to live so....



You are beautiful man but your character is VERY bad. I have never seen anyone who

has such bad character! Live with God and He will improve you.

Or you will get to the hell fire.





My brother Aliasgar said:



Hello Bahira



If Islam is wrong, then the Qur'an has left an open challenge for you to disprove it. Produce only one chapter like it. The smallest chapter in the Qur'an is 3 verses and about a line long. Produce a chapter like that and then I would consider Islam being incorrect. If you can do it, then you can disprove that the Qur'an is the word of God. If you however cannot, then you also must accept the fact that the Qur'an is no ordinary book and could not have been written by a mortal.



Good Luck



Aliasgar



I said also to my brother Aliasgar:



Aliasgar,



your Quran is written by demons. Demons are aliens if you wish. They are not human beings!

They are deceiving people to kill them and you are among their victims now.

Why you are so stupid and you do not understand it?!

Analyse the scripture of demons and the Holy Scripture written by people inspired by God and

you will see the difference between death and LIFE. LOVE of God and death -jihad.

You know what I think: why God did allow you to live if you do not need Him?

Why do you live to perish?

What is the result of your life if you follow demons?

Why did God need you if you are so stupid and even cannt see who is God and realize what are His plans toward you?

I cannt uderstand it.



He calls His relationships with you as LOVE.

May be you really deserve to be loved by Him.

But what is the result/outcome of your life and reasons to keep you if you will finally perish after the Judgment Day of Ibn Allah?

He said: He is suffering long trying to RETURN you BACK. This is His LOVE and you will never find it in any person or other god.



Ask yourself: why do you live if you will perish if you will follow the demons' religion Islam?!



Do you love astrophysics?

You know one of the latest hypotheses is that we are living in a virtual world and our atoms

are just pixels on the screen of our Creator in His Program called the world.

I try just to understand: is it so or not and what is your game in His 'virtual' world...

I was thinking that it is so stupid to have unbelievers in this world...those who never will

believe in Him and live as He commands.

I want to know why you do not need Him if He is PERFECT. His Son in this Program 'world'

is like Avatar (did you see this film by the way? If not, you should see it.) and He revealed us the nature of God the Father.

Oh I know His purpose for your life: He needs to give you His Kingdom and He knows when it will happen. He know the end from the beginning because He is omniscient. Such is His nature.



Do you know why I am also sure that His Son will save you? Because I am praying Him about you every day and finally He will get you BACK to His Home because my God is FAITHFUL to me and you.



My brother Aliasgar said:



Why do you always pretend like you know everything? You didn't actually make me think at all I gave you an answer within minutes if you will see when I replied....I didn't need to think....

And anyway....If you're comparing Jesus to being an avatar, then some Hindus also believe in One SUPREME God and all the idols as avatars who reveal the various natures of God according to them...you are no different to them....



You have to pray to the right God to get your prayer accepted. My only prayer for you is that you will keep an open-mind and think logically rather than emotionally...



Aliasgar :)



My response to Aliasgar:



Why do I pretend to know everything? Because I know everything...lol...hahahah

I made you to think and ponder on my words....I know it...You were just thinking for a few minutes...hahahah

You didnt answer: did you watch this film? You can get in shop...you will love this film.

I think this film was made by a Christian who understands how the world

works...many interesting ideas I see there...by the way I love scientific fiction�.

Yes, I know what Indians think and the Scripture says that we cannt be incarnated

as Jesus. That�s why Indian religions are false teachings and cults created by demons. Our Indian brothers need to wash their sins not in the �holy� water which is dirty and full of dead bodies of people, but by God. He is going to forgive all their sins and if even I would baptize your brothers in the dirty waters of the Ganges River to get forgiveness of their sins, then they would really be cleansed because God would forgive all their sins and NOT this dirty water! Initially water of the Ganges River is flowing down from mountains. Initially water is pure, but people make it dirty. DEAD bodies make it dirty. Our DEEDS make it dirty! Our DEEDS make our life and souls dirty! But no matter how dirty is your life or body or hands stained by blood of your victims, Hamas, God said that He is going to forgive and forget your sins. He deliberately forgets them and forgives us, remembering all our lovers and iniquities and murders. But why? Because His Son- Ibn Allah descended to our world and took millions of sins of people to His HOLY body. Our sins were among them. Jesus suffered instead of us. He was killed and He is alive and He is coming back to judge us during the coming war in Jerusalem when Muslims states will come to attack Jews. Islam and the Holy Bible says it.

Your children and sons Hamas will be among those who are going to kill your Jewish brothers. Your sons Palestine will attack your brothers Jews in whom is the same blood of your father Ibrahim/Abraham.

Sons of Hamas, look at Indian people. They come out of the dirty waters of the Ganges River and they are cleansed! Why? How is it possible? They are purified by God Himself. Because they decided to put their TRUST in His Son- Ibn Allah. They step into water and submerge and by rising up from water their sins are washed away. But they are washed away not by water but by the blood of Ibn Allah dropped from the tortured body of Ibn Allah. His blood was shed on the cross when He accepted our sins to His body. Water remains dirty but we become HOLY and cleansed of our sins and iniquities and wrongdoings. Ibn Allah made a wudu for us that�s why we are able to come into the HOLY place of God�s presence to ask Him for support during our daily prayers/salat. We do not need to wash our hands before we will pray Him, because He has already cleansed us and called us HOLY. Masjid is not holy for us but we became HOLY sons of God and when we enter into masjid then the darkness steps away and God�s light shining to our brothers. God imputed us the righteousness of His Son Jesus, that�s why we are HOLY. And God calls us to walk in righteousness and to live a godly and holy life that our LIGHT would not stop shining in the darkness to our loved ones, friends, brothers and nations.



So, Indian religions speak about re-incarnation of people. By the way I know an expert who knows these religions very well. She is Mona Saleh. May be Mona will share with us what she knows? But we- Christians-do not believe in reincarnation.



But when we die, we all go to the imprisonment before our trial during the Judgment Day, called the hell or for some of us this place will be heaven. And judgment will be done by Jesus in Jerusalem upon His Second Coming. Then all dead bodies will be resurrected. All will be judged ..even children.

But Christians will be justified through their FAITH in Ibn Allah.

Some Christians who are in fact unbelievers/fake Christians or so-called Christians or in-the-name-only Christians will be condemned by God and millions of them will get to the lake of fire. It will be the 2nd death. Demons/jinns/the fallen angels will be cast down to this lake of fire too.

So, we will not be reincarnated but we will be resurrected. What does it mean?

Bodies of Christians before the Second Coming of Jesus will be transformed to be like bodies of angels.

But you will not get there to this lake, because I will not stop praying about you asking God to

convert your heart from death to the LIGHT of Ibn Allah and save your soul.

Blessings!



Brothers, children will be judged by God too.

What does it mean?

The young and old; the rich and poor; the bond and free; the sick and well; the happy and the unhappy; the righteous and the wicked;

for all the human family might, in these respects, be judged by God.



The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.



The Great White Throne Judgment



Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it,

from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away.

And there was found no place for them.

And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened.

And another book was opened,

which is the Book of Life.

And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works.

Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire.

This is the second death.

And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

Revelation 20:10-15



The nations were angry;

and your wrath has come.

The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your saints and those who reverence your name,

both small and great--and for destroying those who destroy the earth."

Revelation 11:18



But what about those people who sin against children?

God will judge such people.

But should our laws judge such people?

If God judges such people then even our conscience like the voice of God does not stop saying that such crimes are terrible and should be punished.

Should we execute those who commit crimes against children?

Of course we would say: YES.



But who can be these people?

Parents.

Other children.

Catholic priests.

Now NOTE: Muhammad (pbuh).

Iranian Ayatollah Khomeini

Iranian Ayatollah Taqi Mesbah-e Yazdi





Oh, I can imagine your faces right now.

But let�s consider WHY.



Iranian Ayatollah Taqi Mesbah-e Yazdi affirms legitimacy of suicide operations, approves killing Israeli civilians �including children. He said: martyrdom operations are not only permissible but obligatory. And only those Israelis who openly denounce their Government are illegitimate targets.



Illegitimate babies murdered in Pakistan: The Edhi Foundation estimates that more than 1,000 infants-most of them girls�were killed or abandoned to die in Pakistani cities in 2010. In the conservative Muslim nation, where the birth of children outside of marriage is condemned and adultery is a crime punishable by death under strict interpretations of Islamic law, infanticide is a crime on the rise. Crimes of infanticide are rarely prosecuted. The majority of police stations do not register cases of infanticide, let alone launch investigations into them. (January 17, 2011)



Afghan child brides beaten for fleeing husbands: Rod Nordland and Alissa J. Rubin tell how Khadija Rasoul, 13, and Basgol Sakhi, 14, from the village of Gardan-i-Top, in the Dulina district of Ghor Province, central Afghanistan.

A policeman at a checkpoint stopped the bus they were in. Disguised in boys' clothes, the girls, ages 13 and 14, had been fleeing for two days along rutted roads and over mountain passes to escape their illegal, forced marriages to much older men. There they were publicly and viciously flogged for daring to run away from their husbands. Their tormentors, who videotaped the abuse, were not the Taliban, but local mullahs and the former warlord, now a pro-government figure who largely rules the district where the girls live. Neither girl flinched visibly at the beatings, and afterward both walked away with their heads unbowed.



"Resaleh" (Towzih ol Masael) book of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini:

A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual acts such as foreplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed. A man having intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not committed a crime, but only an infraction, if the girl is not permanently damaged. If the girl, however, is permanently damaged, the man must provide for her all her life. But this girl will not count as one of the man's four permanent wives. He also is not permitted to marry the girl's sister.



From Khomeini's book, "Tahrirolvasyleh":

�A man can have sex with animals such as sheeps, cows, camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his oorgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village; however, selling the meat to the next door village should be fine.�



�Homosexuality, is regarded as shameful by barbarians and by those who live under despotic governments just as philosophy is regarded as shameful by them, because it is apparently not in the interest of such rulers to have great ideas engendered in their subjects, or powerful friendships or passionate love-all of which homosexuality is particularly apt to produce."�



Now let�s discuss which crimes against children were committed by Muhammad (pbuh):

Islam allows female children to be married and engaged in sex prior to their first menses (prepubescent).

If you are in doubt concerning those of your wives who have ceased menstruating, know that their waiting period shall be three months. The same shall apply to those who have not menstruated. As for pregnant women, their term shall end with their confinement. God will ease the hardship of the man who fears him. 65:4, Dawood

Since Muslim men are to wait 3 months before divorcing a prepubescent child it means that they have been engaging in sex with those children.



Hadith states that Aisha (wife of Muhammad) was 9 when they consummated their marriage and he was 51.

(Hadith of Bukhari, volume 5, #234)

"Narrated Aisha that the prophet wrote the marriage contract with her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: "I have been informed that Aisha remained with the prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." (Bukhari vol. 7, #65)

Aisha reported: Allah�s Messenger married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house at the age of nine�. (Hadith of Muslim, volume 2, #3309)



'A'isha reported that she used to PLAY WITH DOLLS in the presence of Allah's Messenger and when her playmates came to her they left (the house) because they felt shy of Allah's Messenger whereas Allah's Messenger sent them to her. (Sahih Muslim, Book 031, Number 5981)





Today, Imam Khomeini is officially the first Imam in Iran, the 13th Shiite Imam (honorary Imam) and his shrine (Imamzadeh) is one of the most trafficked Shiite Shrines in the world.

Khomeini is officially a Shiite Saint. But words of Khomeini show us who is his god. God of the Holy Scripture which existed MANY CENTURIES before foundation of Islam said:



Give honor to marriage, and remain faithful to one another in marriage. God will surely judge people who are immoral and those who commit adultery. Hebrews 13:4



Run from anything that stimulates youthful lust. Follow anything that makes you want to do right. Pursue faith and love and peace, and enjoy the companionship of those who call on the Lord with pure hearts. 2 Timothy 2: 22



Then each of you will control your body and live in holiness and honor - not in lustful passion as the pagans do, in their ignorance of God and his ways. Never cheat a Christian brother in this matter by taking his wife, for the Lord avenges all such sins, as we have solemnly warned you before. God has called us to be holy, not to live impure lives. Anyone who refuses to live by these rules is not disobeying human rules but is rejecting God, who gives his Holy Spirit to you. 1 Thessalonians 4 :4-8



Leviticus chapter 18

The LORD spoke to Moses,

"Tell the Israelites: I am the LORD your God.

Follow my rules,

and live by my standards.

I am the LORD your God.

Live by my standards, and obey my rules.

You will have life through them. I am the LORD.



"never have sexual intercourse with anyone related to you by blood. I am the LORD.

"Never have sexual intercourse with your mother. She is your own mother. Never have sexual intercourse with her.

"Never have sexual intercourse with your stepmother. She is related to you through your father.

"Never have sexual intercourse with your stepsister, whether she is your father's daughter or your mother's daughter. It makes no difference whether or not she was born in your house.

"Never have sexual intercourse with your granddaughter, whether she is your son's daughter or your daughter's daughter, because she is related to you.

"Never have sexual intercourse with a daughter of your father and his wife. She is your own sister.

"Never have sexual intercourse with your father's sister. She is your paternal aunt.

"Never have sexual intercourse with your mother's sister. She is your maternal aunt.

"Never have sexual intercourse with the wife of your father's brother. She, too, is your aunt.

"Never have sexual intercourse with your daughter-in-law. She is your son's wife. Never have sexual intercourse with her.

"Never have sexual intercourse with your sister-in-law. She is your brother's wife.

"Never have sexual intercourse with a woman and her daughter or a woman and her granddaughter. They are related. Doing this is perverted.

"While your wife is living, never marry her sister as a rival wife and have sexual intercourse with her.

"Never have sexual intercourse with your neighbor's wife and become unclean with her.

"Never have sexual intercourse with a man as with a woman. It is disgusting.

"Never have sexual intercourse with any animal and become unclean with it. A woman must never offer herself to an animal for sexual intercourse. It is unnatural. "



Why should you obey this God and NOT false prophets and teachers like Muhammad or Khomeini?



Muhammad�s god instructed him on what to eat, what to wear, even how to wipe himself! Wouldn�t this same god instruct Muhammad about the sexual abuse of children? Girls at age 9 are not mature enough, either physically, emotionally, or mentally, to be put into those type of "marriage" situations. Sin of Muhammad and what Khomeini is teaching is ABOMINATION for the Holy God of Israel! That�s why Muhammad is buring now in the hell fire. He is in hell judged by God for countless number of sins among which are such sexual immorality.



Ibn Allah said, "You shall know them (false prophets) by their fruits", Matthew 7:20. We see that one of Muhammad's fruits was allowing young girls to be subjected to a brutal custom of children marriage. Another his fruit is massacre of hundreds of people in Mecca under jihad (extermination of the Jewish tribe). God said to Moses and Israelites: YOU SHALL NOT KILL. Muhammad did not obey God, that�s why he is in the hell fire. He prophesized words of demons/jinns and you Muslims are killed by him too because you follow him to the hell fire. Jesus told His followers many centuries before foundation of Islam by Muhammad that false prophets would arise and mislead many to hell. Muhammad is to be rejected as such a false prophet. Pedophilia is permitted by Muhammad and Khomeini but the real God�s character and standards far exceed Islamic allah�s! Because Ibn Allah said:



"You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery. But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart." Matthew 5:27. 28.

How does Muhammad fare under God�s standards? Muhammad was a false prophet with a destructive message and as such Muhammad has done satan�s bidding and oppressed and misled millions. You are AMONG them now! To this day the Islamic world is kept in its bondage. The more fundamentalist an Islamic nation is, the darker is their society because they do not follow God who is LIGHT. His LIGHT reveals their evil deeds and crimes, but they prefer to hide them behind beautiful white Arabic clothes and niqab committing sex with men, children and animals and selling the meat of these lovers-sheeps to their neighbors for food. You eat your lovers Muslims and lovers of your brothers but God is going to judge you all because He said:



And He said to me,

�It is done!

I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End.

I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts.

He who overcomes shall inherit all things,

and I will be his God and he shall be My son.

But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.� Revelation 21:6-8

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Posted : 8 Jun, 2011 05:02 AM

Thank you that you" stopped reading this thread after the poster said she would marry 5 or 10 Muslims."



Because I am discussing terrible stories rel.to Shia spiritual leaders. You would be frightened...:excited:

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Posted : 8 Jun, 2011 06:07 PM

I read your comments but I dont have a clue what you are talking about!!!



Are you saying that you are trying to convert Muslims?

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Posted : 10 Jun, 2011 04:47 PM

I don't get how people can be so phony. It amazes me. Judge, I see you're still at it.:ROFL:

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