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Posted : 26 May, 2011 08:34 AM

I will put together a few Scripture which have been used wrongly,to try to prove that H-W can call into existence things that they desire.





Pro 18:21 Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.



Rom 4:17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.



According to the H-W proclaimers,Yeshau called into existence the things we see from nothing.



As He had spoken POWER went out from His mouth,power to create.

We also can create,for there is power in what we say.

According to Proverbs 18:21 Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.





We can create wealth by speaking it into existence.



Kenneth Copeland in one of His earlier books had written;

'When GOD speaks things come into being,there is power released'.







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ARE CHRISTIANS �LITTLE GODS�?



Written by: deb on Wed, Jan 13 2010.



Have you ever heard Word of Faith proselytizers teaching a heretical theology in which they refer to themselves as �little gods�?





Here�s an excerpt from the Wikipedia article on �Word of Faith� that explains this �little gods� heresy.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_of_Faith



�Many Word of Faith teachers have sought to emphasize the full meaning of the believer�s status as a child of God (through Christ) by using phrases such as �little gods� to describe them, a practice that has garnered some criticism from some other segments of the Christian community .



Kenneth Hagin wrote that God �made us in the same class of being that he is himself,� and that the believer is �called Christ� because �that�s who we are, we�re Christ!�



According to Hagin, by being �born again�, the believer becomes �as much an incarnation as Jesus of Nazareth�.



Kenneth Copeland says Adam was �not a little like God � not almost like God ��, and has told believers that �You don�t have a God in you. You are one.�

Based primarily on the Psalms 82:6, which says �I have said, Ye are gods and all of you, children of the Most High�; this was also corroborated by Jesus making reference to this scripture in John 10:34.

A common theme in Word of Faith preaching is that God created man as �an exact duplication of God�s kind.� (Hebrews 1:3, John 14:12, etc) It should be noted that in all of this, there is no argument of man�s ability to exist and operate independently of God but rather, the emphasis in on what the believer can become in God.



Suffer the Children, a documentary highlighting some of the teachings of the Word of Faith movement, has a video clip of Creflo Dollar teaching the �little gods� doctrine to his congregation based on the notion that �everything reproduces after its own kind�.



Dollar: �If horses get together, they produce what?�

Congregation: �Horses!�

Dollar: �If dogs get together, they produce what?�

Congregation: �Dogs!�

Dollar: �If cats get together, they produce what?�

Congregation: �Cats!�

Dollar: �So if the Godhead says �Let us make man in our image�, and everything produces after its own kind, then they produce what?�

Congregation: �Gods!�

Dollar: �Gods. Little �g� gods. You�re not human. Only human part of you is this flesh you�re wearing.�





Now listen to Joyce Meyer explaining why she believes in this false theology.



Joyce Meyer Teaches on �Little Gods�



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y4eVu2oxP8&NR=1







For further evidence regarding the teaching of �little gods�, here is an excerpt from an excellent web site that documents the promotion of this heresy by Kenneth and Gloria Copeland and their mentor Kenneth Hagin.



http://www.watchman.org/reltop/unbiblcl.htm





The life and death the tongue contains,is that we are able to destroy a person with our words and conversations about them to others.



Instead this is how we should be using our tongues.



Eph 4:25 Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another.



Kenneth Copeland has been discipling Creflo Dollar in the art of speaking gibberish.



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Posted : 26 May, 2011 04:08 PM

I agree.

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Posted : 26 May, 2011 04:12 PM

River, jenifer I do not believe anybody wants to fight with you. The word of God says to follow Jesus. i knew a pastor who wrote Joyce Meyers about her teaching about little Gods.

He never got a reply. He was just asking because he did not agree with it. He wrote a nice letter.

If they will not repond to a question maybe they do not really beieve it.

About little Gods.

Thou shall only have 1 God. it is the Lord God because he is a jealous God.

He who teaches little gods is breaking 1 of the commandments. We are not to follow false prophets friends.

My dear sister jenifer-------> once more I say I do not believe anybody here wishes to argue with you.

When I first got saved the pastor of my church made an error and invited a false prophet to come to our church. he walked up to me and said that I would be a great man of God who travels the world and speaks to whole stadums full of people.

it was later proven that he made these things up. I was burnt i had believed it and told my unsaved family. talking about eating crow. false teachers and prophets will get their reward.

i know nothing of Benny Hinn or Copeland, Hagin as such. I do not buy their books and do not have cable.

Anyways, God is their judge, I do not follow false teachings but the word of God. The Health and wealth message is mistaught from its real meaning. i hope that some would have read my post correcting the misteaching on it. Do not take what any says personal Jenifer. Now you may understand why I believe the way I do.

i do not like being made into a clown. i was not happy when I found out that guy lied to me. Youe caring brother in the lord, Dennis

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Posted : 26 May, 2011 05:16 PM

Just about every ancient civilization has records, stories myths and legends of gods that 'came down' and gave man knowledge. Even archaeology backs up these stories as the evidence reveals approximately. 5 to 6 thousand years ago mankind 'suddenly' jumped out of the stone age. There was a war in heaven and these angels were cast down to earth. Most are familiar with the greek gods and the titians. It is extremely interesting to note the similarities between the greek gods and the fallen angels or the "sons of God". And the Titians and the Nephilim. The primary similarity is they both took mortal women and bore offspring.

It is interesting to consider that God came to earth not as a grown man but as the offspring of a woman and the Holy Spirit to do battle with this fallen angels on our behalf. Jesus said he saw Satan fall like lighting. Who is the greek god of lighting?...Zeus, the god of the gods.

There is so much more to our reality here on earth than our "sanitized Christian paradigm"

"Our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the powers of this dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms"

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Posted : 26 May, 2011 06:07 PM

TS, are you referring to the Nephilim?



I don't recall naming names and my motive is to expose false doctrine teaching, not slander anyone.

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Posted : 26 May, 2011 06:11 PM

I posted that before I saw your post, :glow:.



Fallen angels is a good study, you should start that thread, TS.

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Posted : 26 May, 2011 08:47 PM

Jennifer, Dennis is right. No one wants to fight with you. Not sure what gave you that idea. I'm thankful for POIC, TS, james, joeysings. I think anytime false doctrine is exposed, it's a good thing. So what if ya name names. If they are preaching false doctrine, why not name them? There's a difference between slander and exposing those who teach doctrines of devils. I Love you, river.

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Posted : 27 May, 2011 12:38 AM

Chevy and Dennis,



You are softies and deserve a very loving wife. I will pray God sends them to you. Nice guys~:applause:

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Posted : 27 May, 2011 06:45 AM

@joeysings:



What about me,what about me.



Oh i know,i'm just an old meanie.



I must be getting Big Berth the elephant trainer;

she also subs during the womens wrestling matches.



Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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Posted : 27 May, 2011 08:17 AM

:ROFL: Health and Wealth #4?

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Posted : 27 May, 2011 09:56 AM

but who are we to say what doctrine is false or not?

being followers of Jesus Christ is right, following man, is WRONG- we have to know for ourselves and have our own relationship with Him.

so whoever I hear preaching/teaching, John McArthur, Joyce Meyer, James Dobson, Hank Hanigraff (sp), David Wilkerson, Joel Osteen, Bayless Conley, TBN people, Nikki Cruz....anyone, I filter out what my spirit doesnt bear witness to and grab a hold of the rest. (or try to anyway)



I love James Dobson but I dont agree with everything he teaches either. I guess that's how you guys feel about TD Jakes and others...but I'm not going to drag his name thru the mud, he's respected man of God as are the others.

it's my OPINION from what I have gathered over the years that has helped in my own walk with God that tells me NO, that's wrong.



that's all I'm saying...I guess we're different

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