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more quotes of a christian church Jew hating father
Posted : 16 May, 2011 06:20 PM
Accordingly, it must and dare not be considered a trifling matter but a most serious one to seek counsel against this and to save our souls from the Jews, that is, from the devil and from eternal death. My advice, as I said earlier, is:
First, that their synagogues be burned down, and that all who are able toss sulphur and pitch; it would be good if someone could also throw in some hellfire...
Second, that all their books-- their prayer books, their Talmudic writings, also the entire Bible-- be taken from them, not leaving them one leaf, and that these be preserved for those who may be converted...
Third, that they be forbidden on pain of death to praise God, to give thanks, to pray, and to teach publicly among us and in our country...
Fourth, that they be forbidden to utter the name of God within our hearing. For we cannot with a good conscience listen to this or tolerate it...
-Martin Luther (On the Jews and Their Lies)
Here's a second quote:
My essay, I hope, will furnish a Christian (who in any case has no desire to become a Jew) with enough material not only to defend himself against the blind, venomous Jews, but also to become the foe of the Jews' malice, lying, and cursing, and to understand not only that their belief is false but that they are surely possessed by all devils. May Christ, our dear Lord, convert them mercifully and preserve us steadfastly and immovably in the knowledge of him, which is eternal life. Amen.
-Martin Luther (On the Jews and Their Lies)
What do you think? Was Luther as bad as these quotes sound? Was it merely the air he breathed or did have a certain disgust for the Jewish people?
more quotes of a christian church Jew hating father
Posted : 16 May, 2011 09:09 PM
I think that Antisemitism just give more evidence to the bible being true.
God DID choose a people for Himself, and the Jews remind people of that.
We should not tolerate antisemitism in America. America was born protestant, and more specifically, Calvinist. There is no scriptural support for persecuting those who practice Judaism.
Antisemitism never made any sense to me. The Jew may look at me as a lesser person, because I am Gentile, but the Muslim is the one who wants to kill me, and the socialist is the one who wants to enslave me.
I want America to continue to be a friend of Israel. Well, I mean I want America to return to being a friend of Israel, just as soon as we get rid of the pitiful excuse of a president we now have.
There is no Spiritual significance of the modern day nation of Israel, but they are a good ally of the US, and we should stand by them, and help them fight the Muslims.
more quotes of a christian church Jew hating father
Posted : 16 May, 2011 09:34 PM
Being one of the first to translate the Torah into the modern english language of the day and combine it with the New Testament one can only imagine the animosity he received from Jews of his day, many must of absolutely hated him in much the same way Saul of Tarsus hated Christians and felt it was Gods will to kill them. Although I disagree with Luthers attitude toward Jews, had I been in his shoes, I might of felt the same way.
more quotes of a christian church Jew hating father
Posted : 17 May, 2011 03:34 AM
I like it:
We'd all be Jewish.
Not all christians will be in the kingdom of Heaven- in the New Jerusalem.
Only those whose name are written in the Book of Life
they are those who do STOPPED commiting their sins, they TURNED to God Jesus from their sins and confessed them to God.
They abandodned their lovers to live a holy life.
Those who live with God, cannt sin!
Those who do not live with God, will NOT live with Him even in the Kingdom of Heaven!
Jesus tells us that the person that �committeth sin is the servant of sin� (Jn 8:34). Paul made it clear that �For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness� (Rom 6:20) and that when you are �free from sin� you �become servants to God�.
So when you commit sin, you are the servant of sin. When you are the servant of sin, you are free from righteousness. When you are free from sin, you are the servant of God. And you can�t serve or have two masters. When you have sin as your master, you hate God, and when you have God as your master, you hate sin.
It is a mystery to me why professing Christians want to plead for sin and reckon themselves alive to sin when the Bible tells us that those who are converted have � past tense � �been freed from sin� (Ro 6:18 NASB, Ro 6:22 NASB) and that we are to �reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin� (Ro 6:11).
If that is the case in Romans 6, why does Paul say �Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof� (Rom 6:12)?
My friend, if you have not gotten free from the spirit of disobedience (Eph 2:2), you have nothing to offer the world but more of the same that you have � a �form of godliness� that is �denying the power� (2Ti 3:5) in the power of Christ.
This sin-you-must teaching which seeks to serve sin and God at the same time is �another gospel� (Gal 1:6) that is nothing more than �turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness�, which is �denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ� (Jud 1:4).
�Repent ye� (Mat 3:2) and �bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance� (Mat 3:8).
Summary: Punishment for sin is DEATH. But we should daily die for our sins and live a holy life. Because those who are commiting sins, cannt be converted! For example if you sleep with your lover for a few years and go to a Church, do you think if you will die you will get to the Kingdom of Heaven? No. Those who are forgiven of their sins, are those who ABANDONED their sins.
Christians cannt sin, they are constantly refined of sins like GOLD to be prepared to enter a prepared place for prepared people- the Kingdom of Heaven!
more quotes of a christian church Jew hating father
Posted : 17 May, 2011 03:53 AM
Brothers, God in the Bible commands men to depart from all sin, to keep God's commandments, to be holy because God is holy, and to be perfect as our Father in heaven is perfect. The Bible teaches that all men ought to live without sin and that they can live without sin by God's grace and the power of his indwelling Holy Spirit. The Bible also teaches that Christians do live without sin and overcome the world, the flesh, and the devil.
The Holy Bible is filled with promises to the believer that he can live a holy life and have victory over sin, temptation, the world, the flesh, and the devil:
Thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. Matt. 1:21
For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world. I John 5:4
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. I John 3:6.
And we know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not. I John 5:18
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. I John 3:9
Sin shall not have dominion over you; for ye are not under the law, but under grace. Rom. 6:14
I John 3:6 and 3:9 show that the Christian who remains in Christ and stands begotten of God does not and cannot commit sin!!!!!
For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world. I John 5:4
What does it mean brothers? It means that if you want to get to the New World created by God then you really should be Israel. I.e. you should belong to a group of people called the Church/Israel. They are those who believe in God Jesus. He took their sin on the cross and made them FREE of their sins. Confess your sins to God, abandon them, TURN from sin to God then when you finish your confession of sins, your name will be written in the Book of LIFE. Because God Jesus died on the cross to give you ETERNAL LIFE. Those who live in sins, did not abandon them, are NOT Christians. Some of them are prodigal sons and God is calling them back to Him to repent and come back. Those who do not want to live in a renewed life/holy life are those who are dogs and swine. Let me repeat what I said before:
If we will NOT turn to God from our sins, then we will be like swine lying in the mud pit and washing in their own mire/dung or DOGS who turn to their own vomit again and again. But if we are prodigal sons then we will wash away our vomit and RETURN to our Father.
Knowing that God Jesus is God, we abandon our sins and accept His salvation and forgiveness of our sins to live a HOLY life. Then we really are Israel and we will dwell in a New Jerusalem where God will be our LIGHT. But outside will be dogs��
more quotes of a christian church Jew hating father
Posted : 17 May, 2011 04:16 AM
Let me say it this way:
What does it mean brothers? It means that if you want to get to the New World created by God then you really should be Israel. I.e. you should belong to a group of people called the Church/Israel. They are those who believe in God Jesus. Israel was separated by God from other people who performed idol worship. Israel was a holy nation of God. Thus, you also should be a HOLY nation of God- Arabs, if you need the Kingdom of Heaven! Then in fact you will be not Arabs but Israel/Christians or those who are God�s Inheritance.
Jesus took their sin on the cross and made them FREE of their sins. You should be among them! Confess your sins to God, abandon it, TURN from sin to God then when you finish your confession of sins, your name will be written in the Book of LIFE. Because God Jesus died on the cross to give you ETERNAL LIFE. Those who live in sins, did not abandon them, are NOT Christians. Some of them are prodigal sons and God is calling them back to Him to repent and come back. Those who do not want to live in a renewed life/holy life are those who are dogs and swine. Let me repeat what I said before:
If we will NOT turn to God from our sins, then we will be like swine lying in the mud pit and washing in their own mire/dung or DOGS who turn to their own vomit again and again. But if we are prodigal sons then we will wash away our vomit and RETURN to our Father.
Knowing that God Jesus is God, we abandon our sins and accept His salvation and forgiveness of our sins to live a HOLY life. Then we really are Israel and we will dwell in a New Jerusalem where God will be our LIGHT. But outside will be dogs��
�And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name JESUS, for He will save His people from their sins.� Matt. 1:21
Are you saved from your sins to live in a NEW and RENEWED life? Are you born of God? If not then you should be born of God! Repent and MOVE your heart to God Jesus and you will get BACK home�. But outside will be dogs��
more quotes of a christian church Jew hating father
Posted : 17 May, 2011 07:33 AM
Hello Everyone ,I'm new here thank you for the invitation to join, God Bless you all. Ice Yes I have read those statements and they are Heinous, and the church has apologized for the anti-Semite, That was prevalent after the break up and separation of the Christian and Jewish sect, after hard feelings during the destruction of Jerusalem during 70Ad. Augustine as well as many others were very angry at those of Jewish Faith because they would not convert, and wrote some nasty things, that Hitler used to orchestrate the demise of the Anti-Aryan Race, along with the Serpent Seed theory, Do not expect those who do not look deeply into the history of Christianity to interject anything tangible except for sarcasm.
Students of the Protestant Reformation understand exactly what you are trying to say. I understand a lot of what you are saying. If I may sir, First of all forget about the comment used about Blacks, it is a nonsense retort from lack of understanding. When you sir believe something deeply, you do not have to attack others belief to substantiate your own, that is why they do not take as substance anything you try to present. Teach yourself how to present a fact without attacking anyone from a personal standpoint.
Try to understand the audience you are presenting your views too. Sometimes they do not understand, and feel so comfortable with what they think they know, that they are afraid to step out of their comfort zone.
I am not trying to chastise you or make a mockery of your belief, I respect you for the tenacity in which you pursue your belief. I Heard you say that some words are not in the original manuscripts, and just wanted to add there are no ORIGINALS, the manuscripts are all COPIES, over 30,000 copies as of last count.
Also let me interject that a messianic originally started as those of the Jewish Faith accepting the fact That Yeshua was the Messiah, and some Gentiles decided this was cool and joined this sect and started calling themselves Messianic which was not needed as scripture states in Romans 11;17 we are grafted in!
more quotes of a christian church Jew hating father
Posted : 17 May, 2011 09:42 AM
Martin Luther was a man. Who was not perfect. he did many good things, however,all great men have great faults.
PJ it is a fact that the reformation is of God. it was the break from the Cathlic church. They printed bible for everybody to read and said we are saved by grace not by works.
more quotes of a christian church Jew hating father
Posted : 17 May, 2011 10:59 AM
Tinyfrog, I, too, have a touch of Jew in me(dads mom). But jews are not the same everywhere. Jews from New York are nothing close to Isrealis. And lest we forget, Jews were the fathers of some of the 1st gangs in America. This is a tricky subject, though. Religion doesn't make a race, and yet Jews try hard to do it. So how can all of you rationalize hating a religion? Impossible. God calls on us to judge other religions, and recognize the falsehoods they perpetuate. But where in the Bible does it call upon us to HATE other religions? To burn their places of worship? I missed that part. I must disagree, 2. I don't think the time period matters for contextual reasons, not when speaking for God. I understand where the jews can rationalize Gods wrath. In my book, they are 1/2 right. They just put the book down early. But Martin is calling for terrorist acts in His name. That's not cool.
