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Posted : 11 May, 2011 06:35 PM

Seems alot of people have gimmicks. It is to be found in every endeavor. For instance in the horse world : Quarter horses are better, no Arabs are better, no Warm bloods are better, no Thorough bloods are better. English is the way a horse would be ridden, no it is Aussie style, no it is Western. A true performance horse is a dressage horse, no it is a reining cow horse, no it is a jumper, no it is a three day eventer....

....well you get my point, so what does that have to do with this section of the forum?

It seems many have religious gimmicks : The only right way to worship is on Saturday, no it is Sunday, no it is every day. His correct name is Jesus, no it is Yeshua, no it doesn't matter. The only right way to read the Bible is in the King James, no it is the original Hebrew and Greek, no it is best to read them all. Calvinists really understand, no it is the Arminian who understands, no it is the Messianic Jew who understands.

Okay back to horses for a second; I love horses therefore appreciate all disciplines and styles of riding and all breeds of horses. Why, cause I love horses.

As for the Spiritual, I appreciate how God has individual relationships and interacts with different people different, Why? ..Cause I love God, and do my best to love people, and enjoy seeing God in them.

My real pet peeve is when religious people with religious gimmicks start spouting things that are not found in Scripture as if they were and therefore everyone else is wrong.

I think I can guarantee that if a person has a gimmick in which the think is the only correct way, they are most likely wrong.

Jesus Never said his way was the best or the only correct way. Jesus said "I am the way"

All the rest of this stuff divides.

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Posted : 12 May, 2011 05:02 AM

SongofJoy.....AMEN!!! You are sooooooooo right!

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Posted : 12 May, 2011 06:20 AM

To do away with history and not learn anything from it makes you very naive.

why is that not how Hitler came to be?

The Nazis changed history.

Church history is very important.it teaches us not to repeat the errors of the past.

It is also a way to study what God did with a different generation.

Dennis

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Posted : 12 May, 2011 09:08 AM

@sir james;



James,I understand your position,yet the translations of today are not any better than those of old.



They just might be translations of translations.

The KJV has been used by many in order to make another translation,yet those translators should have gone back to the Original Hebrew and Greek.



Give me about 6 months with the Greek,i have a rudamentary understanding of the language.

I have been meeting with someone who has been studying the Greek Scriptures for about 20 years.



I just ordered the book 'Basics of Biblical Greek' by William Mounce.

There is the Greek survival kit which contains a CD for the Basics of Greek book,

There is also a Greek vocabulary cards,

A Greek Interlinear,and oh Yes.

I have the Holy Spirit and the Word in Hebrew and Greek interlinears.



By the way,will you look up that Scripture from Psalm 37:4

you might begin to see there is a big difference when you go to the Original/pure milk of the Word.



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Posted : 12 May, 2011 09:25 AM

@songOjoy



Hello missy:



I find that ABBA has chosen to reveal who He is,and what He is like,in His son Yeshua,and He also uses His Word.



He uses His word to talk with me,then He takes His word and makes it real to me.

He uses tests,trials,circumstances,and situations to take that which i have been reading,and He puts that into action in my life.

He also uses people to speak with me.



The Word is only one way which ABBA uses to reveal Himself to me.



Please read this Verse of Scripture to see the importance of the Word of GOD.



Psalm 138:2

I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.



Remember ABBA's name is not LORD,or GOD,His name is YHWH/YAHWEH.



I hope that you will be having a Blessed and safe weekend.

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Posted : 12 May, 2011 12:26 PM

I here I believe he is as he said our father, amazing how some seem to be so in the know, but yet so far away.

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Posted : 12 May, 2011 03:10 PM

PhillipJohn and Twosparrows,



You are NOT advocating the Listening to the Holy Spirit, you are advocating IGNORING the body of Christ, and listening TO YOUR OWN PRIVATE RELIGIOUS HUNCHES.



You are telling people to be their own Pope!







You get a diagnosis of cancer from a doctor?



You get another opinion.



You need a good painter to paint the inside or your home?



You ask a couple of your friends if they know of a good painter.



You have some problem in life and it is important you fix this problem.....you ask MORE than one person what they think.





You even say, "well, two heads are better than one."





EXCEPT...........when YOU open the Bible!!



The problem is, and this WHERE I say you are even IGNORING THE HOLY SPIRIT with your attitude of making yourself your own pope and putting your private religious hunches before anything else....



THE BIBLE SAYS three times in Proverbs "there is wisdom in many counselors".



The apostle paul TELLS YOU that you NEED THE BODY OF CHRIST, and he says, "Does the hand say to the foot, I have no need of you?"





And you turn right around and say, "Uh, yeah I don't need you, you see I have my private...Uh I mean I have the Holy Spirit to guide me into the correct interpretation of every verse of Scripture....'





That is the ultimate Gimmick isn't it.......



Pretending that magically when YOU open the bible, YOU, the great YOU are infallible.





And by the way, if you say you are NOT infallible, then shouldn't you be questioning YOUR interpretation of the "Holy Spirit will guide you into all truth"???????





In Christ,



James

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Posted : 12 May, 2011 03:23 PM

Well James I would expect such a response from you, and of course as you practice putting words in the mouth of God, you also put words in the mouth of men that honor him and put him first place.



Interesting you used a diagnosis of cancer, when Jesus already answered that diagnosis, so is that your way of saying it is more prudent to follow man, in lieu of Jesus.



By the way James, I do follow those that follow Christ, not those that follow the arm of the flesh.



In the new testament the Holy Spirit is man's guide if you need input from man he will guide in that area, but he is man's guide thru the word of God, not man.

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Posted : 12 May, 2011 03:31 PM

Question"s for James?



Who is it that consul ed you to say a christian is a blockhead on this forum?



Who said it is correct to tell lies about a christian on this forum?



Who was it that directed you to say that a particular individual was thrown of many other forums and that the moderators probably threw him off this one.



By the way James I have first hand information that particular individual has never been contacted by anyone from this site!



I can answer the question for you if you need help!!

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Posted : 12 May, 2011 03:52 PM

Good post 2Spar...you shared ~ Jesus Never said his way was the best or the only correct way. Jesus said "I am the way"



:applause:..Absolutely YES !!!...Jesus does in Truth...say this...and it is finding this very Truth...that sets us Free from the Opression of satan & his gang...:peace:...xo

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Posted : 12 May, 2011 04:18 PM

I get tired of wasting my time just to post and say: 'No that is not what I said'. What is wrong with you people?

No I never said do away with Church History. It is just that the Catholic Church says Church History takes precedence over Scripture. I left the Catholic Church for that very reason.

It seems some of you are in the wrong Churches, perhaps it is time to go back to your mother; the catholic church. James you are already living in your mother's sister's house; the 'reformed' catholic church.

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