From "The Real Messiah" by MattithYah Coover, � 2009.
Hebrew Yeshua vs. Greek Jesus Nehemia Gordon
Shockingly, in contrast to the Hebrew Yeshua, the Greek Jesus fits each one of these qualifications.
1. Yahshua is Yahweh, while at the same time remaining under the authority of the Father. Jesus, in contrast, is the co-equal, second person of the Trinity. Jesus thereby opposes, both Yahshua's deity, and the truth about his humanity - that is, the echad YHWH taking the form of flesh.
2. Yahshua made atonement for the sins of the repentant, Torah-obedient seeker of truth. Jesus removes the definition of sin by his supposed nailing of the law to the cross.
3. Yahshua expounded upon the Torah, coming not to destroy, but to establish all that was written in the Tanakh (Matthew 5:17, Luke 24:27). Jesus exacts laws in direct opposition to the laws of ucwhy, as he dispenses with the Ten Words, the entirety of the Torah, and the Eternal Torah covenant; all things which even the apostle Paul affirmed could NOT Scripturally be done (see Romans 3:31 and Galations 3:15,17).
4. Yahshua verified that not one jot or tittle has passed away from the Torah (Matthew 5:18). Jesus claims authority to add to, alter, and take away from the revelation which YHWH has given in His word.
The historical facts are that the Man, Yahshua, or Yeshua of Nazareth, walked this earth 2,000 years ago as the embodiment of the Divine Messiah YHWH, but no one called "Jesus Christ", nor anyone who supported what "Jesus" supports ever walked this earth as any Scriptural messiah, or for that matter, as any messiah at all. The Hebrew Yeshua is found in the ancient Hebrew Scriptures; The Greek Jesus only appears in our present day translations. The Hebrew Yeshua came to uphold His Father's Torah, and establish it as eternally binding on all humanity, and if you will pursue a Torah submissive lifestyle and system of beliefs, ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES, you will find that the Greek Jesus promotes a "different gospel".
we all are shoked by such statements in the post of icebro and we do not like them.
Do not be angry as bornagaintoserve. Our sister just expressed her disagreement too. We do not know who is icebro. May be he is not a christian but we all are free to express our disagreement.
Bornagaintoserve is a nice lady and she is here not to attack us but be FREE among us and to SERVE God!!!!!! She has right to have her own opinion and she is free to express it.
Let me to remind you:
God Jesus said: those who hate people are murderers!
Do not be angry at your own brothers but pursue peace.
Because if you do not do it, it means you do not know God and His Spirit who is LOVE and PEACE!
Mat 5:7 ~" Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy."
Blessed be the Most High GOD...May the Lord Jesus be ever Mindful & Patient to give Mercy to the Childeren that give no Mercy...may He lead us into the Paths of Righteousness & Love of One Another as Bretheran...for if we do not Love our Brothers & Sisters...the Lord Jesus is surely not found in Us...May the Lord cause Reflection upon His ways & Words...Amen ! AMEN !!!...Blessings...xo
Shared ~ At least he is not like the Sheeple that believe almost everything that some guy calling himself "The pastor,or The senior pastor"says.
*** :waving:...Key Word ( Sheeple )..I remember Trucker Geroge used this word alot...To repremand & admonish the Church of GOD & the Believers in the name of JESUS & His doctrine...xo
Thank you, but the problem is that debbie is not in disagreement with much with what Ice has posted, but her remarks are in mockry and directed toward me, I', totally not stupid... discernment of spirit and tenor of a person's comments are not wihotu notice.
I am full aware of the covert efforts that are going on on this forum toward me, and although I am not angry because there is much more important things going on in the world than this foolishness to get angry about... and I will do as I say, if anymore silght underhanded remarks are mark toward me in an attempt to intimidate or harass me by posting such coy comments.
I don't bother anyone, and I don't speak out against anyone on this forum with malice, and the spirit of debbie's comments are with malice and intent to harass, and I refuse to contiue to put up with it.
I've gone the last mile, and I will report this!
Love ya Bahira, and thanks for being a comforting sister in the Lord, but I know what I'm speaking about, and if you go back over this forum to the pages, even on the second page, you will find certain comments as to harass by debbie and the others, they have been the ones to start the fights(flaming) on this forum, and then get all saved and holy when I return the fire... I will from now on do what I feel is best for me as I feel God is leading me, just as everyone says they are doing as God is leading them... I will report this in love and grace!
Tnaks Jude, & Dennis for your words... its juts getting on my last nerves that everytime there is a thread wherein a good discussion is going on, the devil will send his workers to inturpt the discussion for foolishness to trun the attention away from God's trth.
Happens everytime! And I have had my fill of this... there is a time to speak and a time to keep silence... the time has come for me to speakand wi will speak and guess what, what I speak will be heard! PRASIE GOD!
Now, as suggested let's get back to our iscussion!:glow::applause:
there is only one person in this thread who fights and it is me and against the false statements of the author published by icebro.
I do not fight against him but against false doctrines which can kill him.
We LOVE our sister bornagaintoserve! In the name of Jesus.
We love you Ella too. And we know that any hatred should be removed from our hearts to make us perfect.
Because Jesus said that no murderers will inherit the Kingdom of God. He didnt say that we are like murderers if we hate people, but we, in fact, are murderers and in this case will be JUDGED by God!!!! Judge yourself NOW to avoid the future judgment.
We should HATE our sins and correct each other in love and by LOVE.
If we do not do it, we are not Christians!!!
Be careful and do not say anything to other people except LOVE expressed in callings to BELIEVE in GOD who is LOVE and PEACE!!!!
