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What is: "The Bible"?
Posted : 10 Dec, 2019 05:04 PM

The Bible, the justice system and common sense dictates a person cannot testify on their own behalf. Therefore the Bible cannot testify on its own behalf.------------------------------ Since the New Testament did not exist at the time of its own writing, it is impossible for anything in the New Testament to testify about the New Testament. ----------------------------------- The Bible isn't a Book, but a collection of books by different authors. Therefore authors may testify for another book as long as they weren't the author of that book------------------- Where legitimate testimony exists, what is being testified to? For example Psalm 119 may testify about Torah; "the word is perfect" but that does not equate to inerrant, but rather, perfect for the job it is intended for.----------------------------

The bottom line is the Bible is a extremely valuable written record by and about the relationship with God.our physical and spiritual ancestors had. The Bible is a God inspired tool designed to bring us into relationship with the "Living Word" rather than bring us into relationship with a Paper Pope.

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Posted : 14 Dec, 2019 12:27 AM

See Chuckk, the difference in us is , you read two conflicting verses and say it must be corrupt but I look at it and say, there is an answer here, keep comparing scripture. It will be revealed. I know the Bible is true...maybe you are ready to rip out pages but don't be so quick. Trust is the key. If you keep digging, you get your answers eventually. I wonder why so many get upset for questions like yours. It can be fun.

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Posted : 14 Dec, 2019 12:50 AM

Here is a prime example Chuckk:

Y'shua preached love and expounded on the commandment to love your neighbor as yourself. He said to love each other as I have loved you.

BUT

in the scriptures, it is written by Y'shua:

Luke 14:26

If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple.

How do you reconcile these two conflicting verses ?

If you haven't given up by then you may find this:

—Matthew 10:34–37

Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person’s enemies will be those of his own household. Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

Is it clear now?

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Posted : 14 Dec, 2019 03:54 AM

KJO,

You see what you just did? Do you see your own acrobatics? No, it is not "next question please". You did not answer this one!



"The phrase "meat offered to idols" should be understood as a memorial meal for the dead that sometimes degenerates into an immoral affair."



Why then didn't the Scripture just say that? Why didn't the risen Jesus just say; "I have this against you; you partake in immoral memorial banquets for the dead" ????



You have twisted and molested the simple plain words of the Torah, the Apostles and Jesus himself just to protect Paul and your doctrines.



AND YOU REFUSE TO SEE IT!

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Posted : 14 Dec, 2019 04:02 AM

"See Chuckk, the difference in us is , you read two conflicting verses and say it must be corrupt"



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That is such BS. The truth is you automatically think everything has to harmonize, yet you have NO Scriptural proof for your doctrine of harmonization.



I on the other hand accept the conflicts in Scripture, then study to learn why they are there. There is no "corrupt" about it. - except your unsubstantiated doctrine of harmonization. Such people worship the Bible, turning it into an idol and miss out on a real relationship with God through Messiah..

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Posted : 14 Dec, 2019 05:27 AM

Acts 22:24:15: Ananias said to Paul, "The God of our ancestors has **CHOSEN YOU** to **KNOW HIS WILL** and to see the Righteous One and to hear words from His mouth. **YOU WILL BE HIS WITNESS TO ALL PEOPLE** of what you have seen and heard.



Acts 26:16-18: The Lord Jesus said to Paul, Now get up and stand on your feet. I have appeared to you and **APPOINTED YOU** AS A SERVANTAND AS A WITNESS OF WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN AND WILL SEE OF ME**! I am sending you to the Gentiles to open their eyes and turn then from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they my receive **FORGIVENESS OF SINS** and a place among those who **SANCTIFIED BY FAITH IN ME**!"



Acts 915: The Lord said to Ananias, "This man {PAUL} is **MY CHOSEN INSTRUMENT**to proclaim My name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel!"



Acts 20:27: Paul said, "For I have not hesitated to proclaim to you the **WHOLE WILL OF GOD**!"



chuckles like Satan claims the above 4 Scriptures that God inspired Luke to write are lies, thus making God a liar. These are definitely unpardonable sins which will earn chuckles eternal torment in hell.



2 Peter 3:15,16: Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our **DEAR BROTHER PAUL ALSO WROTE WITH THE WISDOM THAT GOD GAVE HIM**! He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand {For the Lost}. which IGNORANT AND UNSTABLE PEOPLE DISTORT, {Like chuckles and Satan} as they do other Scriptures to **THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION**!

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Posted : 14 Dec, 2019 09:59 AM

Chuckk,



Yes, the Gospel exists within us, because God exists within us. That's what church is. When you have God, and I have God, and others have God, and that unites us.



God, which exists within us, can interpret what is written and our understanding of it. It's also okay to have a moment when you say, "I don't know", because God knows you don't know and He will let you know when it's time for you to know.



Like we are told, we need "spiritual milk", but that's where we start, eventually we start to incorporate meat which helps us grow as we need to when that time comes.



1 Peter 2:2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:

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Posted : 14 Dec, 2019 10:43 AM

I Peter 1:23-25: You have been **BORN AGAIN THROUGH THE LIVING AND ENDURING **WORD OF GOD**!! All men are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field, the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the **WORD OF THE LORD STANDS FOREVER**. And this is the **WORD** that was preached to you.



James 1:18; He chose to give us **BIRTH THROUGH THE WORD** of Truth!!



Matthew 24:35: Jesus says, Heaven and earth will pass away, but **MY WORDS WILL NEVER PASS AWAY**!"



John 17:17: Jesus prays to His Father, "Sanctify them by the Truth, **YOUR WORD IS TRUTH**!"



Ephesians 2:17: Take the sword of the Spirit, which is the **WORD OF GOD**!



2 Timothy 3:15,16: 4:1,2: You have known the **HOLY SCRIPTURES**, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. **ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD**!! {**WHICH IS THE ENTIRE NEW COVENANT AND NEW TESTAMENT**!!}



Acts 22:24:15: Ananias said to Paul, "The God of our ancestors has **CHOSEN YOU** to **KNOW HIS WILL** and to see the Righteous One and to hear words from His mouth. **YOU WILL BE HIS WITNESS TO ALL PEOPLE** of what you have seen and heard.



Acts 26:16-18: The Lord Jesus said to Paul, Now get up and stand on your feet. I have appeared to you and **APPOINTED YOU** AS A SERVANTAND AS A WITNESS OF WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN AND WILL SEE OF ME**! I am sending you to the Gentiles to open their eyes and turn then from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they my receive **FORGIVENESS OF SINS** and a place among those who **SANCTIFIED BY FAITH IN ME**!"



Acts 915: The Lord said to Ananias, "This man {PAUL} is **MY CHOSEN INSTRUMENT**to proclaim My name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel!"



Acts 20:27: Paul said, "For I have not hesitated to proclaim to you the **WHOLE WILL OF GOD**!"



chuckles like Satan claims the above 4 Scriptures that God inspired Luke to write are lies, thus making God a liar. These are definitely unpardonable sins which will earn chuckles eternal torment in hell.



2 Peter 3:15,16: Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our **DEAR BROTHER PAUL ALSO WROTE WITH THE WISDOM THAT GOD GAVE HIM**! He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand {For the Lost}. which IGNORANT AND UNSTABLE PEOPLE DISTORT, {Like chuckles and Satan} as they do other Scriptures to **THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION**!{Which would be eternal torment in hell}

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Posted : 14 Dec, 2019 05:14 PM

True Believers don't have idols they worship God. Weak was referring to those who believe in idols and still worship them. That is what Paul was talking about when he said, it is ok to eat meet. Corinthians 8:7-9.



Paul was an Apostle called by God and his teachings were Truth.

We're under Grace anything that is good to eat is nit sinful.



If your not lead by Holy Spirit, God's not in it.

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Posted : 14 Dec, 2019 07:16 PM

Cupcake,



How do you read Revelation chapter 2 where Jesus comes to true believers and says he has this against them: "eating meat sacrificed to idols"?

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Posted : 14 Dec, 2019 07:59 PM

That had to do with pagan religious festivals that people took part in. Idolatry.

Strangling animals left some blood. It was unlawful to eat blood in meat. Jewish Law.





Believers are not under the Law.

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