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Admin	Strange Stuff Posted : 28 Apr, 2011 05:57 PM The Bible says Eve was beguiled (deceived or seduced) by the Serpent. The Bible says Satan has "seed" The Bible says the "Sons of God" (angels) took human wives The Bible says the offspring of the Sons of God and the daughters of men were Giants. � So can Satan procreate? Can fallen Angels? Has mankind�s DNA been corrupted? Are the spirits of these hybrids eternal or mortal? Post Reply
View Profile History	Strange Stuff Posted : 28 Apr, 2011 06:16 PM 2sparrow, I find this to be true your first statement about Eve being deceived by the serpent, please provide scripture passages to support your other claims that you say the Bible says... I don't ever recall reading what you have said... thanks Post Reply
View Profile History	Strange Stuff Posted : 28 Apr, 2011 08:11 PM ET, � The Bible says Satan has "seed" : Gen 3:15 (God speaking to the Serpent) "And I will put enimty...between your offspring and hers...." � The Bible says the "Sons of God" (angels) took human wives : Gen 6:2 "the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and married any of them they chose." (In the Old Testament 'sons of God' always refers to angels) � The Bible says the offspring of the Sons of God and the daughters of men were Giants � Gen 6:4 "The Nephilim were on earth in those days --- and also afterward --- when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were heros of old, men of renown." (Nephilim = Giants / Fallen Ones / Those who came down) Post Reply
View Profile History	Strange Stuff Posted : 28 Apr, 2011 08:52 PM Ummm. Why isn't Cain listed in the "written account of Adams line" in Genesis chapter 5? hmmmm...... Post Reply
View Profile History	Strange Stuff Posted : 28 Apr, 2011 08:56 PM Jude 6 "And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their own home...." Post Reply
View Profile History	Strange Stuff Posted : 28 Apr, 2011 09:05 PM Jude 6 "And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their own home --- these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgement on the great Day." 1Peter 3:19-20 "....also he went and preached to the spirits in prison who disobeyed long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built." Post Reply
View Profile History	Strange Stuff Posted : 28 Apr, 2011 09:16 PM John 8:41-44 "You are doing the things your own father does....."you are unable to hear what I say. You belong to your father the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies." Post Reply
View Profile History	Strange Stuff Posted : 28 Apr, 2011 09:21 PM Sorry 2sparrow, But there is no way possible that angels which are spirit beings can marry human beings. Genesis is not speaking about this nor is Jude. The angels in Jude is speaking about the fallen angels who left heaven with satan. The sons of God were of godly holy men who married the women of corruption, and they the holy men became corrupt. God is spekaing to the serpent(satan) that He was going to put enimity (hate and make eneimes) between those people who follow after satan, these become corrupt with the seed (which is the doctirne of demons, seed is in biblical talk for word or doctrine) and those who become the spiritual seed of Christ, and this also is what happened to Christ on the cross,a dn satan thought he had won the victory. Maybe this will help you.... Genesis Chapter 3: Verse 15 and I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed: he shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. Many scholars cannot recognize this as the great Protoevangelium of the O.T., which of course, it surely is. Their blindness is due to their failure to recognize that the key to understanding the O.T. is Jesus Christ (2 Corinthians 3:15,16). The terminology of this verse is such that it cannot apply to anything in heaven or upon earth except the long spiritual conflict between Christ and Satan. Between thee and the woman� Woman here stands for the whole of Adam's race, a point emphasized a little later in Gen. 3:20, where it is stated that Eve is the mother of all living. Enmity indicates the hostility of Satan toward humanity. God's statement here that he would put enmity cannot mean that it did not exist previously, but that it would be intensified and continued, a fact mentioned in Rev. 12:12. However, this warfare is more than Satan's campaign to destroy humanity; it also includes the warfare between: Thy seed� that is, the followers of Satan, and her seed� that is the seed of woman. Note the singular here, a ... , that is the seed of woman. Note the singular here, a characteristic continued in the pronoun he: He shall bruise thy head. Now, the only seed of woman ever known upon earth was and is Jesus Christ our Lord. Paul's statement to the effect that Christ was made to be of a woman (Galatians 4:4) implies not only the virgin birth of Christ but his pre-existence also.F18 He shall bruise thy head� is a promise of ultimate and complete victory over evil by the Lord Jesus Christ. This, of course, took place on Calvary, where Christ slew him that had power of death (Hebrews 2:14). The Charter of Redemption was achieved on the Cross, and full rewards of it will be bestowed upon the righteous at the time of the eternal Judgment. Thou shalt bruise his heel� is undoubtedly a reference to the Crucifixion. And one should not be surprised by the fact of so terrible a death being compared to a mere heel-bruise, because, the comparison is valid when contrasted with the casting of Satan into the lake of fire. SUMMARY OF THE PROTOEVANGELIUM Thus, this 27-word promise of healing for the sins of Adam's race conveyed limited information, but the significance of it is unlimited. In the light of subsequent events, it comprises as comprehensive and definite a statement of God's Plan of Redemption as could have been devised in so few words. Here is a summary of what was included: it outlines the doctrine of the Incarnation; and of the Virgin Birth; has a prophecy of the crucifixion; and of the final overthrow of Satan in hell; announces the ultimate overthrow of evil; the long agony of the human race; and provides a message of hope and salvation for fallen humanity. (See an entire chapter on this subject in my book, The Mystery of Redemption, pp. 12-21.) f Christ. Hope this will help with Genesise Chapter 6 Verses 1, 2 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the ground, and daughters were born unto them, that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all that they chose. The problem that immediately confronts us here regards the identity of the "sons of God." All efforts to identify these with angels or other supernatural creatures should be rejected. THE "SONS OF GOD" WERE NOT ANGELS The reasons why this passage cannot be applied either to angels or to other supernatural creatures are as follows: No angels have been mentioned in the Bible up to this point, and the supposition that they make their first appearance in Scripture under the title "sons of God" is untenable. The term "sons of God" is nowhere in the Bible, either in the O.T. or in the N.T., applied to angels. The passages usually cited where this expression is allegedly a reference to angels have no reference at all to angels, the word angels not even appearing in such references as Job 1:6; Daniel 3:25; and Psalms 89:6, the passages cited by Elliott.F2 In the N.T., particularly, it is human beings who are led by God's Spirit who are called "sons of God" (1 John 3:1; Rom. 8:14; Gal. 4:6, etc.). There are only two classes of angels, the holy angels, and the angels of Satan (fallen angels); and neither class could be viewed here. Holy angels would not have induced men to sin; and the fallen angels, in a million years, would never have been designated by the Holy Spirit as "the sons of God!" Note too that these "sons of God" "took them wives of all that they chose," an unmistakable reference to marriage; and Jesus our Lord flatly declared that angels do not marry (Matthew 22:30). The myth-hunters who attempt to drag mythology into this passage are contradicted by this, and we may only smile at some of the tactics of avoidance employed. Skinner, for example, after mentioning this, wrote, "But this must not be pressed."F3 Indeed, why not? We are delighted to "press it" as a complete refutation of the error of finding "angels" in this passage. If angels, or other supernatural creatures, had been to blame for the gross wickedness about to envelop mankind, then God would have announced their punishment and destruction, instead of the punishment and destruction of men. Those who would like to place the blame for human debauchery upon the supernatural creatures are frustrated by the fact that God's punishment always falls upon the guilty, and that it was men, not angels, who received the punishment here. The two classes of men visible in these verses had already been carefully introduced in Gen. 4 and Gen. 5, the sons of men (in their hardened state) being the line of the Cainites, and the "sons of God" being the people in the line of Seth. Scholars who deny the obvious unity and logical sequence of this narrative are, of course, totally unaware of this. A TYPE OF SALVATION IN CHRIST Post Reply
View Profile History	Strange Stuff Posted : 28 Apr, 2011 09:22 PM Rev 20:9 "The great dragon was hurled down--- that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth and his angels with him." Post Reply
View Profile History	Strange Stuff Posted : 28 Apr, 2011 09:30 PM Revelation is spekaign about satan and the fallen angels who followed him out of heaven into hell. and they are all cast into the lake of fire by Jesus in the end... Post Reply
View Profile History	Strange Stuff Posted : 28 Apr, 2011 09:32 PM Ezekiel 28:13-17 "You were in Eden, the garden of God......You were appointed as a guardian cherub, for so I ordained you. You were on the holy mount of God....till wickedness was found in you.....So I expelled you O guardian cherub...." Post Reply

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