I remember I was talking to my Muslim friend Ibrahim Rasheed (he knows very well the Bible) and he asked me how the earth was created. The light was in the beginning and only on the fourth day God created the sun and moon and stars.
I told him that I think (just my theory) that the Bible could say about the creation of the heavens and earth (verse 1, Genesis 1) that planets and earth were created in the beginning before the day one. And on the fourth day (it is possible) that God opened the sky and stars (moon and sun) to be seen from earth (may be sky of the earth was covered by the dust clouds before). I said that what is written in relation to the day four, could be just repeated by what was said in the verse 1.
I think that the word �heavens� (verse 1) could refer to firmaments or other planets and stars�.
Please let me know if you have thought something like that or what do you thing about it?
Bahira, I am not sure as to what you are seeking, but in Genesis verses 13-19, you will find wherein it says that God created the morning and evening, and created the sun for the day (greater light) and the moon (lesser light) and stars for the for the night. And set them into place the greater light to rule over the day(sun), and the lesser light to rule over the night (moon).
I think his argument is how can there be light before the sun was created. For there to be light first, the sun would have to be created first.
Genesis 1:3-5 (NASB)
3 Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light.
4 God saw that the light was good; and God separated the light from the darkness.
5 God called the light day, and the darkness He called night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day.
But, according to Genesis, there was light first and then the sun and moons were created on day four. According to his argument, the creation story in Genesis must be wrong, since the creation is in the wrong order. How can you have light before the sun.?
But, the Muslim friend seems to be forgetting something: God. God can easily create light without a sun. Even though we may not be able to know exactly how God created the light, we do know that He is certainly able to create it without the sun.
Thanks Cob, maybe this is what he is speaking, and what he must understand is the God HImself is the light of the world therefore, he doesn't/didn't need the light of the sun or the moon. But He created these elements for the cause of man.
thank you guys. You are right cobbler in your summary of my message and his questions. And you sister answered very correct and funny at the same time....:laugh:
Ibrahim also thinks that it was not the light of the sun....
But do you really think that in the beginning God created earth and then only universe with stars and planets?
I think it could be so...but the science does not confirm it.
Inthe beginning verse 1: heavens could be planets....
Of course we do not know anything except what God says and we accept that. I am going to ask God this question first when I will see Him personally soon....
look what i found in internet..one of the theories:
Day 4�Sun, Moon and Stars Revealed: Scientists criticize the accuracy of God supposedly creating the Sun, Moon and Stars on the fourth day. Since Genesis records God repairing the Earth, now the fourth day makes sense. On the third day, the atmosphere was still steamy and full of clouds. On day two, the ice had just been converted into water and vapor clouds. By day four, the atmosphere wasn't clear yet. Clouds still covered the Earth heavily on day three. As the floods subsided, God brought the water-loving plants back into the world, but the cloudy steamy atmosphere prevented a clear view of the celestial heavens.
Gen. 1:14-19 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the Earth: and it was so. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the Earth, And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
It doesn't match scientific evidence for the Sun and Stars to have been created after the Earth. What God did on the fourth day was to finish cleaning up the air and break up the cloud cover. The Sun, Moon and Stars were hidden up to this time because the atmosphere had become so polluted and dark by the War of the Angels. This theory matches the scientific record. The Sun came before the Earth and was not created a day after God put plants on the Earth. Gen. 1:1 states God created the heavens and the Earth. The Sun, Moon, and Stars are part of the heavens. Verse 2 is later in the timeline; it is not the beginning of a detailed commentary of Verse 1, which stands alone. God created the heavens and the Earth, period. The heavens are mentioned again in Verse 4, billions of years later than Verse 1 in the timeline. The Sun, Moon, and Stars existed before the Rebellion of Lucifer and were hidden by the darkness created by Lucifer. God cleared the air for the plants restored on day three so they could have sunshine. Biblical Hebrew is not a "tense" language: Why is the language of day four in present tense and not past tense? It doesn't read "God had made," it reads, "God made." Biblical Hebrew is not a "tense" language. Modern grammarians recognize that it is an "aspectual" language. This means that the same form of a verb can be translated as past, present, or future depending on the context and various grammatical cues. When it references the Sun and Stars, the original Hebrew does not indicate when the Sun and Stars were made, (i.e. present tense) but simply a statement that God made them to be for times and seasons and so forth. Genesis 1 is a record of God repairing the damage caused by Lucifer's war. The fourth day was the day the clouds were cleared by God so that the Sun, Moon, and Stars could be seen.
Bahira, don�t confuse empirical science with historical or forensic science. Empirical science is science that we can test and repeat on a daily basis. Historical or forensic science is not testable or repeatable. Science is not able to prove the past. The most accurate way to know the past is to read the written accounts of those who have been there and recorded the events. Since God was the only one who was there when the earth was created, his record of the event is the most accurate. Every time that science attempts to prove the Bible wrong it fails.
Theoretical science is constantly proven wrong, and what we thought was true is constantly being overturned. The word of God is always true and has never been overturned. When there are two conflicting views of how something happened, the wisest thing to do is to believe the word of God over the word of man.
Proverbs 1:7 (KJV)
7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
You might be interested in www.answersingenesis.org. They have several astrophysics on staff that have some very good insight on the interpretation of Genesis and where modern science supports it.
