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IT IS NOT IN THE BIBLE!
Posted : 19 Apr, 2011 10:15 AM

Sometimes I hear people say things that I haven't been able to find in the bible.



They'll say things about shacking up (man and woman living together, whether they're intimately involved or not). Which personally, I believe people shouldn't shack up because it's an open door for :devil:, but I don't see that in the bible. We can stretch things in the bible and make it apply, but it doesn't specifically address it, or at least I haven't found it. So please, if I'm wrong, enlighten me.



HERE'S THE MAIN QUESTION THOUGH......



They'll say for ie....God will not put more on you than you can bear.



And they kinda quote it like it's an actual scripture. Sometimes they even refer to 1 Corin 10:13, and that does not mean what they're saying it does, in my humble interpretation.



"No temptation has overtaken you but such as is common to man; and God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will provide the way of escape also, so that you will be able to endure it."





To me, that's about temptation, not trials. Unless.....hold on....



I think I may have gotten a little revelation just now....lol....maybe 1 Peter 5:10 could mean that.



"And after you have suffered a little while, the God of all grace, who has called you to his eternal glory in Christ, will himself restore, confirm, strengthen, and establish you. "



Hmmm...Idk, I think the Holy Spirit has just led me to the answer, but add your helpful thoughts, wisdom and biblical knowledge if you'd like to contribute to this post!



HAVE A GREAT DAY!!:glow:

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Posted : 19 Apr, 2011 03:21 PM

The bible says to flee from immorality, and I'm not sure if you're not doing anything immoral what the bible would say about an unmarried man and woman living together.

The bible says to abstain from the appearance of evil. No, there's no direct verse that says not to live with someone before being married, but by various scriptures in the bible one can easily grasp the concept that it's wrong.

The question is, do you have convictions about it?

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Posted : 19 Apr, 2011 03:47 PM

Another thing to consider (And this is more in a worldly sense) because most Christians don't live together...

When you move in with someone, and have sex before marriage and spend that time with that person in the same house, under the same roof, doing things that married people do...

What reason is there left to be married? You're already doing everything that married people do, only in sin, because you are supposed to be married.

Living with someone means that you don't think you have to commit to being with that person forever, it strips away stability of marriage and just leaves room for everything else.

If you live with someone they're far more likely to respect you less, because essentially they don't feel they have to, because they don't think they're accountable to God like a husband should be accountable before God for how he treats his wife.



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Posted : 19 Apr, 2011 03:47 PM

Eph 5:3 "But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality ....... for these are improper for God's holy people."

I would say "shacking up" qualifies as a "hint".

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Posted : 19 Apr, 2011 04:02 PM

Here's one that drive's me bananas



The saying "God helps those who help themselves" comes to us by various roots and across millennia. One of its earliest known expressions is from the Aesopian fable, "Hercules and the Wagoneer." Here is the text of that brief fable:



A WAGGONER was once driving a heavy load along a very muddy way. At last he came to a part of the road where the wheels sank half-way into the mire, and the more the horses pulled, the deeper sank the wheels. So the Waggoner threw down his whip, and knelt down and prayed to Hercules the Strong. "O Hercules, help me in this my hour of distress," quoth he. But Hercules appeared to him, and said:



"Tut, man, don�t sprawl there. Get up and put your shoulder to the wheel.



"THE GODS HELP THEM THAT HELP THEMSELVES."



Aesop lived from about 620�564 BC. A more contemporary provenance and one which matches the common wording identically comes to us by way of Benjamin Franklin (Poor Richard's Almanac, 1736). Franklin himself was a deist and so he believed that God did not play an active role in men's lives. In his point of view if man was not able to help himself, then man was hopeless.



The Bible teaches something entirely different than the above saying, because God makes special provision to help the helpless.



Romans 5:6, 8

For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly....But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.



Proverbs 28:26

He who trusts in his own heart is a fool,

But he who walks wisely will be delivered.



Jeremiah 17:5

Thus says the LORD,

"Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind

And makes flesh his strength,

And whose heart turns away from the LORD.

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Posted : 19 Apr, 2011 04:19 PM

We just finish with this topic...Premarital Sex...

I think First Corinthians chapter 7 clearly covers shaking-up... It is good for a man NOT TO TOUCH a woman. Nevertheless because of sexual immorality, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband.

God will not put on you more than you can bear, Matthew chapter 11: which is posted in the Bibles Study Class 101 posts, which says, Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burdens are light.

First Corinthians chapter 10 is indeed speaking about temptations, trials, and sufferings and whatever we go through that we see are hard and difficult for us to endure.

I Peter chapter 5, connects the link to enduring in First Corinthians chapter 10, God through Christ Jesus will give us grace to be steadfast because it is for His eternal glory that we be transformed into the image of His Son and know suffering as Christinas, as it strengthens our faith and trust in Him to bring us our and throughwhatever we're going through and AFTER we have suffered (endured until the end) God will make us perfect, and establish and strengthened and settle us. We will then will be set free from the pain of that temptation, trial, or suffering, we have had to endure... its a going through.

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Posted : 19 Apr, 2011 04:22 PM

One of my favorite is If You Make One Step God will Make TWO!:dancingp::rocknroll:

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Posted : 19 Apr, 2011 04:46 PM

MsMarvel, I get it. I'm mainly speaking about unbelievers who will want a specific scripture. I mean, I see what you're saying though. I already said I don't believe in shacking up, so that's already settled. It was just an example.



I was mainly asking about God not putting more on someone than they can bear. But yeah, thanks for your response!

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Posted : 19 Apr, 2011 04:50 PM

Twosparrows, I agree, but one might say...well we're not involved intimately. We have no interest in one another. And maybe that's true. I was just hoping there was a more specific scripture.



Once again, I agree with you though. I'm against shacking up. Like I said before, it gives a foothold to the :devil:

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Posted : 19 Apr, 2011 04:55 PM

Twosparrows, I know what you mean...lol....



"

Here's one that drive's me bananas. The saying "God helps those who help themselves....."



The closest thing I can think that lines up with that is ....



Faith without works is dead.



I guess it's like....if I want to be a Christian gospel artist and sing very well, and I have faith that I can accomplish that, but I don't record an album, or sing in the choir, etc., then God won't be able to bless that really.



I've heard someone that I respect dearly put it this way before:



" I make a move, then God makes a move, I make a move, then God makes a move."



Now that may not be evident in everybody's life, but it is certainly what's happened in my life.



But yes, Twosparrows, another phrase that aint in the bible!

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Posted : 19 Apr, 2011 04:57 PM

ET, thanks for your response!

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