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Admin	* The Obvious Truth that Only a Honest Calvinist would Admit * Posted : 5 Apr, 2011 04:35 PM Curious? What is the obvious truth that most Calvinists will not admit? Even though it is blatantly obvious. Although you may find a honest Calvinist who will admit this truth. They are rare, for once they reach this level of honesty, they become a endangered species. Do you think James or Ryan could be such men? Shall we find out? Here is the obvious truth that only a indoctrinated Calvinist cannot see : *Calvinism is a commentary on the Gospel* The ramifications of this simple truth should be self apparent. Post Reply
View Profile History	* The Obvious Truth that Only a Honest Calvinist would Admit * Posted : 5 Apr, 2011 04:46 PM I agree that it can be that. I will leave it at that so there is no argument. Post Reply
View Profile History	* The Obvious Truth that Only a Honest Calvinist would Admit * Posted : 5 Apr, 2011 04:54 PM *Calvinism is a commentary on the Gospel* Yea !!! Post Reply
View Profile History	* The Obvious Truth that Only a Honest Calvinist would Admit * Posted : 5 Apr, 2011 05:02 PM *Calvinism is a commentary on the Gospel* Yup. Post Reply
View Profile History	* The Obvious Truth that Only a Honest Calvinist would Admit * Posted : 5 Apr, 2011 05:04 PM Ok if it is a commentary, how is the falseness exposed? Post Reply
View Profile History	* The Obvious Truth that Only a Honest Calvinist would Admit * Posted : 5 Apr, 2011 05:26 PM PJ, that is the point, the falseness shouldn't have to be proved, the 'trueness' needs to be proved. For a commentary is just mans interpretation of Scripture. It is Not Scripture, therefore not necessarily true. Post Reply
View Profile History	* The Obvious Truth that Only a Honest Calvinist would Admit * Posted : 5 Apr, 2011 05:33 PM Well iI have to take out the not necessarily true, and call it what it is, when you look at it closely the very minimum Jesus asks of the lost, Calvinism say you can not do, thus you can become a christian, it ain't happening man's way. Post Reply
View Profile History	* The Obvious Truth that Only a Honest Calvinist would Admit * Posted : 5 Apr, 2011 05:58 PM PJ, I agree if we are talking about Calvinism, however we are talking about 'Commentaries' which may or may not be true, and even if true is always less than Scripture, For Scripture is always true. After reading many Calvinist articles a common thread starts to emerge; they go to great lengths to explain that Calvinism IS the Gospel. Of course we get pulled into this drama and forget it is only a commentary on the Gospel, a interpretation of man. How often have you asked for a scripture to back up their claim and instead you get a scripture followed by "what it means according to them". Have you noticed they have no Scripture plainly stating what they proclaim as true as Scripture. Post Reply
View Profile History	* The Obvious Truth that Only a Honest Calvinist would Admit * Posted : 5 Apr, 2011 06:01 PM Yes sir, this is my point A I always say the word of God is the truth, and then some will say I know that, but all doesn't men all, whoever is not whoever, you know what I mean. Post Reply
View Profile History	* The Obvious Truth that Only a Honest Calvinist would Admit * Posted : 5 Apr, 2011 07:50 PM Twosparrows, This does not really mean anything. EVERYONE interprets the Bible, you have no choice but to try and understand what you are reading. I guess I need to remind you again that the ONLY reason there are five points of doctrine nicknamed 'Calvinism' is because the followers of James Arminius came to the churches with five things they did not like that the churches were teaching. I would also like to point out that During the Reformation, Calvin, Luther, Zwingly, Knox, etc, disagreed on some points, but NOT on the five things the Arminians were upset about. All the protestants agreed on these basic doctrines. That is why Arminianism was formally declared heresy. I could call Arminianism a commentary, but that does not really mean anything. The five points of Arminianism are wrong. Now that is saying something. In Christ, James Post Reply
View Profile History	* The Obvious Truth that Only a Honest Calvinist would Admit * Posted : 5 Apr, 2011 10:46 PM James, There is a big difference between reading and studying the Bible asking the Holy Spirit to guide you into all truth and reading and studying the interpretations of mans commentary on the Bible. These methods of study are not mutually exclusive, however I would rather imperfectly follow the leading of the Holy Spirit than follow perfectly the interpretations of man. Post Reply

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