Author	Thread: Good and Evil
Admin	Good and Evil Posted : 17 Feb, 2011 07:10 PM A physics teacher once asked his students whether God made both good and evil. A student answered �yes�. The teacher then said that this proved that God was evil, because �by their fruit ye shall know them.� The teacher�s conclusion was then shot down with the response that: just as cold is the absence of heat, darkness is the absence of light, so evil is the absence of good. Heat, light, good, are all measurable mater, and the absence of them causes an affect: cold, darkness, evil. However, what does the Bible say? God says in Isaiah 45:7 �I formed the Light and create darkness, I make peace, and create evil, I the Lord do all these things." He created evil. Likewise, 1 John 1:5-7 says �� (5) God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. (6) If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: (7) But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.� So, I�m just wondering how these two concepts work together? God is pure, but created evil. I feel that he created both to give us the majesty of choice. But how do you explain the presence of these two factors to someone like the physics teacher mentioned above when they ask �How come he created evil, but is good?� PS. I love the Book of 1John, as John preaches against the Gnostic theory that �the deeds we do with our bodies (which are inherently evil) cannot contaminate our souls (which are inherently good)�. I like how the apostle John puts it, (1:8) �If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us�. And (1:9) �If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness�. Post Reply
View Profile History	Good and Evil Posted : 17 Feb, 2011 10:38 PM Isaiah 45:7 is misquoted, it does not say God created evil. The word used is not "evil", it is "disaster" or "calamity". Consider what Satan considers evil from his perspective, then you will understand what God considers evil from the opposite perspective. Evil is a relative term based on ones love for life or ones love for death. Your teacher wants to make evil a noun, rather than a verb. Nouns are created, verbs are actions. The very Nature of God negates God acting evil. However, those God has created and given free will may, can and do act evil. Post Reply
View Profile History	Good and Evil Posted : 17 Feb, 2011 10:53 PM disclaimer: he was not my teacher... he was a teacher. But, sparrow, I think its really true what you said. Post Reply
View Profile History	Good and Evil Posted : 17 Feb, 2011 11:03 PM One of the coolest things about God is how He can manage to bring good out of evil, it never ceases to amaze me! The Bible is full of examples and Scriptures addressing this most awesome ability of God. Post Reply
View Profile History	Good and Evil Posted : 18 Feb, 2011 03:13 AM Yeah. I guess, when it all comes out in the wash, God is God and we aren't. He is awesome! Post Reply
View Profile History	Good and Evil Posted : 18 Feb, 2011 01:08 PM Ima in 100% agreement with your reply bout satan 2Spar� You shared ~ Isaiah 45:7 is misquoted, it does not say God created evil. The word used is not "evil", it is "disaster" or "calamity". *** NO ! It is not Mis-Quoted�The Word of the LORD is� (KJV) Authorized ~ Isaiah 45:7~ I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create [ evil: ] I the LORD do all these things. (Psalm 12:6) "The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times."� *** Yall have Free Will an Choice�Ya can read Any Bible you want�It�s a Free Country�BUT�not ALL Bibles are the Inspired ( GOD Breathed ) WORD of GOD�May Yall hava a Blessed weekend�xo Post Reply
View Profile History	Good and Evil Posted : 18 Feb, 2011 02:05 PM Yeah, I think the King James version, which was written in 1611, says "evil". I really don't know enough about this topic to draw any conclusions. God bless you, Jude. Have a cool day. Post Reply
View Profile History	Good and Evil Posted : 18 Feb, 2011 03:10 PM It is time to put the King James away. You don't understand what you are reading, because you don't speak the kings English. You can even buy a dictionary for the King James language, because IT IS NOT the language you and I speak. Get an ESV, or an NAS, or even a New King James, etc. In Christ, James Post Reply
View Profile History	Good and Evil Posted : 18 Feb, 2011 03:59 PM James...Ima be as civil as possible here...Sir...you have absolutely no idea or clue the severity of what you just said... Since you are Adiment about the Reformation...You of All People here should be Defending GOD's WORD...Inspired & Written...Instead you come into the Forums and Stand on your High Horsed Soap Box Proclaiming & Defending Calvins word and Mis-Leading All the people here into thinking it does not Matter what Bible they use ???...I got news for you Sir...You have the Choice to Lead in The LORD or Deceive in satan...Please choose wisely...xo Post Reply
View Profile History	Good and Evil Posted : 18 Feb, 2011 04:23 PM One last thing James...You dont need a Re-Written Bible...You just need to Read it...and ReRead it...xo Post Reply
View Profile History	Good and Evil Posted : 18 Feb, 2011 07:01 PM Jude, Yes, "evil" is a possible meaning of the word: 'ra' depending on sentence structure and context. In this particular verse I believe to translate ra as "evil" is not the best rendering. You do not have to be a Bible Scholar to see in this sentence that light is contrasted with dark, then peace is contrasted with..? (evil is typically contrasted with good) calamity is also a definition of the word 'ra'. Peace contrasted with calamity fits much better. In addition, God "creating evil" is not in the context of the Bible. (just my opinion) Post Reply

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