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First question: Now no one denies man has a will, but is that will free? In other words what is the definition of free will? How would you define free will? Why do we or don't we have free will? Explain.
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I believe we have a free will. How I would define it... We make choices daily. It is our will that decides which choice we might make, whether good or bad. We have the choice to do the will of the Father by making choices that line up with His word or His will for our lives, or we do the will of ourselves, sometimes making bad choices and going against the will of God. I believe Paul struggled with this as well...
For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but [how] to perform that which is good I find not.
For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
Romans 7:15,18-19
If we didn't have the free will to make choices or decisions in life, why would we need those guidelines for living that we find in Scripture that allow us to either make good choices by being obedient to them or willingly ignore them and live contrary to those guidelines?
If anyone makes the assistance of grace depend on the humility or obedience of man and does not agree that it is a gift of grace itself that we are obedient and humble, he contradicts the Apostle who says, "What have you that you did not receive?" (1 Cor. 4:7), and, "But by the grace of God I am what I am" (1 Cor. 15:10). If anyone affirms that we can form any right opinion or make any right choice which relates to the salvation of eternal life, or that we can be saved by assent to the preaching of the gospel through our natural powers without the effectual work of the Holy Spirit, who makes all whom He calls gladly and willingly assent to and believe in the truth, he is led astray from the plain teaching of Scripture by exalting the natural ability of man, and does not understand the voice of God who says in the Gospel, "For apart from me you can do nothing" (John 15:5), and the word of the Apostle, "Not that we are competent of ourselves to claim anything as coming from us; our competence is from God" (2 Cor. 3:5).
God gave man a choice in Eden. He knew what they would choose, no doubt, but He still gave them the choice. He knew what they were doing it as they did it, but He still called to them and asked what they had done. And He planned Calvary before Adam and Eve tasted the forbidden fruit.
Still, He gave them a choice. That choice is "free will". Did He WANT them to sin? NO. Did He put a stumbling block in their way to compel them to sin? NO. Was it His ultimate plan that they sin? No. If any of these were the case, He would have been an accomplice to sin, and He, as God, cannot sin or cause others to sin because that would be to participate in sin.
I don't believe that every bad thing that happens to people is God's fault. I don't think He ordains children to be molested or people to be abused. Murder is not His plan, nor is any other ungodly thing. Yet because man made the choice He did in Eden, sin is in the world. And man makes those choices for good or evil daily and hourly still. That's free will. God has ultimate control, and can stop someone from sinning, yes. However, for reasons beyond my understanding, He doesn't stop the sin often. Instead He chooses to work His good through it and in spite of it. That doesn't mean He is not omniscient or omnipotent. It means that His omniscience and omnipotence are even greater than the evil in the world. When things are without form and void and darkness is on them, God moves, and God creates.
It is a good question, and I think that Mankind obviously has a will, but to put the word "free" in front of it, is just going way too far!
If you think of it as a graph, or line, with a perfectly free will, on one end, and a robot on the other, we humans are somewhere in the middle.
There are all kinds of Scriptures that SAY that we do NOT have a free will.
Didn't Jesus say that we slaves to Satan OR to God?
Joh 12:37-41 But though he had done so many miracles before them, yet they believed not on him: That the saying of Esaias the prophet might be fulfilled, which he spake, Lord, who hath believed our report? and to whom hath the arm of the Lord been revealed? Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again, He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them. These things said Esaias, when he saw his glory, and spake of him.
And what about what Paul says here:
1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Yes, we have a will, but a perfectly free will????
James do you know that scriptures, you try to build opinion's with do not agree with your point. scripture is truth and the bible is full of scripture indicating man's ability to choose or to refuse, but you did expose the real problem with the scripture you posted.
MOST PEOPLE say that they believe in �free will.� Do you have any idea what that means? I believe that you will find a great deal of superstition on this subject. The will is saluted as the grand power of the human soul which is completely free to direct our lives. But from what is it free? And what is its power?
THE MYTH OF CIRCUMSTANTIAL FREEDOM
No one denies that man has a will � that is, a faculty of choosing what he wishes to say, do, and think. But have you ever reflected on the pitiful weakness of your will? Though you have the ability to make a decision, you do not have the power to carry out your purpose. Will may devise a course of action, but will has no power to execute its intention.
Joseph�s brothers hated him. They sold him to be a slave. But God used their actions to make him a ruler over themselves. They chose their course of action to harm Joseph. But God in His power directed events for Joseph�s good. He said, �But as for you, ye thought evil against me; but God meant it unto good� (Gen 50:20).
And how many of your decisions are miserably thwarted? You may choose to be a millionaire, but God�s providence is likely to prevent it. You may decide to be a scholar, but bad health, an unstable home, or lack of finances may frustrate your will. You choose to go on a vacation, but an automobile accident may send you to the hospital instead.
By saying that your will is free, we certainly do not mean that it determines the course of your life. You did not choose the sickness, sorrow, war, and poverty that have spoiled your happiness. You did not choose to have enemies. If man�s will is so potent, why not choose to live on and on? But you must die. The major factors which shape your life cannot thank your will. You did not select your social status, color, intelligence, etc.
Any sober reflection on your experience will produce the conclusion, �A man�s heart deviseth his way: but THE LORD DIRECTETH his steps� (Prov 16:9). Rather than extolling the human will, we ought to humbly praise the Lord whose purposes shape our lives. As Jeremiah confessed, �O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps� (Jer 10:23).
Yes, you may choose what you want, and you may plan what you will do; but your will is not free to accomplish anything contrary to the purposes of God. Neither have you any power to reach your goals but that which God allows you. The next time you are so enamored with your own will, remember Jesus� parable about the rich man. The wealthy man said, �This I WILL do: I WILL pull down all my barns, and build greater: and there I WILL bestow all my fruits and my goods. . . But God said unto him. Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee� (Luke 12:18-21). He was free to plan but not free to accomplish; so it is with you.
THE MYTH OF ETHICAL FREEDOM
But freedom of the will is cited as an important factor in making MORAL decisions. Man�s will is said to be free to choose between good and evil. But again we must ask, from what is it free? And what is man�s will free to choose?
The will of man is his power to choose between alternatives. Your will does decide your actions from a number of options. You have the faculty to direct your own thoughts, words, and deeds. Your decisions are not formed by an outside force, but from within yourself. No man is compelled to act contrary to his will, nor forced to say what he does not wish. Your will guides your actions.
Yet this does not mean that the power to decide is free from all influence. You make choices based on your understanding, your feelings, your likes and dislikes, and your appetites. In other words, your will is not free from yourself! Your choices are determined by your own basic character. The will is not independent of your nature, but the slave of it. Your choices do not shape your character, but your character guides your choices. The will is quite partial to what you know, feel, love, and desire. You always choose on the basis of your disposition. according to the condition of your heart.
It is just for this reason that your will is NOT free to do good. Your will is the servant of your heart, and your heart is evil. �And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that EVERY imagination of the thoughts of his heart was ONLY evil CONTINUALLY� (Gen 6:5). �There is NONE that doeth good, no, not one� (Rom 3:12). No power forces man to sin contrary to his will, but the descendants of Adam are so evil that they always choose the evil.
Your decisions are molded by your understanding, and the Bible says of all men, �And their foolish heart was darkened� (Rom 1:21). Man can only be righteous when he desires to have fellowship with God, but, �There is NONE that seeketh after God� (Rom 3:11). Your appetites crave sin, and thus you cannot choose God. To choose good is contrary to human nature. If you chose to obey God, it would be the result of external compulsion. But you are free to choose and hence your choice is enslaved to your own evil nature.
If fresh meat and tossed salad were placed before a hungry lion, he would choose the flesh This is because his nature dictates the selection. It is just so with man. The will of man is free from outside force, but not from the bias of human nature. That bias is against God. Man�s power of decision are free to choose whatever the human heart dictates; therefore there is no possibility of a man choosing to please God without prior work of divine grace.
What most people mean by free will is the idea that man is by nature neutral and therefore able to choose either good or evil. This simply is not true. The human will and the whole of human nature is bent to ONLY evil CONTINUALLY Jeremiah asked, �Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots�? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil� (Jer 13:23). It is impossible. It is contrary to nature Thus do men desperately need the supernatural transformation of their natures, else their wills are enslaved to choosing evil.
In spite of the great praise that is given to �free will,� we have seen that man�s will is not free to choose a course contrary to God�s purposes nor free to act contrary to his own moral nature. Your will does not determine the events of your life nor the circumstances of it. Ethical choices are not formed by a neutral mind but always dictated by your personality makeup.
THE MYTH OF SPIRITUAL FREEDOM
Nevertheless many assert that the human will makes the ultimate choice of spiritual life or spiritual death. They say that here the will is altogether free to choose eternal life offered in Jesus Christ or to reject it. It is said that God will give a new heart to all who choose by the power of their own free will to receive Jesus Christ.
There can be no question that receiving Jesus Christ is an act of the human will. It is often called �faith.� But how do men come to willingly receive the Lord? It is usually answered, �Out of the power of their own free will.� But how can that be? Jesus is a PROPHET � to receive Him means to believe all that He says. In John 8:41-45 Jesus made it clear that you were born of Satan. This evil father hates the truth and imparted the same bias into your heart by nature. Hence said Jesus, �Because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.� How does the human will jump out of man to choose to believe what the human mind hates and denies?
Further, to receive Jesus means to embrace him as a PRIEST � that is, to employ and depend on him to sue out peace with God by sacrifice and intercession. Paul tells us that the mind with which we were born is hostile to God (Rom 8:7). How can the will escape the influence of human nature which was born with a violent enmity to God? It would be insane for the will to choose peace when every bone and drop of blood cries out for rebellion.
Then too, receiving Jesus means to welcome Him as a KING. It means choosing to obey His every command, to confess His right of rule and to worship before His throne. But the human mind, emotions, and desires all cry out, �We will not have this man to reign over us� (Luke 19:14). If my whole being hates His truth, hates His rule and hates peace with God, how can my will be responsible for receiving Jesus? How can such a sinner have faith?
It is not man�s will but God�s GRACE that must be thanked for giving a sinner a new heart. Unless God changes the heart, creates a new spirit of peace, truthfulness, and submission. man will not choose to receive Jesus Christ and eternal life in Him. A new heart must he given before a man can believe, or else the human will is hopelessly enslaved to evil human nature even in the matter of conversion. Jesus said. �Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye MUST be born again� (John 3:7). Unless you are, you will never see His kingdom.
Read John 1:12 & 13. It says that those who believe on Jesus have been �born, not of the will of man, but of God.� As your will is not responsible for your coming into this world, it is not responsible for the new birth. It is your Creator who must be thanked for your life, and if any man be in Christ, he is a new creation (II Cor 5:17). Who ever chose to be created? When Lazarus rose from the dead, he then could choose to answer the call of Christ, but he could not choose to come to life. So Paul said in Ephesians 2:5, �Even when we were dead in sins, [God] hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved).� Faith is the first act of a will made new by the Holy Spirit. Receiving Christ is an act of man just as breathing is, but God must first give life.
No wonder Martin Luther wrote a book entitled The Bondage of the Will which he considered one of his most important treatises. The will is in the chains of an evil human nature. You who extol the free will as a great force are clinging to a root of pride. Man, as fallen in sin, is utterly helpless and hopeless. The will of man offers no hope. It was the will choosing the forbidden fruit that brought us into misery. The powerful grace of God alone offers deliverance. Cast yourself upon God�s mercy for salvation. Ask for the Spirit of Grace that He may create a new spirit within you.
If you posses such free will then never sin again! You say you have it then do it!
