These that try to take scripture and make it as their foundation that man can not save himself.
There is no argument that man can not not save himself, but there is evidence that unregenerate man can respond to the word of God in his state of spiritual separation.
The word of God teaches and always has taught that they are at least two in agreement to be a partaker of covenant.
There is God's promise to man in every covenant, and the condition's man is responsible for in that covenant.
Men has the ability asked of him by a just God, and that answer, or requirement has always been faith.
Jesus discussed in the parable of the sower:
Man is expected to hear the word of God, to be careful what he hears, in other words do not receive all that he hears, make sure it agrees with the totality of scripture!!
Then he chooses to believe the scripture, we know that thru out scripture we see those that chose to believe and also those that chose not to believe.
Then in being a doer of what he hears and believes, is the man's response to what he heard and believes, is his faith.
When man lives in the light of the word of God as mentioned in this parable, it is referred to as walking with God, walking in the light of the word of God.
Here it is in the old testament:
Prov 4:18 But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day.
19 The way of the wicked is as darkness: they know not at what they stumble.
20 � My son, attend to my words; incline thine ear unto my sayings.
21 Let them not depart from thine eyes; keep them in the midst of thine heart.
22 For they are life unto those that find them, and health to all their flesh.
23 Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life.
24 Put away from thee a froward mouth, and perverse lips put far from thee.
25 Let thine eyes look right on, and let thine eyelids look straight before thee.
26 Ponder the path of thy feet, and let all thy ways be established.
Can you find mankind that pleased God in the old covenant?
I can post scripture to say murder is okay, too, but it wouldn't be in context of all of scripture. If you are right, explain how all the scriptures posted by James fit with your doctrine.
No one mentioned murder Leon but we did mention, what Jesus said in the parable of the sower, and he said it is man's choice among one thing, among other great truth's, but you also must believe what he said.
Leon would have us to believe this teaching is not true, in context we fully understand what is said.
This how the kingdom of God operates in mankind, according to the author of the word.
Would you have one believe the word of God does not giveth light?
PJ shared in the topic post : "There is no argument that man can not not save himself, but there is evidence that unregenerate man can respond to the word of God in his state of spiritual separation."
If you tweak that so say: "There is no argument that man can not not save himself, but there is evidence that unregenerate man can respond to the word of God 'when the Holy Spirit draws him' in his state of spiritual separation."
Then I am in 100% agreement.
I put forth a loving challenge right now to any who hold strictly to Calvinism to prove the above statement wrong without writing a dissertation. This is what I believe, so if I am wrong, I would like to know it.
Are you trying to tell me that only a few verses in the bible are true? If you cannot make all of them fit your opinion, you are wrong. So far, you have used the same few scriptures over and over, but can't tell us how the fit with the rest of the bible. That does not answer any questions, or even demonstrate understanding. I really want to know. If you can show me what you say is true, I will believe, but so far, all you have done is make claims. Anyone can do that. I want to know the truth, do you?
KJV Rev 3:19~ As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
20~ Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, [[[ and open the door, ]]] I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. *** Notice that the �any man� [ has the CHOICE to open the door ]�The Lord Jesus doesn�t say he Will or Wont�
21~ To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
22~ He that hath an ear, [[[ let him hear what the [ Spirit saith ] unto the churches. ]]]�
LOL. I see a lot of scripture, but not a single attempt to reconcile them to the ones posted by James. I love how it is being avoided because there is no way to do so and remain true to this doctrine.
