Thread: Slain in the Spirit:Is there any Biblical truth to this teaching
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Slain in the Spirit:Is there any Biblical truth to this teaching
Posted : 16 Oct, 2010 03:42 AM
Hello everyone: I have seen some people using this term 'Slain the Spirit' as though this is a doctrine that is to be taught as though it is Biblical truth...
I have included the Scriptures which these and others believe this is from,
Yet I cannot even begin to glean anything concerning Spiritual slaying in the Spirit.
Act 9:1 And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest,
Act 9:2 And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of this way, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem.
Act 9:3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven: Act 9:4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
Act 9:5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the goads.
Act 9:6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.
Act 9:7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.
Act 9:8 And Saul arose from the earth; and when his eyes were opened, he saw no man: but they led him by the hand, and brought him into Damascus.
Act 9:9 And he was three days without sight, and neither did eat nor drink.
Since Yeshua/Jesus,Paul nor any Biblical writers had even hinted to this;
Is it Possible that those teaching this ,that they are false teachers and false prophets?
Since we are to be Bereans and students of the Word,What is this Scripture really about..
Shalom and Chesed:
St.George
ps:I am amazed that we have the Word and a host of other things to help us to study the Word for ourselves and yet people still listen to those teaching such dribble.
Slain in the Spirit:Is there any Biblical truth to this teaching
Posted : 16 Oct, 2010 10:26 AM
George it is probably more like false believers, trying to come up with terms that one can not find in the bible and then they try and justify a bible truth.
Any believer that is ever been in the manifest glory of God would never come up with such a post.
So many say they are believers and then continually deny the truth of the word of God.
You know it is like saying there are no grandfathers, because grandfather is not used in the bible.
When you proclaim that Acts 2:4 is other than what Jesus said you will always miss God.
Slain in the Spirit:Is there any Biblical truth to this teaching
Posted : 16 Oct, 2010 10:51 AM
I dont think everything that has to do with how God touches us would be "biblical"
I get alot of revelation when I'm driving alone in my car. That's not biblical. (just an example)
there isnt any technology in the bible, but yet we learn about the Father on it. That's not biblical either.
2 Chronicles 5:14
though hands were not laid on anyone, I feel like the presence of the Lord being in the room, one could not bare to stand.
I dont need someone to lay hands on me to feel God's presence :) I do know that sometimes when I'm praying for someone, I can feel the holy spirit and my hand heats up, the person I'm praying for gets lost in what is going on inside of them, usually some type of inner healing. If I have my hand on their head or even shoulder, they may fall back. Then I just kneel down and continue praying for them. It's usually the spirit ministering to them.
Many times I will feel the Lord in worship service and the weight seems to knock me back sometimes. Whichever way the sprit is moving around in the room, sometimes moves me forwad or back just a nudge. As far as shake n bake, LOL no, but I'm not afraid of it.
IF YOUR NOT EMBARASSED BY WHAT MAY HAPPEN, ASK THE SPIRIT TO REST ON YOU (just for kicks). THEN PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR BODY. YOUR EYES MAY TWITCH, YOUR HANDS MAY SHAKE AND YOU MAY LOSE YOUR BALANCE AS YOU STAND THERE. Those are small manifestations or indicators that the Holy Spirit is upon you.
I think what happens when the person gets up from the floor is the test for what just happened. As they lay on the floor, the holy spirit is at work inside. A vision may come to that person, they could be getting set free from various things, I've seen people feel like they were on FIRE but not painful fire, just lots of heat throughout their body. Could be physical healing...
after the experience, a change has taken place inside the persons heart, mind or body.
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on the flip side, I've also seen churches where EVERYONE falls out and just pop back up like and continue life as usual.
I dont know about that...if a change hasnt occured then I'm leaning toward, THAT PROBABLY WASNT GOD.
Sometimes after I get the manifestations, it's like the Lord says: "ok, now go"--THATS when I will go pray for others or I get my own experience (vision or some type of word).
It's hard to wrap your head around it until it happens to you, but I'll be praying for you Trucker.:nahnah:
side note: sometimes even when you ARE afraid to(possibly) look like a fool, God still gets you.
You all already know I'm charismatic and you asked...I was just trying to explain from my experiences.
Slain in the Spirit:Is there any Biblical truth to this teaching
Posted : 16 Oct, 2010 11:41 AM
How can you know by feelings and experiences that it is from God when the Bible teaches to not rely on our feeling and experiences because we will be wrong. I really want to know this from you river? I could careless what PJ says, he's a false teacher.
Slain in the Spirit:Is there any Biblical truth to this teaching
Posted : 16 Oct, 2010 12:08 PM
Mr Row: your right about that, I always tell people dont say "you feel" because we shouldnt go by our feelings.
I guess it's hard to explain. I've been to churches where you know it's not God by your discernment. I know it's hard to believe because there are many "falsies" and I've seen them too and it's like...what in the heck are you doing?
I have only fell out under the spirit twice in my walk with God.
I know it was Him because when I got up, I was different.
When i was small, I went through alot of mental abuse from my mother, she was very controlling and my dad was super passive. He let her control everything and I lived in fear of her. i could never spend time with my dad because when I did, she would give both of us the silent treatment. Although my dad was in the house, he wasnt available for me during the years that were important in the development of my identity.
My mom was really abusive to me verbally, emotionally and mentally. Sometimes I used to wish she would just hitme and get it over with but her childhood was bad so, she didnt know any other way to be.
I said all that to say...the first time it happened to me, I was standing at the front of the altar and someone came by to just touch my shoulder as they went down the line and I fell back like a ton of bricks LOL when I was on the floor I began crying and I didnt know why. It came from a deep place and I couldnt stop, I was sobbing. I started to see this vision in my head(with my eyes closed) of this little girl with black hair, all I could see was the back of her. She was in this field of flowers and the sun was bright, I could tell she was happy because she was jumping around giggling. She must have been about 4 years old. When I paid closer attention, there was someone else in the vision and I got the impression it was her Father because she started to run to Him and I could tell she felt safe and loved by Him. She ran to him and then I heard her say Daddy! He kneeled and she jumped into his lap and embraced her for a long, long time.
Right at that moment I heard "i love you" and I felt such peace then I began to cry because I had never felt love like that before..right away I knew it was Father God letting me know of His love for me even as a small child.
I have never been the same, since that day I know that I know the He's with me and loves me.
How do I explain that biblically? I dont know...but I know it was God.
Slain in the Spirit:Is there any Biblical truth to this teaching
Posted : 16 Oct, 2010 12:09 PM
Hey River:
I hear you talking much about feeling,and almost no faith.
In Philadelphia we would say,Feelings follow faith,yet I see that the Pentecostals and Charismatics have this the other way around.
Eph 2:8 For by (feelings)grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Hab 2:4 Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith (feelings).
Mat 8:26 And he saith unto them, Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith (feelings)? Then he arose, and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm.
Act 6:8 And Stephen, full of faith (feelings) and power, did great wonders and miracles among the people.
Mat 13:58 And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief ( lack of feelings).
The Holy Spirit in not a feeling,He is a person.
The most unknown and grieved person in the triune Godhead,seeing that He lives within the believers forever..
If we live according to what we feel,are we living by faith?
Shalom and Chesed:St.George
ps:Just because a persons hands might become warm,this does not mean they have the Holy Spirit of GOD.
Act 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
Slain in the Spirit:Is there any Biblical truth to this teaching
Posted : 16 Oct, 2010 12:29 PM
:ROFL: you guys crack me up.
you dont have to believe me. I used to be stuck in religion too but I got set free from that bondage and I dont point or criticize others anymore....because I come to realize that I DONT know it all and I dont have it figured out.
