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mr_manners

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Acts 2:38 or Matthew 28:19....
Posted : 17 Sep, 2010 09:36 AM

I absolutely believe that a person must be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.



Do you?

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Posted : 17 Sep, 2010 11:13 AM

I think that it is necessary unless it is impossible. I'm not sure the thief on the cross was given the chance, so I don't know how necessary it is, but I think that anyone that is claiming to be a christian should follow the example of Jesus.





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Posted : 17 Sep, 2010 12:20 PM

Necessary for what

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Posted : 17 Sep, 2010 12:33 PM

Necessary for a witness to other people.



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Posted : 17 Sep, 2010 02:08 PM

I was wanting the poster's response Mark, but thank you.

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Posted : 17 Sep, 2010 04:24 PM

@ Manners:





Yeshua gives us the real witness,love not baptism.



Why are Christians so hung up on dunking a person in water,which is a one time event;when loving others is every day...



Please do not be so short sighted,see everything from the Lords understanding.



There is much more taching on loving others than going swimming.



Besides Mattew 28:18-20 is not about dunking someone under water.



John 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

John 13:35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.



Shalom and Chesed:

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Posted : 17 Sep, 2010 04:27 PM

George maybe this man believe's his post is loving one another, Gee

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Posted : 17 Sep, 2010 06:20 PM

Acts 2:34



And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man? 35Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. 36And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? 37And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. 38And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. 39And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.





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Posted : 17 Sep, 2010 06:29 PM

No, he means "ONLY" in the name of Jesus Christ, not Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

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Posted : 17 Sep, 2010 06:34 PM

We are not commanded to baptize,yet we are commanded to Love one another.







Joh 15:12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.







1Corin 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.

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Posted : 17 Sep, 2010 07:47 PM

The issue of being baptized in Jesus' name is part of what got the United Pentecostal Church started. The argument is that you must sa, "I baptize you in Jesus name" vs "I baptize you in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit (or Ghost). The Oneness doctrine believers came to believe that because the Disciples baptized in the name of Jesus that Jesus is the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. All three of them are manifestations of the same person, Jesus.



I'm not going into this and I really don't mean to start a thread on Oneness either. I'm telling you this to make a point. The fact of the matter is that there are no examples in the NT that anyone said anything when they baptized people. The command is to baptize people INTO the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit or INTO the name of Jesus. (Please check the Greek yourself) In this case name would literally mean the nature and character of the Trinity or Jesus. Baptidso is a Greek word that means to submerge something completely and leave it there like a sunken ship which, when left at the bottom of the sea eventually becomes a part of the sea and is sometimes barely distinguishable. When we are baptized into the nature and character of Jesus we are in the process of discipleship, not getting wet. We are being taught to be like Him by our leaders and with the help of these teachers the Holy Spirit makes us indistinguishable from Jesus because we reflect His nature and character not our own.



When you are reading the NT you should learn to tell whether it is talking about water baptism or not because most of the time it is not.



So while I do not agree with Oneness Doctrine as a whole I also do not agree with Trinitarians doctrine when it comes to what is said at water baptism. I think they are both wrong.



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