"If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged."
Woow ... I was reading this parable, is incredible, as Jesus defended the woman, to the "prostitute."
How many times have we judged someone by their way of being, by the way they dress, how to express themselves, by the way they act?.
The first thing we do is get away from that person, because we think we can pollute with their "bad manners" Automatically we say: the devil is controlling her or he; he or she is the devil.
We are doing a big mistake because we are not doing our job as Christians, our job is to share the gospel and make people who do not know God, be saved by His grace
Sometimes I think, that people to which we continually point out, those people who does not know God is closer to Him than ourselves, we should lead by example, because we act like sheep and we have a wolf within. It's a shame to not accept it, pretend that we are perfect, pretend that we do not have sisn and what is worse we judge others to feel worthy oourselve, This is funny! and this is sad! at the same time, because at least those who sins, those still are not sons of God, they dont know what they do, they dont know God, but what about us that we do! that we are sons and daughters of God why we are still sinning? why do not we ashamed of what we doing and what we are doing?.
John 8:2 and all the people were coming unto him, and having sat down, he was teaching them;
John 8:3 and the scribes and the Pharisees bring unto him a woman having been taken in adultery, and having set her in the midst,
John 8:4 they say to him, `Teacher, this woman was taken in the very crime--committing adultery,
John 8:5 and in the law, Moses did command us that such be stoned; thou, therefore, what dost thou say?'
John 8:6 and this they said, trying him, that they might have to accuse him. And Jesus, having stooped down, with the finger he was writing on the ground,
John 8:7 and when they continued asking him, having bent himself back, he said unto them, `The sinless of you--let him first cast the stone at her;'
John 8:8 and again having stooped down, he was writing on the ground,
John 8:9 and they having heard, and by the conscience being convicted, were going forth one by one, having begun from the elders--unto the last; and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
John 8:10 And Jesus having bent himself back, and having seen no one but the woman, said to her, `Woman, where are those--thine accusers? did no one pass sentence upon thee?'
John 8:11 and she said, `No one, Sir;' and Jesus said to her, `Neither do I pass sentence on thee; be going on, and no more sin.'
Here we se Yeshua,really is the one the Pharisees were trying to trap,not the woman.
The woman was just the bait.
According to the Law,both the woman and the man were to be stoned for bringing folly into the camp of Israel.
Lev 20:10 `And a man who committeth adultery with a man's wife--who committeth adultery with the wife of his neighbour--the adulterer and the adulteress are surely put to death. (KJV)
Maybe the man this woman was with was a Pharisee,maybe this was a club ritual(just speculating)
The Pharisee brought up the Law and Moses,(whom the Pharisees might have been trusting for Salvation).
They then asked Yeshua,what do you say about this.
If Yeshua goes against the law,the Pharisees would have stoned Him.
If Yeshua defends the woman and lets her go,(He could have said according to the law where is the man),they will stone Him,for not judging the woman to death by stoning.
Yeshua does not even answer the Pharisees,He just writes on the ground.
Many have speculated about what Yeshua wrote;
I believe I might know what He was writing on the ground.
Deut 19:15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.
Deut 19:16 If a false witness rise up against any man to testify against him that which is wrong;
Deut 19:17 Then both the men, between whom the controversy is, shall stand before the LORD, before the priests and the judges, which shall be in those days;
Deut 19:18 And the judges shall make diligent inquisition: and, behold, if the witness be a false witness, and hath testified falsely against his brother;
Deut 19:19 Then shall ye do unto him, as he had thought to have done unto his brother: so shalt thou put the evil away from among you.
Deut 19:20 And those which remain shall hear, and fear, and shall henceforth commit no more any such evil among you.
Deut 19:21 And thine eye shall not pity; but life shall go for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot. (KJV)
Yeshua then says,The sinless,or he that is without sin,cast the first stone.
Yeshua is not saying that there might have been someone that had not ever had sinned.
He is saying,whoever of you has not himself commited this sin that, this woman is being accused of,which was adultery.
Let the one that has never commited adultery,let that one throw the first stone.
They were all convicted in their hearts,why?I believe they were all guilty of this very sin themselves.
Then from the elder to the younger they all left,leaving Yeshua with the woman.
From here we see the Gracious,loving,forgiving,merciful,kind,compassionate,restoring heart of Yeshua-Ha-Messhiach/Jesus the Messiah.
A misunderstanding today,says that we are not to judge.
This is not true because we all make judgements, all day long ever day of the year.
When we judge,we should have all the evidence to be making a right judgement.
Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
Rom 13:2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
Rom 13:3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
Rom 13:4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
Rom 13:5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
We are not to be judging anyone to eternel damnation.
This alone is Gods position and authority,to judge and bring condemnation,according to his Word.
John 3:15-21
Lets us be bodly and Lovingly proclaiming the Gospel of Yeshua the Christ of God,both to those redeemed of
the Lord,and those still dead in their trespasses and sins.
Let us encourage the Believers in Yeshua,unto Love,faith and Good deeds.
While what you are saying is common now, I don't agree. I think we have misinterpreted the whole judgment thing. We have to use judgment in our daily lives, but we are not to judge others.
The scripture does not say, only judge if you are right. It is very clear.....do not judge. It even tells you the consequences if you do, you will be judged. I think this is one more example of our twisting scripture to make it say what we want. Judgment of people is God's job, but man has always wanted to be God, so we make excuses to play God.
I agree with you,that is exactly what I had written.
The judgements that I had said that we all do daily are common everyday judgements.
Is this the right way of doing this or that.
Will this new job afford me time with the Brethren,family,and others.
Is going 20 miles an hour over the speed limit on the highway such a good idea.
If one will read,I said we are not to judge unto eternal judgement,that alone is for the Lord to be doing.
Yet Spiritually we are to judge,is a person a false prophet.
Is this man calling himself The Senior Pastor(No such title or office within Scripture)is He really called and gifted of the Lord,for the task at hand.
Maybe if the Body of Christ would use Spiritual Discernment,and clean out the dead wood,maybe there might be some real life..
I misunderstood your first post. Thanks for clarifying for me. Ella is not the only one around here who has senior moments. LOL. And I am only 47, I don't want to know how bad I will be in my 60s.
Speaking about judging, Jesus teaches us in Matthew chapter 7, not to judge with malice, lest you also are judge by the same measure you have judged someone else. Of course, we don't like it when other people judge us by the same standards we have judged another person.
So what Jesus is saying is that if you have a sin or a fault you better make sure you don't standing judging someone else, and it is wrong to judge others based on your own self rightous standards in a condemning manner.
This of course, does not mean that as Christians, we are not to, nor are we never to pass judgment of any kind. But we are not to judge others motives or the reasons of another person.
This is why he says, do not judge, so that you may not be judged, for with the same measure (standard) of judgment you judge another, you will also be judge. In other words, if you are condemning another person for their sins, and you yourself are in sins, God will expose your sins, and others will judge you accordingly.
But Jesus goes on to say, first cast the beam out of your own eye (rid of your sins), then you will be able to see clearly how to cast out the mote out of your brothers/sister's eye. This means, Once you've repented and gotten rid of your own sins, THEN you will have ground to judge someone else's sin based on what God has to say about that sin.
Paul makes this very clear in Romans 2, wherein he says, you judge others who are in one kind of sin, yet you yourself are in another kind of sin, and you make excuses for your sins, and judge others becaus of their sins.This is what the Jews were doing to the Gentiles, when spiritually both groups were in sins.
But there is a righteous judgment as explained in the parable in Luke chapter 7, and according to John chpater 7, where Jesus says, do not judge according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment. Which is to say, judge without condemnation or with malice, but judge it for what it is, and not on what we THINK it is, but on what God SAYS it is.
What he is syaing, make sure you're in the right of things before you go handling out a judgment on someone else or something you know nothing about.
Paul brings this out in Romans chapter 14, saying , who are you to judge why a person does or say something, or does not do something. Just becasue you don't do it or say it, this doesn't give calls for the person to be judge according to your personal standards. In other words, I may celebrate Christmas, and you may not celebrate Christmas, this does not means You're right becasue of the reason why you don't celebrate Christmas, nor does it mean you're wrong, but don't judge or look down on me just becasue I enjoy celebrating Christmas. I'm doing it nto the Lord, and oure not, so that's between you and your God or god.
So Christians are to judge, right from wrong, good from evil, truth from a lie, but as you and Trucker both have said, we are not suppose to go around judging others falsely, which means with condmnation or malice with hatred.
Paul goes even futher telling us in I Cornthians chapters 5-6, saying, did you not know the saints of God will be judging the angels, so if we can't judge fairly here on earth in matters pretaining to us and others, how will we be able to judge the angels.
ALL judging should be based on what God has to say is right and wrong, good and evil, truth and a lie. And not on what we think based on our standards.... no where does the Bible teach that we should not judge others or their deeds, but it does teach that when we do judge, we better make sure we've got our own personal life out of sin, and on the right path.
Judge not lest you be judge... if you're judging someone based on your own personal standards you will be judged accordingly especially, if you yourself are living in a sin.
The men who brogth the woman to Jesus, judged her wrongly, they brother the woman, but not the man, plus, they themselevs were in sin. This is why Jesus told her to repnet of her sin, and go and sin no more. Yes, she was in the sin of adultery, but those who tried to make Jesus condemn her, were also in the sin of adultery, becasue they were in unbelievf of the Christ, and commented a sn of unjustic when they did not bring the man who was also in the sin of adultery...So Jesus judged them...
and yes, Trucker, you're right, we are to judge the flase prophets and teachers, this is good and evil, truth and a lie, and right and wrong judging. If we don't judge, how will we know...
Fair enough; I have no problem not judging a prostitute, alcoholic, drug addict, homosexual. BUT....this is where I draw the line: People who claim they are Christians and proudly proclaim their homosexuality. This is NOT something rare, it is getting quite common place and this is one of their favorite scriptures
