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What comes first?
Posted : 19 Apr, 2010 07:01 PM

What comes first?

False teachers or the people who wanted the false teachers.

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Posted : 19 Apr, 2010 08:04 PM

The spirit behind the false teacher and the one looking for the lie's

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Posted : 19 Apr, 2010 08:07 PM

I first say, false Teachers. Because Pride is the reason behind false teachers and that is one sin that has infected man since the beginning. we talk about that sin like it was Satan's downfall, but man did the same thing in the Garden of Eden.



But then I have to say man who wanted a false teachers, because Satan was like the first False teacher right there in the Garden!



And thus was born the estate of sin and misery......





In Christ,



James

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Posted : 19 Apr, 2010 09:45 PM

Yeah the Bible seem to be clear that it is the people first. So God so ok here you go. 2 Timothy 4 supports that thinking.



And that should tell ya a lot about the state of our country cause we sure got a lot of false teachers around the country and on TV and on the internet.

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Posted : 20 Apr, 2010 04:55 AM

People who want false teachers?



No I do not believe that.



I believe that people (including you and me) are spritually fully blind and totally lost by the consequences of our race -Adam&Eve- having eaten from the tree of knowledge of good and evil.



The false teachers are not succesful because people want them. False teachers are succesful because people think, in their blindness, they are telling the truth.

However, as soon as their eyes are opened (which only the Holy Spirit can), and see the falseness of the teachers, they turn or even run away from it.



Also I believe that God uses those who in their blindness follow false teachers for His Purpose and Glory.



And as to false teachers, it is a huge misunderstanding to think that the satan and false teachers have the ability to act beyond and outside of God�s Will. If that would be so, then God could not be considered the one and only Ruler of this universe. He could not be called Allmighty.



Fallse teachers do make the prophesies come true in the worst way that has been predicted. And many will follow.... But beyond all that there is GOD. His purpose with this world include all his creatures. Until the youngest day, eyes can still be opened. Jesus taught us: for also the latest workers will receive the same reward as those who joined in at the earliest hour.



Ooh and as to your question. I am not sure who is first. But I do know that God is the alpha and omega. That is my comfort when not knowing the right answer to your question.

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Posted : 20 Apr, 2010 08:35 AM

What comes first? False teachers or the people who wanted the false teachers ?

What comes first? The Chicken or the Egg ?

The Chicken of course...but the Chicken is without SIN...xo

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Posted : 20 Apr, 2010 08:50 AM

Chickens or any animal for that matter can not sin they only do what God programed them to do. It was man's sin that made the whole creation fall.



If the people have their face towards God a false teach would go out of business fast. When the people want their ears tickled they turn from sound doctrine raise up for themselves false teachers to tickle their itchy ears. 2 Timothy 4



It makes me sad to live in today's America where so many false teachers are making millions leading people to hell because the people want there ears tickled.

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Posted : 20 Apr, 2010 01:22 PM

Yup ! Yup ! an Yup !...Exac-a-tacly...xo

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Posted : 20 Apr, 2010 03:20 PM

Whether it is the false teacher or the ones who want to hear false teachings either one came second or third.



Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.



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Posted : 20 Apr, 2010 03:29 PM

ToG ~ Yup ! That ole Snake in the grass was jus waitin ta take the Women down inta Sin...He diffinately was 1st.

??? ~ Who is John referin to as " Ye"..? Ima havta read that so I understand who He was referin ta...xo

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Posted : 20 Apr, 2010 03:34 PM

Ok...Jesus is referin ta Abraham's seed ( generations?) and thier Sinful natures...an rejecting him ( Jesus )...WOW...heavy stuff here...Thanxs...:applause:...xo

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