As I lay there, feeling the warmth and comfort of God�s love envelope me with a peace that is beyond understanding, all my questions started to be answered. He showed me that it is more than a Gospel of grace, it is a gospel of True Love. That we can do anything, make any mistake, but if done out of love, it will not be held against us. He showed me how He had spent the last 6,000 years trying to lead us back to the innocence of the garden, when we could commune with Him. He showed me the importance of the genealogies in the Bible, and why we should pay attention to them. Everything fell into place, everything but man�s teachings. Once I could lay aside what I had been taught, everything was simple.
One of the things I had been questioning was, why did God bother to act at the tower of Babel? If you walked in the door at home and your young child told you they were building a tower to heaven, you would smile at the innocence and walk on. God did not. And why change the languages? One thing I did know, God didn�t do anything without a reason. Why not just smash them if He were that upset, why confuse all their languages? Then I saw why.
1 Now the whole earth had one language and one speech. 2 And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar, and they dwelt there. 3 Then they said to one another, "Come, let us make bricks and bake them thoroughly." They had brick for stone, and they had asphalt for mortar. 4 And they said, "Come, let us build ourselves a city, and a tower whose top is in the heavens; let us make a name for ourselves, lest we be scattered abroad over the face of the whole earth." 5 But the Lord came down to see the city and the tower which the sons of men had built. 6 And the Lord said, "Indeed the people are one and they all have one language, and this is what they begin to do; now nothing that they propose to do will be withheld from them. 7 Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another's speech." 8 So the Lord scattered them abroad from there over the face of all the earth, and they ceased building the city. 9 Therefore its name is called Babel, because there the Lord confused the language of all the earth; and from there the Lord scattered them abroad over the face of all the earth. Genesis 11 NKJV
I noticed in verse 6 for the first time why God acted. It is explained in Gen. 1:26 NKJV Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."
Like most, I was taught that Satan took this from us at the garden, but once again God showed me this was not possible. Romans 11:29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. So, God could not take back dominion, but He could take away our language. Then I started thinking about it. Adam and Eve were born adults, not children. They did not have to be taught a language, it was embedded in their DNA, if you will.
Then I tried to find out why dominion could be so important as to require an act of God. I found this in Revelation 17:12-18 NKJV 12 The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast. 13 These are of one mind, and they will give their power and authority to the beast. 14 These will make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, for He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and those who are with Him are called, chosen, and faithful." 15 Then he said to me, "The waters which you saw, where the harlot sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues. 16 And the ten horns which you saw on the beast, these will hate the harlot, make her desolate and naked, eat her flesh and burn her with fire. 17 For God has put it into their hearts to fulfill His purpose, to be of one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God are fulfilled. 18 And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth."
In verse 13, we see that the authority of the 10 kings, in unity. That could only be dominion. We also see that Jesus overcomes him in 14 with the help of His chosen ones.
We read the prophesy of this happening in Zeph. 3:9 NKJV 9 "For then I will restore to the peoples a pure language, That they all may call on the name of the Lord, To serve Him with one accord.
To restore is to give back something that someone had at some point, but does not have now.
Finally, we come to the day of Pentecost. It is estimated that there were 5,000 people there, speaking 65 different dialects of 17 languages. If you had 120 people, all talking at the same time, speaking all the different dialects, what are the odds that you not only would be beside the one speaking yours, but would also not be confused by all those others yelling in different languages? It makes more sense that it was all one language, but since they didn�t have to interpret it in their heads, they assumed it was their native language.
Now this has nothing to do with the gift of tongues or prayer tongues. Those are two separate subjects.
The bible says otherwise concerning the dominion of man.
1 � And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,
2 Being forty days tempted of the devil. And in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he afterward hungered.
3 And the devil said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, command this stone that it be made bread.
4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
5 And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.
6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.
7 If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.
8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
I believe the inspired word is true, yes without exception.
You made a very interesting statement, saying the word of God was believing Satan.
1 � And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,
2 Being forty days tempted of the devil. And in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he afterward hungered.
3 And the devil said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, command this stone that it be made bread.
4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
5 And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.
6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.
7 If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.
8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
9 And he brought him to Jerusalem, and set him on a pinnacle of the temple, and said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down from hence:
10 For it is written, He shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee:
11 And in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.
12 And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
13 And when the devil had ended all the temptation, he departed from him for a season.
Question how was this occurrence a temptation if it is not true?
Do you really not know that the Bible has many examples of people lying written in it?We are supposed to turn our brains on when reading it. That will stop much of the misinterpretation. Or do you teach the things Job's friends were saying,as if they were true as well? I have heard Pastors do it.
This subject is getting boring. Maybe Walter will give me something for thought. He is usually good for an hour or two of good debate.
The answer is the word of God breathed by the holy Ghost says that Jesus was tempted of the devil, if that statement is not true, then the word of God is not true!!
I believe the word as it is declared, Adam turned it over to Satan in his Disobedience.
I am aware of the lies recorded in Job, but we are talking about Jesus being tempted of Satan as it is recorded in the word.
PJ...I believe Leon is sharein what he has learned in the process of being called to the Lord Jesus...An this is part of his testimony as to what he learned an questioned...
It does bring Glory to GOD that he is seekin an sharein.
The scripture you have quoted is awesome...I will suggest you let us all know which Bible translation/book/chapter/verse you are quoteing...Luv ya brothers...xo
I noticed in verse 6 for the first time why God acted. It is explained in Gen. 1:26 NKJV Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."
Like most, I was taught that Satan took this from us at the garden, but once again God showed me this was not possible. Romans 11:29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. So, God could not take back dominion, but He could take away our language. Then I started thinking about it. Adam and Eve were born adults, not children. They did not have to be taught a language, it was embedded in their DNA, if you will.
Then I tried to find out why dominion could be so important as to require an act of God. I found this in Revelation 17:12-18 NKJV 12 The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast. 13 These are of one mind, and they will give their power and authority to the beast. 14 These will make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, for He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and those who are with Him are called, chosen, and faithful." 15 Then he said to me, "The waters which you saw, where the harlot sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues. 16 And the ten horns which you saw on the beast, these will hate the harlot, make her desolate and naked, eat her flesh and burn her with fire. 17 For God has put it into their hearts to fulfill His purpose, to be of one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God are fulfilled. 18 And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth."
Leon said God showed him, mankind did not lose dominion,
How does God show you something contrary to his word?
PJ ~ yer gettin off track here...Leon wasnt seekin debate only ta share what GOD showed him, Him personaly in accordance to his understandin an Ima purty sure he is still researchin this...As you have pulled from another book for you were led to...Leon is bein lead also...an all be lead in accordance with the Holy Spirit...Praise GOD...xo
