Author	Thread: Where do you draw the line?
stormcountry33 View Profile History	Where do you draw the line? Posted : 26 Mar, 2010 02:12 PM Thinking about Cattle's situation and the battle that he is facing with this site or perhaps some individuals on this site I'm curious on where you draw the line. By that I mean, where do you draw the line when someone says something that goes strongly against with what you believe. I think as Christians we have the desire to stand up for the Word of God but with so many variations in the understanding of the Word of God how can we "debate" with others what the Word really says without coming across hateful or insulting. I mean, if I don't agree with something someone says, they could take it as an insult to their intelligence. I know that the purposeful use of derogatory comments is not appropriate but where to you draw the line in defending what you believe to be true and yet being considerate of others' feelings. One thing that I think the church has done too much of lately is being tolerant of worldly things and ideas. I don't think that tolerance to a misguided thought on the Word of God is a good thing, so again...where do you draw the line? God Bless!! Post Reply
View Profile History	Where do you draw the line? Posted : 26 Mar, 2010 03:06 PM when i read something someone wrote that I do not agree with I just leave it. You know why? Because the majority of the people that post here are not looking for answers, they are looking for an arguement. I see them as bullies to be honest. I am reminded of the Scribes and Pharisees sometimes because they were so stuck in their "religion" they couldnt see that they were persecuting truth. I imagine a horse with blinders on... We cannot give scriptures because they have their own interpretations, so where I draw the line is...if someone is truly looking for help or if I can feel the person is misguided, or if there is something I can add, I will come and try to help out. other than that, i just leave it be. Post Reply
View Profile History	Where do you draw the line? Posted : 26 Mar, 2010 06:22 PM TOG made an excellent point in the "shocking conversation in the chatroom" thread that should be taken into account by every bible believing christian. the bible is not made up of dogma. its is a story of God and his people. it wasn't meant to cause hostile segregation, it wasn't meant to provoke religion. it is simply an account of God's character. i cannot see how the need to "draw lines" is so readily needed when the whole purpose of this book is to show by example and mold us into the beings that God sent the second adam (Jesus) to procure. if someone disagrees, fine! if someone knows so much, good for them. we are just human beings 'saved' by ingesting the food that God himself has set before us (his word). i fail to see the need to draw any lines where belief is concerned ...:: oooh, that statement "we the church". hmm, not going to say anything about that. but i will say this "work out your OWN salvation with fear and trembling" [Phil 2:12] nyanda (scratches head) p.s maybe i should read it again. Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	Where do you draw the line? Posted : 26 Mar, 2010 06:28 PM The line should be when someone starts questioning your own personal beliefs instead of using the forums as a place to share what they believe. There's no reason for too much fighting on here...people should be able to discuss and share their convictions without getting attacked just because someone else believes differently. Now I'm sure there's a place in a friendly discussion to disagree, but I guess that's the key...try to be friendly. There's also a place for correction when something is completely off base. But...I guess it's all about sharing your conviction in the nicest and humblest way possible. When you want to say "You're wrong"....say "I believe you're wrong". You know. Change it from a "definite", into your personal opinion...and then present what "you believe" is your supporting evidence. It should be more about your own faith, and not necessarily proving other people wrong. It seems like the problems arise when people don't give any room for error...somehow implying that they have all the answers when they're human just like everyone else. Anyway...I know I do/have done it too. I'm not claiming innocence or anything, and we're all hypocrites to some degree...but I think there definitely needs to be a line for us all to get some humble pie every once in awhile. It should be "Here's what I believe", instead of "Let me show you where you're wrong". They both do the same thing...one is just a lot nicer. :peace::peace: :peace::peace: Post Reply
View Profile History	Where do you draw the line? Posted : 26 Mar, 2010 07:17 PM quotes from hit; "The line should be when someone starts questioning your own personal beliefs instead of using the forums as a place to share what they believe." -- what's wrong with questioning someone's beliefs? i could see if it were, attacking someone because of their belief tho. "It should be more about your own faith, and not necessarily proving other people wrong." -- absolutely, i think that's the secret to life actually... "It seems like the problems arise when people don't give any room for error...somehow implying that they have all the answers when they're human just like everyone else." -- it's called pride brother... "I think there definitely needs to be a line for us all to get some humble pie every once in awhile." -- i think i see the line he was talking about now. in that case, i'd draw the line when somebody proves unyielding. i had this minor situation where someone kept responding with these patronizing one liners after i agreed with them. sheeesh, talk about annoying! i made my stance clear and Kept.It.Moving.:dunce: nyanda:purpleangel: Post Reply
View Profile History	Where do you draw the line? Posted : 26 Mar, 2010 08:36 PM Yes, but the one liners can be right or wrong, relative to the heart of the hearer. All believers, first responsibility is to judge their own heart and attitude of their heart. When a believer walks in love their response will be different!! Just Saying. Post Reply
SOS4EMAILFRIEND View Profile History	Where do you draw the line? Posted : 27 Mar, 2010 03:15 AM Drawing the line means making a difference between "us" and "them" Debating is a very good thing but it is not about winning nor convincing. It is about sharing opinions and views. The golden rule here is mutual respect. Drawing the line as a church is even worse as people who are seeking the Truth of the Lord, have nowhere to go but to church. If that church draws a line in a judgemental way, excluding those who do not "fit in", that church actually contributes to prevent them from hearing God�s Truth which is rather the opposite of their function. Knowledge and understanding of bible issues is very good but "teaching" others that they are rather ignorant is not a wise thing to do. I feel that people often consider themselves beloved representatives of God Himself and therefore have this tremendous need to "crusade" when they meet someone with different or opposite views. If you cannot learn from someone because you know more or better. Perfect. If you want to show this however, go according to the etiquette. There exists a way of how christians should treat eachother. Post Reply
View Profile History	Where do you draw the line? Posted : 28 Mar, 2010 12:05 AM In my opinion, the "line" has mostly to do with each individual's integrity. We are all different, so our lines are in different places. Personally, I will allow a certain amount of disrespect (turn the other cheek), but when I have attempted to be nice, or have a civil conversation, or whatever the scenario, and my boundaries are continually pushed and challenged, that's where my line is drawn and it's not allowed to be crossed anymore. I would hope that my friends here think I'm a pretty gentle and loving person, but I do have boundaries and when they are challenged I will stand up for what I believe in. This makes me think of these lyrics: "You've got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything." Post Reply
View Profile History	Where do you draw the line? Posted : 28 Mar, 2010 08:57 AM When pride comes in and what is said is not in love we should speak up. Divsion hurts the whole body.A friend told me you can be right but the way you say it makes the right thing wrong. It needs to be said in love.That is the key.Dennis Post Reply
GraceMae View Profile History	Where do you draw the line? Posted : 28 Mar, 2010 01:46 PM Thanks Storm.... I agree with all the replies here.... sharing perspective about scripture in love, and open to hearing others hearts about what we feel, not preaching to one another, but as said before... speaking in love and with respect. As for drawing lines.... you all that know me, know how I respond most times... I'm out, I just read and pray. I'm sorry all this latest stuff has happened. But, I know that God can do much from this latest episode, as we allow Him to work this out to His good. :angel: ~GM Post Reply
View Profile History	Where do you draw the line? Posted : 28 Mar, 2010 10:43 PM When the issue becomes right or wrong then the purpose of the forum is lost. We should be sharing things that strengthen each other and not be critical. It's ok to disagree but it's not ok to be offensive. We all have different experiences that support our beliefs and we often have good reason to believe what we believe. If we can't play nice then we need to get out of the sandbox. :peace: Thunder Post Reply

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