Author	Thread: Who is the Second Witness?
Admin	Who is the Second Witness? Posted : 17 Mar, 2010 10:23 AM Hi Everyone, There has been lots of speculation regarding who will be the Two Witnesses described in Revelation in the last days who will bring plagues upon the Earth for 3.5 years. Most scholars agree that Elijah is one but the 2nd one has been up for debate. Let me share with you something that I believes gives us a really good indication who this 2nd man is. Rev 10:1 I saw still another mighty angel coming down from heaven, clothed with a cloud. And a rainbow was on his head, his face was like the sun, and his feet like pillars of fire. 2 He had a little book open in his hand. And he set his right foot on the sea and his left foot on the land, 3 and cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roars. When he cried out, seven thunders uttered their voices. 4 Now when the seven thunders uttered their voices, I was about to write; but I heard a voice from heaven saying to me, "Seal up the things which the seven thunders uttered, and do not write them." 5 The angel whom I saw standing on the sea and on the land raised up his hand to heaven 6 and swore by Him who lives forever and ever, who created heaven and the things that are in it, the earth and the things that are in it, and the sea and the things that are in it, that there should be delay no longer, 7 but in the days of the sounding of the seventh angel, when he is about to sound, the mystery of God would be finished, as He declared to His servants the prophets. 8 Then the voice which I heard from heaven spoke to me again and said, "Go, take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel who stands on the sea and on the earth." 9 So I went to the angel and said to him, "Give me the little book." And he said to me, "Take and eat it; and it will make your stomach bitter, but it will be as sweet as honey in your mouth." 10 Then I took the little book out of the angel's hand and ate it, and it was as sweet as honey in my mouth. But when I had eaten it, my stomach became bitter. 11 And he said to me, "You must prophesy AGAIN about many peoples, nations, tongues, and kings." NKJV Notice how John was told that he was going to prophesy AGAIN to many peoples and also kings. From the time John wrote Revelation which was at the end of his life...John never did this.....as yet. This is something that John still has to fulfill. I believe this is a very good indication that John may in fact be the second Witness. Consider this. John was also the only Apostle that was not martyred. He was believed to have died of natural causes at an old age, but no one knows for certain. There are two traditions in the Early Church Fathers. One was that John after leaving the Isle of Patmos where he wrote Revelation, died sometime after returning to Ephesus and was buried there and the other is that he was "caught up" in the same manner as Elijah. This is also interesting. The Old Testament closes with the book of Malachi in which Elijah is prophesied to return before the "Day of the Lord". Mal 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet Before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD. Mal 4:6 And he will turn The hearts of the fathers to the children, And the hearts of the children to their fathers, Lest I come and strike the earth with a curse. NKJV In Revelation ( quoted above) we have the prophesy of John going to prophesy to many peoples and kings which he never did. We have one Old Testament Prophet and one New Testament Prophet. To me it makes a whole lot of sense and there seems to be some evidence in which to come to this belief. Blessings! Walter Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	Who is the Second Witness? Posted : 17 Mar, 2010 12:40 PM Don't think it really has much to do with specific people...I think it's just a symbol/prophecy of the bible. "Two witnesses". Law and the Prophets. Commandments of God and the testimony of Jesus. Could be wrong though...Revelation is supposedly "sealed" until the time of the end. I guess discovering the mysteries in that book is kinda like "resurrecting" John to speak to us again. :peace::peace: Post Reply
View Profile History	Who is the Second Witness? Posted : 17 Mar, 2010 05:13 PM dear walter, thats a right interisting take on it.. as youve studied revelations more than me .. thanks for your take on it.. ole cattle Post Reply
View Profile History	Who is the Second Witness? Posted : 17 Mar, 2010 06:02 PM Since Enoch was translated and did not die like Elijah I have always favored him.He walked with god.:glow: Post Reply
View Profile History	Who is the Second Witness? Posted : 17 Mar, 2010 10:08 PM Hi Dennis, Yes some speculate it is Enoch for that very reason. However there is not evidence of him being an end time prophet/ witness. We do seem to have evidence that it is John by the mere fact he was given a prophecy that he has yet to fulfill. Blessings! Walter Post Reply
View Profile History	Who is the Second Witness? Posted : 17 Mar, 2010 10:12 PM Hi Mark, While Revelation does use symbolic language throughout, it is also literal at times. The Two witnesses are real people who will bring real plagues upon the Earth for 3.5 years and then be killed and then resurrected in front of the world. The book was not sealed , merely certain information to be revealed at the end and most likely by the two prophets/witnesses. Blessings! Walter Post Reply
klmartin62 View Profile History	Who is the Second Witness? Posted : 17 Mar, 2010 10:58 PM Walter, That is very interesting.I had never heard that before. It may well prove to be a true revelation from God. I can see nothing wrong with your logic. I always leaned more toward Moses and Elijah because they were the ones who appeared on the mount of transfiguration. Great job, Leon Post Reply
View Profile History	Who is the Second Witness? Posted : 17 Mar, 2010 11:12 PM Hi Leon, Well i cannot take credit for it as my Pastor pointed it out and after examining the evidence I had to agree with him and discovered another friend of mine believes the same thing. By the way...how are you feeling? It's good to see you posting again. Blessings! Walter Post Reply
View Profile History	Who is the Second Witness? Posted : 18 Mar, 2010 08:29 AM Hi Cattle, Yes it is interesting and I think makes a lot of sense. Time will tell and it may be in our time that this happens. Blessings! Walter Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	Who is the Second Witness? Posted : 18 Mar, 2010 11:00 AM Well...just don't get too excited about meeting some 3000 year old guys...because I don't think that's going to happen. Revelation is confusing and I'd say it's hard to tell exactly when it's being literal or symbolic. Who decides that again? And how do you kill Elijah and John? Especially since John has already died once? :peace::peace: Post Reply
View Profile History	Who is the Second Witness? Posted : 18 Mar, 2010 05:46 PM ok, Walter what prophcey did John not fulfill? Verse please.Dennis Post Reply

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