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Admin	The Loadicean Church Posted : 28 Feb, 2010 06:05 AM It's not something that is talked about very much today in bible discussions but it is very disturbing to Our Lord Jesus Christ.. Jesus Himself rebukes this End Time Church of God, calling it the "Laodicean Church" generation and age --the FINAL prophesied Church era to appear in the world, shortly before His second coming! He declared: "To the angel of the Church in Laodicea write: These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness [because they are not faithful and true], the ruler of God's creation. I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot I wish you were either one or the other! So, because you are LUKEWARM -- neither hot nor cold -- I am about to SPIT YOU OUT OF MY MOUTH. You say, 'I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.' But you do not realize that you are WRETCHED, PITIFUL, POOR, BLIND AND NAKED. I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire,{tribulation} so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on your eyes, so you can see. Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline. So BE IN EARNEST AND REPENT. Here I stand at the door and knock. If ANYONE [He is appealing to individuals, not entire church groups, but one by one to individual persons, one by one] hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me. To him who overcomes, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I overcame and sat down with my Father on his throne. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches" (Rev.3:14-22). Notice! This account describes the vast, whole, ENTIRE REMNANT CHURCH OF GOD! It is the LAST GENERATION! It is spiritually blind and naked, but thinks it is rich and very spiritual, proud of its supposed "knowledge," but really pitiful in God's sight It is so far removed from the ways and true paths of God, that Christ is not even INSIDE this "Church" --He is pictured as standing OUTSIDE "looking in" -- KNOCKING ON THE DOOR, hoping that someone, at least a "few," may open the door and let him into their own individual homes!Jeremiah prophesied of the flagrant End-Time rebellion that would occur within the very Church of God at the close of the age, before the coming of the Messiah. He was inspired to write: " A horrible and shocking thing has happened in the land: The prophets prophesy lies, the priests rule by their own authority [pretending it is "God's Authority"!], and my people LOVE IT THIS WAY. But what will you do in the end?" (Jer.5:30-31). Thousands today put their trust in "Church authority." They believe smugly that their church is "the ONLY Church of God." They confidently trust their ministry never to mislead them. They think to themselves, "If there is wrong in the Church, God will correct it in due time. I don't have to worry about it God would never let the ministry go astray, or lead us astray. Why, after all, this is God's own Church! " Jeremiah prophesied that people would make that very boast, during the End Time! He wrote: "This is what the LORD Almighty , the God of Israel, says: Reform your ways and your actions, and I will let you live in this place. Do not trust in deceptive words and say, 'This is the temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord! ' If you REALL Y change your ways and your actions and deal with each other justly, if you do not oppress the alien, the fatherless or the widow and do not shed innocent blood in this place, and if you do not follow other gods, to your own harm, then I will let you live in this place, in the land I gave your forefathers for ever and ever. But look, you are TRUSTING IN DECEPTIVE WORDS that are worthless" (Jer.7:3-8). Paul gave us a similar warning. He declared, "Now the Spirit clearly says that in later times some will ABANDON the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through HYPOCRITICAL LIARS, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot irons" (I Tim. 4: 1-2). The Greek word for liars or lies, as used in this verse, is pseudologos -- and this is the only place it is used in the New Testament The usual word for "lies" is pseudos. But this is talking about "lying words," or speech in the context of hypocrisy -- something which conveys the subtlety of very cunning lies and deceptions, something beyond just normal run-of-the-mill "lies." To assume that you are protected from Satan's deceptions just because you are a physical P ART of the Church, is a dangerous assumption! Adam and Eve may have assumed that they were in no danger, because they were right in Paradise --the Garden of Eden! But the serpent's cunning still caught Eve off her guard, and she was deceived rather easily and quickly! God warns us, "Let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall" (I Cor.l0:12). Post Reply
klmartin62 View Profile History	The Loadicean Church Posted : 1 Mar, 2010 09:26 AM Very interesting. I touched on the seven churches being church ages in Bible College, but it was only a two year course, so we didn't really get into it. I do remember that the concept created as many questions as it answered, so I didn't pay much attention. I wish that I had, so I could answer you more intelligently I see the comparisons you are drawing and they are what you would expect. Look at some of the things being taught in our churches. We were warned that it would be so. One of the studies I am doing now involves the three earth ages, are you familiar with this? It is fascinating, and answers many questions we have about the bible. I will not steal you thread, just thought you might have studied it. Anyway, it teaches that we have all the way through the millennium reign to win people over, then Satan will be released for the last time to test those who had never been tested. ThenSatan and all of his followers are thrown in the pit of fire. It is interesting to think that we might have all that time to help win over family members and others. One of the things that got my attention on this was, it sounds like God. Blessings, Leon Post Reply
View Profile History	The Loadicean Church Posted : 1 Mar, 2010 11:15 AM Hi Guys, I don't believe that the Seven letter were about different "Church Ages" as some teach. These were literal churches at that time. Now I do believe that various Christians can fall within those "categories" of those letters. Blessings! Walter Post Reply
klmartin62 View Profile History	The Loadicean Church Posted : 1 Mar, 2010 01:37 PM Hey Walter, I believe pretty much as you on this issue. I just wished I knew more so I could discuss it with him. You know how it is, at the time we were being fed so much that you had to edit.Things that would not appear on a test, or things that did not fit your theology, you blew off for later study. I have just never gotten back to this one. Blessings, Leon Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	The Loadicean Church Posted : 2 Mar, 2010 02:07 PM .....that's about what I believe beefcake, nice job. Revelation is all about prophecy....prophecy that's hidden from people without ears. 'He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.'" "Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand." I don't think 'He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches" was put after every church description if it was supposed to be literal. And Leon....that would be a happy thought...but I don't believe it's true....sorry. Nobody gets a second chance after death. I don't know what you're studying that gives you that idea...but I wouldn't mind seeing a post about it. :peace::peace: Post Reply
klmartin62 View Profile History	The Loadicean Church Posted : 2 Mar, 2010 04:17 PM Mark, It would take too long to post it all here. It is a complete theology If you have satellite or directv, you can catch a preacher that teaches it every day a total of 15 hours a day. It is a very interesting theology. I am a bible student and probably always will be, so I love studying this type of stuff. Blessings, Leon Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	The Loadicean Church Posted : 2 Mar, 2010 09:48 PM Ok...but if you're right, then it makes everything unfair...and God isn't unfair. Because the bible says that the "rest of the dead lived not again until the 1000 years is finished". So only the unsaved people that are alive at the second coming get a second chance? :peace::peace: Post Reply
klmartin62 View Profile History	The Loadicean Church Posted : 3 Mar, 2010 06:52 AM Mark, Sorry, my bad. No one gets a second chance. If you were taught the true Gospel and still would not believe, you are done, no more chances. However this Pastor believes that few churches know the truth and fewer still teach it, so everyone has to be given a chance to believe. By the way, I don't buy into all of this theology, but there are parts of it that make a lot of scriptures open up with real meaning. Be blessed, Leon Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	The Loadicean Church Posted : 3 Mar, 2010 08:21 AM Well, I agree with you there....but that happens before and during the tribulation. God calls His people "out of Babylon" and into a remnant church. There will be a polarizing among Christians. Those that follow "the beast's" false Christianity, and those that follow the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus. It should be obvious who is following God at the end...because the whole world will be persecuting God's people for a time....and the false church will be wandering after something that does great "signs and wonders"....be it a false prophet, a false Christ, or Satan himself as a "angel of light". But when Jesus comes again....that is the only time that people are given "in-corruption, immortality, and crowns of righteousness". I've never read anything in the bible that we get to convince people of the truth later...and who would need to? Jesus just came in the clouds with hoards of angels. "Every eye" saw Him....and only the true followers were taken. If we tried to convince anyone after all that...it would be like "if you believe this I'll give you a million bucks". It would require absolutely no faith on the part of the "unconvinced" or whatever they're called. Of course they're going to believe the truth then... :peace::peace Post Reply
klmartin62 View Profile History	The Loadicean Church Posted : 3 Mar, 2010 08:34 AM LOL. Mark, You just reminded me of another Instructor we had. He used to tell everyone, "There will be no unbelievers.....in Hell!!" LOL. I have not been studying this guys theology for long, so I am probably butchering it. Please bear with me. He says there is no other reason for the 1000 year reign of Christ and the release of Satan again if this is not true. He sayss God does not do anything without a reason. (Which I also believe, but I am not ready to say this is the reason). Anyway, he is a good teacher and his theology is never boring. I have really enjoyed listening to him. Blessings, Leon Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	The Loadicean Church Posted : 3 Mar, 2010 05:11 PM The 1000 year reign in heaven is to "judge angels" and the wicked. That's why the resurrection of the wicked is not until after the 1000 years. The righteous take part in the judgment to vindicate God. Satan will be left alive and alone during that time with no one to tempt....wandering around his failed attempt at rule...looking at the destruction and waste his "better plan" brought. It will be the worst punishment an ego as large as his could ever receive. After the judgment of the wicked God creates a new earth and the saved are no longer in "heaven". We inherit the world with Christ when the judgment is over. :peace::peace: Post Reply

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