Author	Thread: jeremiah 10 1-5
Admin	jeremiah 10 1-5 Posted : 5 Feb, 2010 03:12 PM This says that christmas trees are not to be put up in our homes. Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	jeremiah 10 1-5 Posted : 5 Feb, 2010 03:50 PM Depends on whether or not you're going to worship the tree...that verse is talking about making idols to worship. I don't think they had Christmas when that was written...but it's all about your attitude. God created trees...just don't worship them. :peace::peace: Post Reply
View Profile History	jeremiah 10 1-5 Posted : 5 Feb, 2010 08:02 PM well you need to do some research my friend...look up where christmas originated...look as far back as you can find...it will shock you...and regardless of how it is celebrated today it is still the same pagan ritual as before..."Let no man spoil you through philosophy and vein deceit after the traditions of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after massiah. Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	jeremiah 10 1-5 Posted : 6 Feb, 2010 09:36 AM True, but I do not celebrate it as a pagan holiday:goofball:. I don't even celebrate it as a christian holiday. It's just like the 4th of July with a pine tree and presents.:rocknroll: This is what could be referred to as the freedom Paul was talking about. If believe you have to have the circumcision of the flesh to be right in God's eyes, then do it. If you believe you are spiritually circumcised, then you don't need the physical. It's your attitude. There is nothing biblically wrong with setting up a beautiful tree as long as you don't worship it. There is nothing biblically wrong with giving gifts or receiving gifts unless you're selfish about it, and there's nothing biblically wrong with doing those things on the 25th of December. I've read the bible and I believe there is nothing wrong with pine trees in the house, so I am free. If you believe it is wrong, don't do it...but don't try to hold it over my head, because the bible doesn't say we shouldn't have plants in our house. Church steeples are pagan. Wedding rings are pagan. The days of the week are pagan. If you really want to start picking out everything that is pagan and avoiding it...be my guest, lol...you'll be at it awhile. It depends on your belief and your attitude. If you place pagan significance on it...you should avoid it. If you refrain from placing pagan significance on it, and if you refrain from participating/believing in the things that are biblically wrong with it...then I don't see a problem. That's what I believe. Happy Sabbath!:laugh: :peace::peace: Post Reply
View Profile History	jeremiah 10 1-5 Posted : 6 Feb, 2010 03:14 PM I'm gonna have to agree with DontHitThatMark on this one. As he said... "I've read the bible and I believe there is nothing wrong with pine trees in the house, so I am free. If you believe it is wrong, don't do it...but don't try to hold it over my head..." What HE does and what YOU (Seek_The_Truth) are two independent actions and you are both independently responsible for them. Let's say that I decide to commit a sin. In the end... YOU don't have to answer for it... I do. It works the other way around. When I read the Bible... I get the impression that I'm not supposed to hold those types of things over peoples heads. "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." Like DontHitThatMark said... if you think it's wrong... by all means, don't do it, because YOU will answer for YOUR actions in the end. If we think there's no problem with it... then we will continue to celebrate it, and WE will answer for OUR actions as well. Hope this helps, man. Love and Peace! In Christ Garrett Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	jeremiah 10 1-5 Posted : 6 Feb, 2010 11:27 PM Love and peace?? Like..."This world is made of love and peace"? That love and peace?? Like...the "Humanoid Typhoon" love and peace??? :laugh: Awesome. :peace::peace: Post Reply
View Profile History	jeremiah 10 1-5 Posted : 7 Feb, 2010 05:19 PM each person needs to make their plan of salvation.The months of the year are all named after roman ceasars and roman gods. Do we disolve the calender then? I hope not.The church has been using it for almost 2,000 years. What about the planets? Do we change there names too? Take the scripture for what it is meant for friends. Paul said he who lives by the law dies by the law. grace sent us free so we are not condemned by the law but saved by grace. I hope this helps all of us see the truth. Dennis Post Reply
View Profile History	jeremiah 10 1-5 Posted : 7 Feb, 2010 10:22 PM dear folks, aint nuttin wrong with worshiping and giving praise to GOD for JESUS any day of the year.. and the family fellowship is always awesome.. and the food wow .. and the giving of thanks for the food and the family fellowship and thanks be to GOD for JESUS.. i dont know bout yawl but i sure aint bowed down and worshipped no tree .. any tree hehe.. ole cattle Post Reply
View Profile History	jeremiah 10 1-5 Posted : 8 Feb, 2010 10:35 AM Hi Everyone, This is certainly one of those controversial issues. Here is a passage that is interesting to ponder. Jer 10:1 Hear the word which the LORD speaks to you, O house of Israel. 2 Thus says the LORD: "Do not learn the way of the Gentiles; Do not be dismayed at the signs of heaven, For the Gentiles are dismayed at them. 3 For the customs of the peoples are futile; For one cuts a tree from the forest, The work of the hands of the workman, with the ax. 4 They decorate it with silver and gold; They fasten it with nails and hammers So that it will not topple. 5 They are upright, like a palm tree, And they cannot speak; They must be carried, Because they cannot go by themselves. Do not be afraid of them, For they cannot do evil, Nor can they do any good." 6 Inasmuch as there is none like You, O LORD (You are great, and Your name is great in might), 7 Who would not fear You, O King of the nations? For this is Your rightful due. For among all the wise men of the nations, And in all their kingdoms, There is none like You. 8 But they are altogether dull-hearted and foolish; A wooden idol is a worthless doctrine. 9 Silver is beaten into plates; It is brought from Tarshish, And gold from Uphaz, The work of the craftsman And of the hands of the metalsmith; Blue and purple are their clothing; They are all the work of skillful men. 10 But the LORD is the true God; He is the living God and the everlasting King. At His wrath the earth will tremble, And the nations will not be able to endure His indignation. 11 Thus you shall say to them: "The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth shall perish from the earth and from under these heavens." 12 He has made the earth by His power, He has established the world by His wisdom, And has stretched out the heavens at His discretion. 13 When He utters His voice, There is a multitude of waters in the heavens: "And He causes the vapors to ascend from the ends of the earth. He makes lightning for the rain, He brings the wind out of His treasuries." 14 Everyone is dull-hearted, without knowledge; Every metalsmith is put to shame by an image; For his molded image is falsehood, And there is no breath in them. 15 They are futile, a work of errors; In the time of their punishment they shall perish. NKJV I wonder if we have become so accustomed with traditional things that we are desensitized to God's Holiness and moral principles. Have we forsaken God's holiness for the sake of traditions? Are we more concerned with what people think of us that we are unwilling to reject Pagan customs? Consider Santa Claus, truly intended to take away from the birth of Christ. He is a false god, an idol. Do you lie to your children and grandchildren and tell them he is real? Do you allow them to partake in this? Do you think for one second that God is pleased with this and do you think this "custom" will continue in Christ's Kingdom? Does not God say in His written word that He HATES a liar? That it is an abomination?! Proverbs 6:16 These six things the LORD hates, Yes, seven are an abomination to Him: 17 A proud look, A LYING TONGUE, Hands that shed innocent blood, 18 A heart that devises wicked plans, Feet that are swift in running to evil, 19 A false witness who speaks lies, And one who sows discord among brethren. What about "Easter". It is a Pagan worship of a false fertility goddess "Ishtar" . As Christians we celebrate "The Resurrection" of Christ, not a fertility goddess or bunny rabbits. We should not have anything to do with any traditions that are clearly linked to paganism. IMO. Blessings! Walter Post Reply
klmartin62 View Profile History	jeremiah 10 1-5 Posted : 8 Feb, 2010 04:01 PM The answer lies in the next couple of verses. Jer 10:5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good. Jer 10:6 Forasmuch as there is none like unto thee, O LORD; thou art great, and thy name is great in might. Jer 10:7 Who would not fear thee, O King of nations? for to thee doth it appertain: forasmuch as among all the wise men of the nations, and in all their kingdoms, there is none like unto thee. Jer 10:8 But they are altogether brutish and foolish: the stock is a doctrine of vanities. We need not fear a god made by man, only our God can actually do anything. God is trying to give us knowledge. He is telling us that He is the only true God. Blessings, Leon Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	jeremiah 10 1-5 Posted : 8 Feb, 2010 04:15 PM Well...my parents raised all of their kids with "the truth about Santa" and the truth about the pagan side of these holidays...it's still all about the attitude in my opinion. I believe I am under liberty, as long as I don't place pagan significance on stuff. Anyway, read Romans 14 and 1 Corinthians 8. If you guys want me to stop celebrating Christmas, I will...but lets talk about Sunday if you want to talk about pagan roots:laugh:. I'll stop celebrating Christmas if you guys go to church on Saturday. We'll trade "weaknesses"!:laugh: So...I'ma stop talkin' now:angel:. :peace::peace: Post Reply

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